yellerkat Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Novartis to close UK manufacturing site, research downsized Novartis is to close its manufacturing site in Horsham, West Sussex, but will retain its work in respiratory research at the site. Early reports picked up by Pharmafocus suggested the entire site would close, but Novartis has now released an official statement saying its manufacturing operations will close, while its Global Development site will only be ‘partially’ closed, with both measures taking effect over a two-year period. There are approximately 950 full-time equivalent positions on the campus of which around 330 are dedicated to respiratory research. Simply too expensive to do anything other than banking in the South East? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorJ Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 So much for embedding bioscience research in the UK. Pfizer and now Novartis leaving, which makes all Government initiatives in this area look rather pathetic. Another failure to deliver on grand promises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gardener Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 So that's 620 more lazy people in Horsham. Seems to be more and more lazy people in the South-East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200p Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Sad, but its a trend. Pfizer goes, then all the rest start to think the same. The 80/20 rule applies here. 20% of the companies control 80% of the bulk of the money. Devastating for the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Expect a surge in new coffee shops in the area. No joke, I know 3 people out of work or jobs on the line.... all of them are thinking of opening up coffee shops!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennon Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Expect a surge in new coffee shops in the area. No joke, I know 3 people out of work or jobs on the line.... all of them are thinking of opening up coffee shops!!! Who buys all this coffee! - And it's not like the price of coffee keeps going down due to competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 respiratory research breaths new life into coffee shop ghetto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Sad, but its a trend. Pfizer goes, then all the rest start to think the same. The 80/20 rule applies here. 20% of the companies control 80% of the bulk of the money. Devastating for the area. Glaxosmithkline are this month finishing off the close down of their Dartford plant . Ten years ago 4,000 people worked there and these were well paid long term jobs. Part time jobs in places like Tesco are not going to bridge the gap in peoples earnings . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200p Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Glaxosmithkline are this month finishing off the close down of their Dartford plant . Ten years ago 4,000 people worked there and these were well paid long term jobs. Part time jobs in places like Tesco are not going to bridge the gap in peoples earnings . Yes, and sadder still, when Tesco don't hire local people for managerial/the better paid positions. Although it is not on a large scale admittedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfk Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Holy sh1t what is going to be the future for any of this pharma / bioscience sector that is supposed to be our future? *double face palm* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Holy sh1t what is going to be the future for any of this pharma / bioscience sector that is supposed to be our future? It's a failed experiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clocker Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) Yes, and sadder still, when Tesco don't hire local people for managerial/the better paid positions. Tesco HR policy for senior Managers is to employ people living a long way from the stores. Average daily commute for a Tesco store manager is over 100 mile round trip ! Edited March 16, 2011 by Clocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Holy sh1t what is going to be the future for any of this pharma / bioscience sector that is supposed to be our future? *double face palm* Umm Nope problem is like so much it is part of our past not our future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 So that's 620 more lazy people in Horsham. Seems to be more and more lazy people in the South-East. You gonna answer the points I made in the thread YOU started and related to ME ? You gonna do that ? Or are you just gonna scuttle off to another thread and copy and paste your comments - instead of admitting you didn't actually bother to read what I have been saying previously ? What is it to be ? Admit you didn't really listen to what I was saying - or just tottle off like a schoolkid with their fingers in their ears ? Up to you. Fire away. In case you forgot - there is the thread again and here are my points to you. Which you have failed to even have the decency to answer. When it was a thread started by yourself with my name on it. Poor manners at the very least. HPC Thread Please point out where I stated that every person who is unemployed is lazy. Please point out where I stated that unemployment is down to laziness and nothing else. Please point out where I said that wage arbitration across different countries had nothing to do with unemployment here. Please point out where I said jobs are not harder to come by today - and those wanting them will have to work harder for them. Please point out where I said the state of our economy is not going to have an impact on employment. Please point out where I said globalisation is great and nothing bad comes of it. Please point out where I said all immigrants should be let into this country willy nilly for ever more. Please point out where I said all foreign workers are better than British ones. Please point out where I said all UK workers are lazy. Oh and finally - and please shut up. These constant infantile debates are boring. People who hear one person saying one thing they don't like - and then ignoring everything else they are saying - when they are in fact probably in broad agreement with their main points. It is actually like debating with 13 year olds. And I come to this site because the debate is usually better than that. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As for the thread subject - yes there does seem to be a bit of an exodus in certain sectors from the UK. But it's ok - we have Banking to save us !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 As for the thread subject - yes there does seem to be a bit of an exodus in certain sectors from the UK. But it's ok - we have Banking to save us !! Don't forget the royal wedding and the olympics that will both provide loads of new high paying permanent jobs... If all fails we can just permanently sell houses to each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Don't forget the royal wedding and the olympics that will both provide loads of new high paying permanent jobs... If all fails we can just permanently sell houses to each other. What do you mean 'if'? That's been the UK's main economic activity for over ten years now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Don't forget the royal wedding and the olympics that will both provide loads of new high paying permanent jobs... If all fails we can just permanently sell houses to each other. This plan cannot fail. Why didn't we try it before ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorJ Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Expect a surge in new coffee shops in the area. No joke, I know 3 people out of work or jobs on the line.... all of them are thinking of opening up coffee shops!!! In my town it seems to be card shops...the mark up is huge on cards don't you know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Novartis to close UK manufacturing site, research downsized Novartis is to close its manufacturing site in Horsham, West Sussex, but will retain its work in respiratory research at the site. Early reports picked up by Pharmafocus suggested the entire site would close, but Novartis has now released an official statement saying its manufacturing operations will close, while its Global Development site will only be 'partially' closed, with both measures taking effect over a two-year period. There are approximately 950 full-time equivalent positions on the campus of which around 330 are dedicated to respiratory research. Simply too expensive to do anything other than banking in the South East? Shocking. There are some very high skill/high value people in that operation at Horsham. 'Global' top of the tree jobs. I guess they'll end up in Switzerland at some point instead of here. Whatever Dave and Osborne think they are doing to 'rebalance' the economy stuff like this ought to bring them out in a cold sweat. If the UK can't keep Novartis here then we really will end up in the sh1t with nothing left to do except buy cr4p and sell sh1tty little executive apartments to each other. For fs Dave/Osborne/Boris get your heads out of your ar5es and look at what's happening. Bob Diamond is not the future - you're screwing this up bigger than you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 For fs Dave/Osborne/Boris get your heads out of your ar5es and look at what's happening. Bob Diamond is not the future - you're screwing this up bigger than you know. Do you honestly think this was caused by what this government has done in the last 10 months? Printing money -> increased cost of living -> manufacturing becoming uneconomic -> jobs move overseas has been the story for at least 30 years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Do you honestly think this was caused by what this government has done in the last 10 months? Printing money -> increased cost of living -> manufacturing becoming uneconomic -> jobs move overseas has been the story for at least 30 years now. Novartis (Ciba-Geigy) have been in the UK much longer than that. I agree that it started with Reagan and Thatcher and followed up with the WTO rounds as you suggest, yes. Who doesn't?? Point is Dave/Osborne have this head up their a5se notion that they're 'rebalancing' the economy by saying that they are. Companies like this would be instrumental in 'rebalancing' the economy away from banking and the City. So yes, it's a total fail that these companies are fleeing the UK at all but especially under a Tory govt. What exactly are they intending to 'rebalance' to if not high added value, high tech Pharma R&D and production? Have you seen the operations and people in Horsham? This isn't some tin shed Chinese toll manufacture. What's the use eh? Let's just shut down the entire economy outside of bankstering so we can all buy houses for 36p each. That'll work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Creation Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Who buys all this coffee! - And it's not like the price of coffee keeps going down due to competition This guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profitofdoom Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Don't forget the royal wedding and the olympics that will both provide loads of new high paying permanent jobs... Like selling mugs with Harry Hewitt on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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