TheCountOfNowhere Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 David Cameron to promise 200,000 'starter homes http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34460822 AreTheShiresCrashing @ShiresCrashing 3m 3 minutes ago http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34460822 … "David Cameron to promise 200,000 'starter homes'" ...with prices supported by HTB/QE/0.5% IRs ? No thanks. 0 retweets0 favorites Reply Retweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 The price of the "starter homes" after the discount is applied will be capped at £250,000 and £450,000 in London. Am I the only person who can't believe what they are witnessing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl1 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Need less people. How about stop letting 700,000+ people a year in, many from dirt poor former Soviet satellites who bring nothing to the UK other then the need for housing & wage arbitrage. Reverse the damage of mass immigration through a phased repatriation scheme. Been here less then 5 years? Sorry you will have to leave in an orderly fashion. If you still want to come to the UK reapply for a Visa if you have a skill we need. Bring a £5k deposit, refundable after 5 years or when you leave. Edited October 7, 2015 by pl1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canbuywontbuy Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Funny that the Tories and Labour cheer-leaded HPI outstripping wages for 20 years, and have done all they can to prop-up house prices and continue to do so - and then they say there's a housing problem that needs fixing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I've just had to turn the TV off. Cameron, who seems to have dyed his hair today, is on about housing at the Tory conference. "Help to this, help to that" and the party faithful are lapping it up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl1 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Can't be done. EU law ........ there is one way of course. As an aside if you restrict benefits to ALL uk residents then some of these steps could be done. eg NO tax credits for any worker who has worked for less than 5 years and a contribution based unemployment benefits system (which we once had by the way). If you apply the system to everyone then it is not against EU law (see Germany and France who have contribution bases systems ...... hence the queues at Calais). Correct and correct, there is only one answer and the time fast approaches. Edited October 7, 2015 by pl1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billybong Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) It's a pretty uninspiring speech. A speech of exaggerations, delusion, pretence and disney style fantasy. Vague promises galore. Like all Conservative leaders speeches over the years yet look where the UK is now - stale fare. At the end he'll still get 10 minutes of applause from them of course. Edited October 7, 2015 by billybong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Don't forget this week's 5p charge on carrier bags achievement Dave. Edited October 7, 2015 by billybong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyres Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 If you're a family on the National Living Wage, this is where you can afford Cameron's new starter homes article here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Communities dept leaked image: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Capped at 250k. That's not a floor. It's a cap. What's the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I like how central London isn't even 'not affordable' - it's apparently on another planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Gove blustering and denying the "lamentable" number of homes built under the Conservative/LibDem coalition. Daily Politics. Edited October 7, 2015 by billybong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattW Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I'm less than 2 years away from turning 40 so by the time these houses are built I will no longer qualify for one of these new homes. Mind, I'd rather have a 1950s-70s built home anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Now Heseltine weighing in with more grandiose promises, delusion and disney style fantasy. Daily Politics. Edited October 7, 2015 by billybong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Andrew Neil just ripped Michael Gove new arsehole on BBC TV, on the subject of Tory housing policy. Neil finished with "I really enjoyed that, I hope you come back" . Edited October 7, 2015 by Bruce Banner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtickle Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Andrew Neil just ripped Michael Gove new arsehole on BBC TV, on the subject of Tory housing policy. Neil finished with "I really enjoyed that, I hope you come back" . He's great. I look forward to watching that later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Capped at 250k. That's not a floor. It's a cap. What's the problem? It's a market subsidy. You don't subsidise something if you want it to go down in price. Edited October 7, 2015 by zugzwang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 You'll like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) old holborn has interesting post on this https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/651664007238127616 Refers to this http://www.bauprojekt-allkauf.blogspot.de/ Kit for 51,900 eur, they'll get their own guys to build the thing for 73.900 (£55,000) http://www.fertighaus.de/haubis.htm?searchpreis=a75&hausnr=5853 (think thats the correct one, several similar designs...all around the same cost) Although the establishment here think 60,000 is what you spend on a conservatory... http://www.lbc.co.uk/incredibly-awkward-interview-with-natalie-bennett-105384 I'm not sure what bothered me more about that interview actually. Ferrari sneering at the Greens correct idea you can build a house for under a quarter of a million, or that moronic communist Natalie Bennett being so utterly awful she actually let him take the upper hand of the debate and failed to challenge the idea in peoples head that affordable housing is an impossibility. I find it incredible Bennett is still the leader of the Green Party. I have never heard someone as dire at debating as her. Edited October 7, 2015 by Executive Sadman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipllman Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Another nail in the coffin lid of the free market in housing that tories claim to be supporters of Is the lid sealed down forever? No, it isn't possible for the government to indefinitely over ride the market But this policy: AIUI replacing 200k of houses that were being built for affordable renting purposes with the same number that will now be built for affordable purchase Just goes to show how far they are prepared to go - further than many ever imagined The whole idea is, of course, absolutely bonkers. But it looks like it is coming anyway. Clearly the government wants more OOs and is going to throw the kitchen sink at trying to make that happen, short of allowing proper price discovery - which would surely be the only solution that worked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantnrave Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 BBC headline says Cameron is vowing an assault on poverty. Does this mean they're going to start punching beggars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 BBC headline says Cameron is vowing an assault on poverty. Does this mean they're going to start punching beggars? In the 80's didnt they just urinate on them then get the coppers to beat them up for smelling bad ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 Another nail in the coffin lid of the free market in housing that tories claim to be supporters of Is the lid sealed down forever? No, it isn't possible for the government to indefinitely over ride the market But this policy: AIUI replacing 200k of houses that were being built for affordable renting purposes with the same number that will now be built for affordable purchase Just goes to show how far they are prepared to go - further than many ever imagined The whole idea is, of course, absolutely bonkers. But it looks like it is coming anyway. Clearly the government wants more OOs banker slaves and to keep the ponzi going and is going to throw the kitchen sink at trying to make that happen, short of allowing proper price discovery - which would surely be the only solution that worked I've not seen them say "free market" for a long time....that would be obviously a lie. I am still in shock as to what the tories have done in 3 years...they are destorying peoples lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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