MarkG Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 The revelation from an internal US intelligence document that the very US-led coalition supposedly fighting ‘Islamic State’ today, knowingly created ISIS in the first place, raises troubling questions about recent government efforts to justify the expansion of state anti-terror powers. Who could have guessed? Americans created the Soviet Union by extending WWI until the Russians revolted, and Nazi Germany by allowing the Allies to demand huge reparations. Americans created Maoist China by refusing to supply weapons to Chiang Kai Chek when he was about to wipe out the Commies. Americans created al Qaeda by supporting Afghanistan against the Soviet Union. Now they've created ISIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Who could have guessed? Americans created the Soviet Union by extending WWI until the Russians revolted, and Nazi Germany by allowing the Allies to demand huge reparations. Americans created Maoist China by refusing to supply weapons to Chiang Kai Chek when he was about to wipe out the Commies. Americans created al Qaeda by supporting Afghanistan against the Soviet Union. Now they've created ISIS. You left out once pro American Ho Chi Ming and how they alienated him, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 You left out once pro American Ho Chi Ming and how they alienated him, I was thinking about that, but not sure whether refusing to tell the Frenchies to get out really counted. They weren't going to invade and fight against France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 Russia Ready To Send Paratroopers To Syria The Russian Airborne Troops are ready to assist Syria in countering terrorists, if such a task is set by Russia’s leaders, commander of the Airborne Troops Colonel-General Vladimir Shamanov told reporters on Tuesday. Russia about to get sucked in to prop up Assad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 Russian Military Forces Arrive In Syria, Set Forward Operating Base Near Damascus According to Western diplomats, a Russian expeditionary force has already arrived in Syria and set up camp in an Assad-controlled airbase. The base is said to be in area surrounding Damascus, and will serve, for all intents and purposes, as a Russian forward operating base. In the coming weeks thousands of Russian military personnel are set to touch down in Syria, including advisors, instructors, logistics personnel, technical personnel, members of the aerial protection division, and the pilots who will operate the aircraft. Russia about to get sucked into another Afghanistan and be there for years and achieve little? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Depends what they are trying to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Russian Military Forces Arrive In Syria, Set Forward Operating Base Near Damascus According to Western diplomats, a Russian expeditionary force has already arrived in Syria and set up camp in an Assad-controlled airbase. The base is said to be in area surrounding Damascus, and will serve, for all intents and purposes, as a Russian forward operating base. In the coming weeks thousands of Russian military personnel are set to touch down in Syria, including advisors, instructors, logistics personnel, technical personnel, members of the aerial protection division, and the pilots who will operate the aircraft. Russia about to get sucked into another Afghanistan and be there for years and achieve little? Hard to see how Russia could sustain an kind of operations in Syria. They would have to do some kind of deal with Turkey re air/shipping or take the long, long way around. Possibly could come in via Caspian Sea, Iran and over Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Surely we should be supporting Russia in n their aim to re-establish stable government across Syria and defeat the ISIS lunatics. Well done Putin for actually doing something; the EU never would get around to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Fighter planes the Obama administration is deploying to Turkey can't drop bombs - so are they meant for dogfights with the Russians? The Obama administration is sending a group of fighter planes to Turkey equipped with air-to-air missiles, raising concerns that the jets are really intended to battle Russian planes. Ramping up the tension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 Russia claims it is 'highly probable' ISIS are using chemical weapons in Syria after UN confirm deadly sarin gas has been detected in victims Russia have claimed it is 'highly probable' that ISIS are illegally using chemical weapons in Syria. The deadly nerve gas sarin was found in samples of victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 Blasts close to Damascus' main Shi'ite shrine kill 60 BEIRUT/AMMAN - At least 60 people were killed, including 25 Shi'ite fighters, and dozens wounded by a car bomb and two suicide bombers in a district of Damascus where Syria's holiest Shi'ite shrine is located, a monitor said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 US vows unilateral action in Syria if UN fails to act American ambassador to UN sets up potential collision course with Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 Donald Trump says 'you'll see' when asked about Syria policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 Russia faces fury at UN over Syria deaths Russia clashes with other world powers at the UN Security Council over the deaths in Syria. What we know What happens now Social media go yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 Russia denies Assad to blame for chemical attack MOSCOW/BEIRUT - Russia denies that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is to blame for a poison gas attack and says it will continue to back him, setting the Kremlin on course for its biggest diplomatic collision yet with Donald Trump's White House. At U.N. Syria meeting, U.S. warns when U.N. fails states 'compelled to act' White smoke signalled gas attack on Syrian town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 It wouldn't be the first time that the rebels/mercenaries controlled by the CIA and Mossad did a chemical attack on civilians and blamed the Syrian government troops for it. The Neocons (who are still in control of large parts of the CIA) are doing all they can to avoid that Trump and Putin get along well with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Obvious false flag is obvious. Western neocon crazies gibbering before anyone has even investigated it. Given the previous history, I would automatically assume that Terrorists/rebels set off a device in order to attract attention and pursue their agenda. Probably just waited until Syria/Russia planes were in the area and then set it off (bomb/device/mortar etc). Or possibly there was a chemical store nearby, given that the entire area is full of jihadists. Either way, it's simply absurd to think that Assad would do this. He is winning the war, has the Russian airforce on tap, and was declared free of chemical weapons by the UN in 2014. Unless he is actually insane, why would he deliberately engage in the one thing that would likely cause trouble for him? He's not stupid - by all accounts highly intelligent. This is just a repeat of the 2013 false flag, where the terrorists/rebels gassed their own people, blamed Assad and then screamed for intervention from the West. It's a joke. And the nerve of the Western powers in thinking that anyone would believe this nonsense just beggars belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC1 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, Errol said: Obvious false flag is obvious. Western neocon crazies gibbering before anyone has even investigated it. Given the previous history, I would automatically assume that Terrorists/rebels set off a device in order to attract attention and pursue their agenda. Probably just waited until Syria/Russia planes were in the area and then set it off (bomb/device/mortar etc). Or possibly there was a chemical store nearby, given that the entire area is full of jihadists. Either way, it's simply absurd to think that Assad would do this. He is winning the war, has the Russian airforce on tap, and was declared free of chemical weapons by the UN in 2014. Unless he is actually insane, why would he deliberately engage in the one thing that would likely cause trouble for him? He's not stupid - by all accounts highly intelligent. This is just a repeat of the 2013 false flag, where the terrorists/rebels gassed their own people, blamed Assad and then screamed for intervention from the West. It's a joke. And the nerve of the Western powers in thinking that anyone would believe this nonsense just beggars belief. I'm inclined to agree. Most people will think he did it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 15 minutes ago, Errol said: Obvious false flag is obvious. Western neocon crazies gibbering before anyone has even investigated it. Given the previous history, I would automatically assume that Terrorists/rebels set off a device in order to attract attention and pursue their agenda. Probably just waited until Syria/Russia planes were in the area and then set it off (bomb/device/mortar etc). Or possibly there was a chemical store nearby, given that the entire area is full of jihadists. Either way, it's simply absurd to think that Assad would do this. He is winning the war, has the Russian airforce on tap, and was declared free of chemical weapons by the UN in 2014. Unless he is actually insane, why would he deliberately engage in the one thing that would likely cause trouble for him? He's not stupid - by all accounts highly intelligent. This is just a repeat of the 2013 false flag, where the terrorists/rebels gassed their own people, blamed Assad and then screamed for intervention from the West. It's a joke. And the nerve of the Western powers in thinking that anyone would believe this nonsense just beggars belief. The Kremlin spin, right on cue. Assad is a f***ing war criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC1 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, happy_renting said: Assad is a f***ing war criminal. I sometimes wish I saw the world with black and white certainty, life would be much easier. But then things are rarely ever so simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 13 minutes ago, happy_renting said: The Kremlin spin, right on cue. Assad is a f***ing war criminal. What are you talking about? Are you saying that only the Western view is allowed and that whatever the Western powers say must be 100% truthful and correct at all times? So on this forum we are only allowed to put forward the approved Western-centric view? And is that Western-centric view not spin, or do you apply some form of amusing double standard? Remind me again who lied to the UN about Iraq (answer = the US), remind me again who lied to the UN about 'no fly zones' in Libya and then bombed things on the ground (answer = US/Western powers)? I could go on. Suffice to say that the days of anyone believing anything the Western powers say is long since passed. This current incident needs to be investigated properly and by independent people. There is currently almost no evidence to suggest who did what. Even the UN stated that there was no evidence that the chemicals came from the air. China has backed the Russian position, saying that no fingers should be pointed until an investigation has been carried out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Necons Demand Action in Syria, While Serious Questions Regarding the Chemical Attack Remain Unanswered ... 'But, thanks to social media, some serious facts have been presented, such as people receiving gas masks two days prior to the attacks and an anti-Assad reporter, writing about a chemical gas attack 24 hours in advance. How can we explain this? Personally, I think we'd be fools to believe anything ISIS or the 'moderate rebels' have to say on the matter'... 'Let's examine the timeline and what has just transpired. The war that the neocons have wanted for the past half decade in Syria, displacing Assad for a 'pro-western' leader, was just greenlit by Trump. Bannon was booted from the NSC, amidst rumors that Trump's son in law, Jared Kushner, was leaking info to the Morning Shill, Joe Scarborough. Nikkie Haley sabre rattled Russia, Syria and Iran at the UN. Trump 'changed his mind.' Rex Tillerson told Russia to 'rethink Assad.' http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-06/necons-demand-action-syria-while-serious-questions-regarding-chemical-attack-remain- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord D'arcy Pew Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 80% of the population of Syria are Sunni Muslims, the Sunni's are trying to make that figure 100% By using chemical weapons, Assad will just quicken the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 That Assad i sprepared to use chemical weapons is demonstrated by the undisputed fact that he stockpiled chemical weapons. The idea that that bombing the opposition keeps oh-so-coincidentally blowing up the opposition's inexplicably-aquired chemical weapons it-wasn't-Assad-guv-honest is risible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormymonday_2011 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 4 hours ago, happy_renting said: That Assad i sprepared to use chemical weapons is demonstrated by the undisputed fact that he stockpiled chemical weapons. The idea that that bombing the opposition keeps oh-so-coincidentally blowing up the opposition's inexplicably-aquired chemical weapons it-wasn't-Assad-guv-honest is risible. Meanwhile in Yemen a Saudi naval blockade simply starves people to death. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/05/saudi-led-naval-blockade-worsens-yemen-humanitarian-disaster Dead children are dead children. Is killing them by starvation somehow more humanitarian than killing them with chemical weapons or indeed with any other type of munition ? The whole middle east is run by scum bags. The west just happen to prefer one group of murderers while Russia supports another. Choose your side and cheer for your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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