SarahBell Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 On the radio today they have been talking about paying sperm donors the same as women who donate eggs. At present neither are paid but they're arguing that if women get paid for taking complex drugs, and having a surgical procedure then men should get paid for sitting with a magazine in a cupboard with a cup. It strikes me that paying for the time would be the right way of doing this. (Or arguing that a man can donate say 20 times and a woman only once... so the fees should reflect this somehow...) So how many of you would donate reproductive tissue in order to raise money (They have just upped the limit on the number of times a man can donate) And would you put the money towards your mortgage? (Just to keep it on topic a bit!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singlemalt Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Hmmm?....let me think? there's no anonymity so 16 years hence some spotty faced disgruntled teen turns up on my doorstep with 'issues' and a bunch of questions or worse yet someone like Harriet 'Hatemen' forces through legislation that means I have to pony up and contribute financially for the upbringing of these children. Oh go on then! Where do I sign up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissy_fit Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Hmmm?....let me think? there's no anonymity so 16 years hence some spotty faced disgruntled teen turns up on my doorstep with 'issues' and a bunch of questions or worse yet someone like Harriet 'Hatemen' forces through legislation that means I have to pony up and contribute financially for the upbringing of these children. Oh go on then! Where do I sign up? Yeah without the anonymity it's a complete no-no. Removing that was a major error IMO. In the spirit of Darwinism, I also think individuals who can demonstrate high genetic potential for something useful should be offered higher incentives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongeh Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I'm ginger, am I still allowed to donate or should we be phased out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 We need a way to bring this market into the 21st century. Securitisation of future 'streams' must be the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulParanoia Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I'm ginger, am I still allowed to donate or should we be phased out . I'd say gingers can donate but people with greater than 5 x income mortgages should be banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissy_fit Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I'm ginger, am I still allowed to donate or should we be phased out . I just googled Famous Ginger scientists" and Famous Ginger Engineers" and Famous Ginger Inventors". It's not looking good..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richc Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 On the radio today they have been talking about paying sperm donors the same as women who donate eggs. At present neither are paid but they're arguing that if women get paid for taking complex drugs, and having a surgical procedure then men should get paid for sitting with a magazine in a cupboard with a cup. They also said (on Radio 4 this morning) that men need to refrain from drinking alcohol or having sex for six months prior to donating -- slightly changes the equation there. I'd definitely not put the money towards a mortgage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 They also said (on Radio 4 this morning) that men need to refrain from drinking alcohol or having sex for six months prior to donating -- slightly changes the equation there. I'd definitely not put the money towards a mortgage. Is masturbation OK in that six months? Was about to add what about if you are married and considering it, then I realised the irony. In fact perhaps they should target married men? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Spart Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) Plenty of candidates available in the City; that's full of professional *****ers. Further to that, I refer the forum to answers I gave some days ago: http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=153080&st=0&p=2752657entry2752657 Edited October 20, 2010 by Dave Spart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time lurking Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 It would look good on your CV last job professional w@nker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Don't Surf Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Plenty of candidates available in the City; that's full of professional *****ers. Yes, merchant bankers as they used to be referred to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AskFrank Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 On the radio today they have been talking about paying sperm donors the same as women who donate eggs. At present neither are paid but they're arguing that if women get paid for taking complex drugs, and having a surgical procedure then men should get paid for sitting with a magazine in a cupboard with a cup. It strikes me that paying for the time would be the right way of doing this. (Or arguing that a man can donate say 20 times and a woman only once... so the fees should reflect this somehow...) So how many of you would donate reproductive tissue in order to raise money (They have just upped the limit on the number of times a man can donate) And would you put the money towards your mortgage? (Just to keep it on topic a bit!) Never agreed with the whole sperm donor issue. If a woman cannot find a man to have kids with the natural way, then there is probably a reason why ...and do we really want anymore of them in this world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjk Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 So how many of you would donate reproductive tissue in order to raise money (They have just upped the limit on the number of times a man can donate) I vaguely recall reading about a case where a mother and/or child went to court to find out who the sperm donor father was. The downside isn't worth it IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjk Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Never agreed with the whole sperm donor issue. If a woman cannot find a man to have kids with the natural way, then there is probably a reason why ...and do we really want anymore of them in this world? I don't agree with that. Suppose hubby is out of juice due to working to the bone paying off the mortgage on an over-inflated flat. What's better - wifey going to the pub hoping to get picked up and knocked up? Or a visit to the clinic? What would you prefer if it was your wife? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieboy Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Never agreed with the whole sperm donor issue. If a woman cannot find a man to have kids with the natural way, then there is probably a reason why ...and do we really want anymore of them in this world? Jesus, are you for real? I take it you, your family or anyone you've every loved have never benefited any life saving medical or surgical intervention. Do we really want any more of you in this world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hun Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Is masturbation OK in that six months? No. Who wants to go through a whole load of tests, fill out paperwork and then abstain from sex and Alcohol for three months - while donating - and then, in twenty years get 10-20 children demanding an explanation and money. Oh, and get bombard by insults by pig ignorant fools. Not surprising, there are extremely few sperm donors in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hun Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I don't agree with that. Suppose hubby is out of juice due to working to the bone paying off the mortgage on an over-inflated flat. What's better - wifey going to the pub hoping to get picked up and knocked up? Or a visit to the clinic? What would you prefer if it was your wife? The fact is most women who need a donor are going to do that or its modern equivalent, the web site forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) They also said (on Radio 4 this morning) that men need to refrain from drinking alcohol or having sex for six months prior to donating -- slightly changes the equation there. I'd definitely not put the money towards a mortgage. I didn't hear that bit http://bridge-spermdonor.co.uk/information_pack.pdf this says 3 days. If accepted, how often would I need to produce samples? Donors should ideally produce two samples a week for four to six months. Many of our current donors, however, produce one sample each week on a regular basis. We do appreciate that this will not always be possible, but a commitment to producing samples regularly is important. t Edited October 20, 2010 by SarahBell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissy_fit Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I didn't hear that bit http://bridge-spermdonor.co.uk/information_pack.pdf this says 3 days. If accepted, how often would I need to produce samples? Donors should ideally produce two samples a week for four to six months. Many of our current donors, however, produce one sample each week on a regular basis. We do appreciate that this will not always be possible, but a commitment to producing samples regularly is important. t That's not exactly demanding considering porn stars have to produce samples about 6 times a day. Can I take it that your real name isn't Sarah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 No. Who wants to go through a whole load of tests, fill out paperwork and then abstain from sex and Alcohol for three months - while donating - and then, in twenty years get 10-20 children demanding an explanation and money. Oh, and get bombard by insults by pig ignorant fools. Not surprising, there are extremely few sperm donors in the UK. Looking here it doesn't support what was said on the radio: http://www.carefertility.com/donation-programme-sc3/donating-sperm-sj5/page-2/ Would I be a suitable sperm donor?You may or may not have already had a preliminary interview to assess your suitability as a donor. If you have not, after reading the information you will be asked a series of questions to make sure that you are suitable to be a donor before we can discuss this further. Current regulations require donors to be between the ages of 18 and 40 years, should be fit and healthy, and they and their families should be free from any serious medical condition or genetic disease. There are certain high-risk groups from which we cannot recruit donors. If you belong to or have ever belonged to any of these groups we cannot accept you as a sperm donor. * Drug users * Haemophiliacs (treated with blood products). * Residents from high-risk areas such as Central Africa. * Men who, are or ever have been, sexually involved with members (male or female) of the above groups. Once you have received and read our information, we will arrange an appointment time for you to attend CARE for a test semen analysis and run through the procedure in more detail with a member of our team. We will ask you to produce a semen sample, so that we can test how sperm react to being frozen. For this and any future samples, you should abstain from having sex or masturbating for at least 2 days but no more than 5 days, to maximise the potential of your sample. ........ What happens after I am accepted as a donor? Donors are registered with the HFEA, which means anyone conceived using donated sperm will be able to consult the register and find out who the donor was, once they reach 18. This is a point to which you need to give serious consideration and is something that will be discussed with you at your initial appointment. It is important to note however that the donor of sperm is NOT the legal parent and you will not be financially or emotionally liable for the upbringing of any child created using your sperm. As it is possible for a virus to reside in your body (and your sperm) but not be detectable for up to 6 months, we must repeat your screening tests a full 6 months after you finish donating. You should therefore ensure that you are available to attend the centre 6 months after your final donation. This enables us to release the sperm for treatment, subject to satisfactory final screening results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hun Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Looking here it doesn't support what was said on the radio: How much time is expected of me?Samples need to be produced at CARE by appointment only and we do our utmost to offer you mutually convenient appointment times. Appointments will be made with the laboratory staff after each donation. Donations need to be made regularly (within a 2 month period) and you should anticipate attending the clinic at least once or possibly twice a week until sufficient sperm has been collected and stored, usually around 8 donations, although this varies from donor to donor. So basically you have to abstain for two months except for a weekly donation. I believe the number of UK sperm donors is tiny, under twenty per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMartinSanchez Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 It would look good on your CV last job professional w@nker That's perfect if you're heading into politics, or the banking sector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AskFrank Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Jesus, are you for real? I take it you, your family or anyone you've every loved have never benefited any life saving medical or surgical intervention. Do we really want any more of you in this world? Are you for real!? Fact remains those women who NEED a sperm donor, can't get laid. They can't get laid because of a reason. This is the real world. It's how it's always been. Only the strongest, healthiest and people with good genes are MEANT to survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 Only the strongest, healthiest and people with good genes are MEANT to survive. So cut OAP benefits, disabled benefits etc? Saves tons of money, especially if you stop pensions and let people starve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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