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16 hours ago, mrtickle said:

Of course. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't read the Fixed Term Parliaments Act - and this includes betting shops (and sadly, many posters above!). The sequence of events required to get an early election is incredibly tenuous and unlikely, next, the chances of those exact events happening without all parties wanting an election at the same time are zero.

Betting shop odds don't necessarily reflect the betting shops' view on the odds of something happening .  They tweak the odds up and down depending upon what people are betting on to try and balance their books and hedge all the bets.  So short odds on a 2019 election doesn't mean that betting shops think it will happen, it more likely means that lots of  punters are betting on it.

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On ‎19‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 17:41, AdamoMucci said:

 

Not sure if serious

 

 

 

Unless I have missed some recent development, the SNP will surely enter a C&S relationship with Labour. Which, on these numbers,  will mean if Lib Dems choose a side, they will decide weather it is Con or Lab that enters Downing Street. Also, I will be really impressed/amazed if TM survives as PM until 2022. She is extremely vulnerable after March next year.

On the numbers in the OP the Lib Dems would hold a lot of power. They might be too scared to exercise it though. But I think the most likely would be they also agree to support Labour with a rather limited C&S.

It is going to be popcorn time if the numbers in the OP come about. Would cause a very unstable situation!

What is C&S?

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7 minutes ago, Byron said:

What is C&S?

Confidence & Supply.

 

they agree to support the main party in any vote of no confidence, and also supply support for major govt bills like the budget and stuff, AFAIK - in return for priorly agreed concessions

 

it's short of a full coalition

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On ‎20‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 20:19, Si1 said:

Confidence & Supply.

 

they agree to support the main party in any vote of no confidence, and also supply support for major govt bills like the budget and stuff, AFAIK - in return for priorly agreed concessions

 

it's short of a full coalition

Some posters utterly amaze me in their strenuous efforts to achieve obscurity.

WHY use initials, when the full words are efficient.

Dosbodders pride themselves on their logic, practicality and pragmaticism.

Why spoil it?

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47 minutes ago, Byron said:

Some posters utterly amaze me in their strenuous efforts to achieve obscurity.

WHY use initials, when the full words are efficient.

Dosbodders pride themselves on their logic, practicality and pragmaticism.

Why spoil it?

Another way of putting it is "thankyou, Si1, for explaining that".

HTH

 

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2 hours ago, Byron said:

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WHY use initials, when the full words are efficient.

 

May well have been because they were typing on a smartphone on the bus, or quickly in the office, or inbetween conversing with the spouse/mother in law etc.

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16 hours ago, Si1 said:

May well have been because they were typing on a smartphone on the bus, or quickly in the office, or inbetween conversing with the spouse/mother in law etc.

Have you read any IT articles printed in the 1980's?

Many of the initials used are redundant and make the whole thing ridiculous,

(or if you prefer MTWTR)

Anyway, if Google hasn't heard of C&S it must be obscure. (IMBO)

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After the libdems experience of a full coalition would they dare risk it again or indeed the SNP learn from the libdems experience?

Will people who are so critical of the LDs ever realise they were they were the minority not majority party and and Nick Clegg wasn't actually PM?  

Will our media be able to evolve their debate and analysis to cope with the inevitable compromise of any true coalition? 

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On 20/10/2018 at 00:52, macca13 said:

But how could you vote for the CON’s!

They are financial terrorists, theives.. 

Jeremy Hunt reminds me of Tony Blair.. greedy, slimy, corrupt.. I would rather vote Monster Raving Loony than this lot! 

Lesser of evils. I have no love at all for the Tories but I know where Socialism leads and that is far worse.

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On 20/10/2018 at 01:35, Dorkins said:

If Labour are doing so badly in NE England, how do you explain the fact that they increased their vote share in every single constituency there between 2015 and 2017? Is "losing their core base" code for "old people don't want to vote for Labour"? Newsflash, pensioners aren't the only ones with the vote. If anything it makes sense for the Labour Party to appeal to working age voters, clue's in the name.

They got the Student vote along with the Single Mother vote which both make up a huge block up here. Most people 30+ I know round here though have abandoned them for a multitude of reasons. I'm in my twenties and know a fair number of students who also regret their votes, most admitting they only voted for "free" stuff. A lot of Remainers I know have turned to Leavers too which has an effect. Most of them said they voted to remain in for cheap holidays abroad and so they wouldn't have to hassle with VISAs.

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