Confusion of VIs Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, kzb said: What do you mean "our" continuing delay? The UK has made just about the most rapid progress of any major country. Like I keep saying, removing fossil fuel use is a truly massive undertaking. It can't be done this week or this decade. That barely visible sliver of blue on the top of the plot (put your specs on to see it) is the extent of progress. Less than 4% of total energy. 🤦♂️ That barely visible sliver is our lack of progress. Our "progress" to date mainly consists of switching to gas because it was cheaper than coal, outsourcing our carbon production to other countries and large scale false accounting re Biofuels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Casual-observer said: Which is when seeing as the British msm claimed the Russians would be out of ammo in three days which was well over a month ago? Whataboutery. Link? 1 minute ago, Casual-observer said: The sanctions have gaping holes, they're not making jack sh1t difference Oh so you agree they have a point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual-observer Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Si1 said: Whataboutery. Link? Oh so you agree they have a point... Here you go chief https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-food-weapons-shortage-ukraine-b2041181.html Nope, via china and India they'll survive. The only way to hurt Russia is to turn off Europe's economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Casual-observer said: Here you go chief https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-food-weapons-shortage-ukraine-b2041181.html A single link is hardly the msm 13 minutes ago, Casual-observer said: Nope, via china and India they'll survive. The only way to hurt Russia is to turn off Europe's economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusion of VIs Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Casual-observer said: Here you go chief https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-food-weapons-shortage-ukraine-b2041181.html Nope, via china and India they'll survive. The only way to hurt Russia is to turn off Europe's economy. That article is about the attack around Kiev. They did run out of supplies, were defeated and had to make a rapid retreat, so rapid they left 7,000 bodies behind. In the East they have ready access to supplies direct from Russia so the war there will turn into a long slog. Edited April 17, 2022 by Confusion of VIs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual-observer Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Confusion of VIs said: That article is about the attack around Kiev. They did run out of supplies, were defeated and had to make a rapid retreat, so rapid they left 7,000 bodies behind. In the East they have ready access to supplies direct from Russia so the war there will turn into a long slog. Erm..no it isn't. The article makes no specific mention at all of the theatre around Kiev, it speak's in general terms The Russians hit 800 targets last night by the way, they're no where near showing signs of running out of anything. Edited April 17, 2022 by Casual-observer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusion of VIs Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, Casual-observer said: Erm..no it isn't. The article makes no specific mention at all of the theatre around Kiev, it speak's in general terms The Russians hit 800 targets last night by the way, they're no where near showing signs of running out of anything. It is obvious what it was referring to and proved correct. Where did you get the information about hitting 800 targets from. If the Russian's had the capability to do that they wouldn't be in the mess they are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual-observer Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Confusion of VIs said: It is obvious what it was referring to and proved correct. Where did you get the information about hitting 800 targets from. If the Russian's had the capability to do that they wouldn't be in the mess they are in. So obvious they made no mention of Kiev. If I were you I'd worry less about Russia or more about your cognitive state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusion of VIs Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Casual-observer said: So obvious they made no mention of Kiev. If I were you I'd worry less about Russia or more about your cognitive state 🤣🤣 Oh dear, you are as easily triggered. Shades of Rollover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 10 hours ago, Confusion of VIs said: 🤣🤣 Oh dear, you are as easily triggered. Shades of Rollover? Its the fact he claims to have a nose for ******** that really puts the satirical edge on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzb Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 14 hours ago, Confusion of VIs said: 🤦♂️ That barely visible sliver is our lack of progress. Our "progress" to date mainly consists of switching to gas because it was cheaper than coal, outsourcing our carbon production to other countries and large scale false accounting re Biofuels. Possibly, but it also represents one of the best efforts towards renewables out of all major economies. Where has it got us? A barely visible sliver on the total UK energy plot (the plot for the whole world looks similar but the barely visible sliver of renewables is virtually microscopic). What's more, that barely visible sliver is the easy bit. There is still capacity in fossil fuel generation to compensate for low wind conditions. That capacity will disappear going forward, and that is still a problem not being addressed or costed for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButter Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/24/south-africa-floods-rain-climate-crisis-extreme-weather After the relentless rain, South Africa sounds the alarm on the climate crisis Survivors of South Africa’s devastating floods have described “sheet upon sheet of relentless rain” that washed away entire houses, bridges and roads, killing about 450 people and making thousands homeless. The storm, which delivered close to an entire year’s usual rainfall in 48 hours, took meteorologists by surprise and has been blamed by experts on climate change. The new disaster comes after three tropical cyclones and two tropical storms hit south-east Africain just six weeks in the first months of this year. The full extent of the devastation caused by the floods in South Africa this month is yet to become clear, with many victims still missing and authorities still learning of new damage around the eastern coastal city of Durban. Many tens of thousands of people remain without water, and there are rising concerns about an outbreak of infectious disease. And: https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/south-africa-population Based on current projections, South Africa’s population will continue to grow until 2082, reaching just over 80 million people before plateauing and slightly declining the rest of the century. South Africa’s population growth rate is currently 1.28% per year. South Africa’s birth rate is 19.995 births per 1,000 people and its death rate is 9.3 deaths per 1,000 people. The birth rate is more than double the death rate in South Africa. Additionally, the fertility rate is 2.372 births per woman, well above the population replacement rate of 2.1 births per woman. While the birth and fertility rates are both high, they have each decreased annually, indicating the slowing of South Africa’s population growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzb Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 hours ago, PeanutButter said: After the relentless rain, South Africa sounds the alarm on the climate crisis Once again Peanut, it is virtually inevitable this event is not the worst on record there and it has happened before. The details will no doubt appear shortly. This happens every time. Your second story about the population gives us a clue about the story reporting though. The same thing happening back in 1950, or whatever, wouldn't affect so many people, and the Guardian wouldn't have reported it over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButter Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, kzb said: Once again Peanut, it is virtually inevitable this event is not the worst on record there and it has happened before. The details will no doubt appear shortly. This happens every time. Your second story about the population gives us a clue about the story reporting though. The same thing happening back in 1950, or whatever, wouldn't affect so many people, and the Guardian wouldn't have reported it over here. Do you believe in man made climate change or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 9 hours ago, PeanutButter said: Do you believe in man made climate change or not? There's a 7 year BBC TV programme that started Sunday that is following our impacts so I expect howls against licence fee to intensify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzb Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 15 hours ago, PeanutButter said: Do you believe in man made climate change or not? When you say "believe" that shows it is a religious cult in your mind. In your posts, you are showing us the Anger Of The Climate God. He or she (or whatever) is displeased with us in Britain and demands sacrifice. We must self-flagellate for our sins against the rest of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButter Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, kzb said: When you say "believe" that shows it is a religious cult in your mind. In your posts, you are showing us the Anger Of The Climate God. He or she (or whatever) is displeased with us in Britain and demands sacrifice. We must self-flagellate for our sins against the rest of the world. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, kzb said: When you say "believe" that shows it is a religious cult in your mind. In your posts, you are showing us the Anger Of The Climate God. He or she (or whatever) is displeased with us in Britain and demands sacrifice. We must self-flagellate for our sins against the rest of the world. Just answer the question you pleb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzb Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just now, byron78 said: Just answer the question you pleb. Your rich landlord side is re emerging ! Not so socialist after all, calling us plebs ! I'm still waiting for your answer to how we rob those offshore trust funds. I don't think you responded to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzb Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 2 hours ago, PeanutButter said: Lol. @byron78 There you go, I answered your question back then. In fact I've probably said the same thing several times over. It's quite difficult to read that small print, but I find if people have to put a bit of work in to find something out, they remember it better. Because recollection is a massive problem on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButter Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 35 minutes ago, kzb said: @byron78 There you go, I answered your question back then. In fact I've probably said the same thing several times over. It's quite difficult to read that small print, but I find if people have to put a bit of work in to find something out, they remember it better. Because recollection is a massive problem on here. Just for everyone's benefit here, go ahead and clarify. You agree that climate change is linked to manmade emissions, correct? QUOTE - KZB: "I'm not denying there is some warming, and I'd even say a portion of it is man-made." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon99 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, kzb said: @byron78 There you go, I answered your question back then. In fact I've probably said the same thing several times over. It's quite difficult to read that small print, but I find if people have to put a bit of work in to find something out, they remember it better. Because recollection is a massive problem on here. You've clearly got the wrong opinion for some of the residents of this forum, so are getting the treatment. Rather than listen to other viewpoints there seems to be a hardcore group more interested in name calling and belittling others. Edited April 25, 2022 by simon99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzb Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 38 minutes ago, simon99 said: You've clearly got the wrong opinion for some of the residents of this forum, so are getting the treatment. Rather than listen to other viewpoints there seems to be a hardcore group more interested in name calling and belittling others. You don't say ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzb Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, PeanutButter said: Just for everyone's benefit here, go ahead and clarify. You agree that climate change is linked to manmade emissions, correct? QUOTE - KZB: "I'm not denying there is some warming, and I'd even say a portion of it is man-made." I stick with what I put (in bold). Please note this is not exactly what you have written, it is saying some portion of climate change is linked to manmade emissions. Which is actually what the IPCC says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon99 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, kzb said: You don't say ! Yes, and they're the most tolerant ones as well, and moral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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