Theresa May: “There’s nothing inherently wrong with renting your own home...you’re not less of a person for doing so.”

[Democorruptcy]

Nothing wrong with renting your own home? Of course not, imputed rent is at least 12% of GDP.

[zugzwang]

Nothing wrong with renting. You're still paying off a mortgage. Just not your own.

[TheMadJock]

10 hours ago, Shrink Proof said:

Liam Fox has the look of a man desperately struggling to retain a suppository.

Not a suppository, I reckon he's struggling with a really, really big fart ???

[macca13]

12 hours ago, disenfranchised said:

As somebody who has rented for 13 years straight and suffered no fault evictions 3 times, may I be the first to invite Theresa to ****** off.

+ 100.. top comment, her and Philip Hammond the Construction company owning tw@t.. How corrupt can you get owning a house builders and having power over the budget of house building itself.. ?

[Fairyland]

Is she renting/own her house?

Edited March 8, 2018 by Fairyland

[Option5]

Council house, number 10

[GreenDevil]

10 hours ago, inbruges said:

The only thing that tempts me to Corbyn and even though I know it's like voting for a scorched earth scenario is that Corbyn will go for the top 1%, bankers and will build no matter  what happens to property values.

But say he build 1 or 2 million homes, will they go to what they class as essential, those that breed without incomes and jobs, those who flood these shores he is sure to let it.

Hate Question Time on BBC 1, too dogmatic, but it was picked up again last week by the panel , so many people at the moment are partyless, those people tend to be self reliant working average slightly above people who don't want to screw the system, they just want a fair one where work means something

Topic this week had a good question. About adopting social housing and is a home an asset or a human right. The only scumbag who wasn't in favour was you guessed it Liam Fox. The usual build more houses and HTB Bs. They are so far out of reality it's untrue.

[Dorkins]

Yeah thanks Theresa, I know my family and I aren't in the wrong. It's your HPI-pumping government and its landowner and banker pals who are going at the link between effort and reward with a lump hammer.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, GreenDevil said:

Topic this week had a good question. About adopting social housing and is a home an asset or a human right. The only scumbag who wasn't in favour was you guessed it Liam Fox. The usual build more houses and HTB Bs. They are so far out of reality it's untrue.

 

Housing is a right, or at least it should be. But what really bugs me is the fact that there is no correlation between what you put into UK society and what it rewards you with in the way of housing. You can work a 10 hour day, pay taxes and take total financial responsibility for yourself and family and then watch a dis functional family with criminal parent/s with a number of conceived while on welfare kids living a welfare lifestyle or a non English speaking zero skilled immigrant family walk into housing that you have no chance of obtaining.

Take say the top 1% in the UK and I bet you they are probably living in the top 1% of quality and priced housing. You then take someone who could be contributing to the UK coffers and they are in providing in the way of taxes and GDP etc and could be giving more than 90% of the country does, and yet they  don't even have a look in at the worst housing dross in the UK and social housing is a complete no no because I am not a f**k up, the system is totally  f****d.

There was a time when I would of punched myself in the face for even considering the workhouse, but if I have to keep paying the price for the lazy and the immigrant self entitled then workhouses it is. 

[GreenDevil]

27 minutes ago, inbruges said:

 

Housing is a right, or at least it should be. But what really bugs me is the fact that there is no correlation between what you put into UK society and what it rewards you with in the way of housing. You can work a 10 hour day, pay taxes and take total financial responsibility for yourself and family and then watch a dis functional family with criminal parent/s with a number of conceived while on welfare kids living a welfare lifestyle or a non English speaking zero skilled immigrant family walk into housing that you have no chance of obtaining.

Take say the top 1% in the UK and I bet you they are probably living in the top 1% of quality and priced housing. You then take someone who could be contributing to the UK coffers and they are in providing in the way of taxes and GDP etc and could be giving more than 90% of the country does, and yet they  don't even have a look in at the worst housing dross in the UK and social housing is a complete no no because I am not a f**k up, the system is totally  f****d.

There was a time when I would of punched myself in the face for even considering the workhouse, but if I have to keep paying the price for the lazy and the immigrant self entitled then workhouses it is. 

It is getting very soon at the point, where all the media and educational brainwashing wont wash. When there are enough supportive people, who have no chance of a home, then the winning electoral party will be the one that changes the system. In the end the tories and their landowning classes are finished.

[dougless]

25 minutes ago, GreenDevil said:

It is getting very soon at the point, where all the media and educational brainwashing wont wash. When there are enough supportive people, who have no chance of a home, then the winning electoral party will be the one that changes the system. In the end the tories and their landowning classes are finished.

I hope you are correct but I fear this may never happen.  I would welcome an end to the Tories and their ilk but we still have too many Alf Garnett types left in the UK so its hard to imagine a time with no Tories.

[Democorruptcy]

29 minutes ago, GreenDevil said:

It is getting very soon at the point, where all the media and educational brainwashing wont wash. When there are enough supportive people, who have no chance of a home, then the winning electoral party will be the one that changes the system. In the end the tories and their landowning classes are finished.

You seriously think it matters what colour tie the puppets wear in our democorruptcy? Have you forgotten what happened to house prices under the red ties?

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Democorruptcy said:

You seriously think it matters what colour tie the puppets wear in our democorruptcy? Have you forgotten what happened to house prices under the red ties?

Since post WW2 I would say that Blair apart from all his other f*** ups has done more damage to the housing market than anyone else by far, I am personally furious with the Tories for not reversing the damage.

[GreenDevil]

34 minutes ago, Democorruptcy said:

You seriously think it matters what colour tie the puppets wear in our democorruptcy? Have you forgotten what happened to house prices under the red ties?

Doesnt my post indicate that the colour of tie is irrelevant. Its going to be the one who addresses the 'home' is a right not an asset problem. Until now no one has becuase its not affected election outcomes. The tipping point is soon. Another dose of 25% HPI (prolly another year or so) should see more older people priced out and make a difference to elections.

Edited March 9, 2018 by GreenDevil

[iamnumerate]

28 minutes ago, inbruges said:

Since post WW2 I would say that Blair apart from all his other f*** ups has done more damage to the housing market than anyone else by far, I am personally furious with the Tories for not reversing the damage.

I agree with you about Blair.  The Tories did have an unique problem when they took power, they owned unhealthy banks which had mortgages on overpriced homes.  I can understand why they didn't want the market to crash and kill RBS etc. 

Saying that HTB was a complete disaster and can't be defended.

[A.steve]

23 hours ago, shatner's bassoon said:

Dear Mrs May,

While there is nothing "inherently wrong" with renting a home you already own, perhaps through an off-shore company - for example, this scenario is not the most contentious.

One becomes a substantially lesser person where, either, one rents one's home from a landlord to whom one must become subservient - or if one accepts exploitation by a systemically unethical financial system that enslaves through the malicious issuance of excess credit.

P.S. Thanks for reducing the targets for house-building.  It is good to know that my government opposes its electorate having an abundance of residential options.

Edited March 9, 2018 by A.steve

[iamnumerate]

1 hour ago, inbruges said:

 

Housing is a right, or at least it should be. But what really bugs me is the fact that there is no correlation between what you put into UK society and what it rewards you with in the way of housing. You can work a 10 hour day, pay taxes and take total financial responsibility for yourself and family and then watch a dis functional family with criminal parent/s with a number of conceived while on welfare kids living a welfare lifestyle or a non English speaking zero skilled immigrant family walk into housing that you have no chance of obtaining.

Take say the top 1% in the UK and I bet you they are probably living in the top 1% of quality and priced housing. You then take someone who could be contributing to the UK coffers and they are in providing in the way of taxes and GDP etc and could be giving more than 90% of the country does, and yet they  don't even have a look in at the worst housing dross in the UK and social housing is a complete no no because I am not a f**k up, the system is totally  f****d.

There was a time when I would of punched myself in the face for even considering the workhouse, but if I have to keep paying the price for the lazy and the immigrant self entitled then workhouses it is. 

I have some sympathy with this.  I have seen people arrive in the UK and get housing in Islington.  How is that fair?

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, iamnumerate said:

I have some sympathy with this.  I have seen people arrive in the UK and get housing in Islington.  How is that fair?

I am a South London boy,  my heart will always be in London though I have no desire to return. But there are only two ways that I could, either become stinking rich, and by that I mean top 1%, or abuse the welfare system, 95% of jobs along with no desire to abuse the welfare system  makes it impossible.

I will never forget that Channel 4 program on London housing when an  immigrant curry waiter and his non working  wife turned down a £450K valued flat with ensuite because it had no parking, none of them could drive by the way. It was possibly the closest I ever came to smashing my TV up

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, iamnumerate said:

I agree with you about Blair.  The Tories did have an unique problem when they took power, they owned unhealthy banks which had mortgages on overpriced homes.  I can understand why they didn't want the market to crash and kill RBS etc. 

Saying that HTB was a complete disaster and can't be defended.

I am amazed that when it comes to the housing crisis the public cannot tell the difference between the building of homes and the building of increased debt

[iamnumerate]

10 minutes ago, inbruges said:

I am a South London boy,  my heart will always be in London though I have no desire to return. But there are only two ways that I could, either become stinking rich, and by that I mean top 1%, or abuse the welfare system, 95% of jobs along with no desire to abuse the welfare system  makes it impossible.

I will never forget that Channel 4 program on London housing when an  immigrant curry waiter and his non working  wife turned down a £450K valued flat with ensuite because it had no parking, none of them could drive by the way. It was possibly the closest I ever came to smashing my TV up

I didn't see that, wow talk about entitlement.  I did see Panorama and this woman from Ethopia was saying that she couldn't move from London to Milton Keynes.  How could she manage the move from Ethopia?

 

BTW A friend of mine who is an immigrant told me that it is our fault that people come here and get housing.  I have some sympathy for that view, although I did voted UKIP in 3 of the last 4 elections (the only one where I didn't there was not a candidate) so it is not MY fault.

Edited March 9, 2018 by iamnumerate

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, iamnumerate said:

I didn't see that, wow talk about entitlement.  I did see Panorama and this woman from Ethopia was saying that she couldn't move from London to Milton Keynes.  How could she manage the move from Ethopia?

I truly believe that deep down most people in Britain have the qualities that a good country would want. Hard working, ethical and self reliant, it's just that todays politicians make it impossible for us to tap into our good qualities and survive. I have gone full circle in so many ways, for example I have been on anti fascist marches and I truly hate racism. But I would not articulate on here how far away I have gone from the InBruges of old when it comes to immigration, and it upsets me.

[iamnumerate]

6 minutes ago, inbruges said:

I truly believe that deep down most people in Britain have the qualities that a good country would want. Hard working, ethical and self reliant, it's just that todays politicians make it impossible for us to tap into our good qualities and survive. I have gone full circle in so many ways, for example I have been on anti fascist marches and I truly hate racism. But I would not articulate on here how far away I have gone from the InBruges of old when it comes to immigration, and it upsets me.

I agree with you.  As my friend, giving people housing is our fault.  We voted for the politicians that allowed it to happen etc.

I know people who have come here from South America and gone to Spain from South America.  The difference in what they given is amazing.  If you go to Spain they don't get cheap/free housing - here they do.  (Obviously now everyone has cheap housing in Spain but a few years ago it was expensive like here).

[ubuntu]

44 minutes ago, iamnumerate said:

I have some sympathy with this.  I have seen people arrive in the UK and get housing in Islington.  How is that fair?

Interestingly I received the following in my email from Islington Labour Party, can't tell you how much it annoyed me, if these people didn't advocate interventionism to try to depose foreign leaders they don't like we wouldn't have these issues.

Quote

Dear xxxx,  Islington has always understood that people facing persecution or fleeing conflict have a home here. As the devastating civil war in Syria continues, and with the UN estimating more than 1 million refugees will need resettling in 2018, we want to do more to help those people fleeing the awful situation in their country. We are proud that Islington was one of the first local councils to welcome vulnerable Syrian refugees into our community. Since then, the Council has welcomed 10 Syrian families and has provided them with specialist ongoing support.  But we want to do more and to do that we need your help.  That's why we are sharing the Council's appeal to landlords to help transform the lives of Syrian refugee families by offering accommodation in the borough.  If you have a suitable property - self-contained family flats with one, two or more bedrooms - please get in touch by emailing - islingtonlettings@islington.gov.uk.  The Council and its partners offer support to landlords, and rent will be guaranteed by the Council.  You can also help children living in Syria by making a donation to the UNICEF appeal here. The response to our previous calls for support has been utterly incredible, with Islington once again showing itself to be the caring and compassionate borough that makes it such a great place to live. We want to say thank you for the support people like you have shown and to ask anyone with suitable accommodation to get in touch.  Best wishes,  Cllr Kaya Comer-Schwartz, Executive Member for Community Development @KayaJunction Cllr Richard Watts, Leader of Islington Council @RichardWatts01

Islington Labour · 65 Barnsbury St, London N1 1EJ, United Kingdom

 

[iamnumerate]

15 minutes ago, inbruges said:

I truly believe that deep down most people in Britain have the qualities that a good country would want. Hard working, ethical and self reliant, it's just that todays politicians make it impossible for us to tap into our good qualities and survive. I have gone full circle in so many ways, for example I have been on anti fascist marches and I truly hate racism. But I would not articulate on here how far away I have gone from the InBruges of old when it comes to immigration, and it upsets me.

I agree with you.  As my friend said, giving people housing is our fault.  We voted for the politicians that allowed it to happen etc.

I know people who have come here from South America and gone to Spain from South America.  The difference in what they given is amazing.  If you go to Spain they don't get cheap/free housing - here they do.  (Obviously now everyone has cheap housing in Spain but a few years ago it was expensive like here).

Edited March 9, 2018 by iamnumerate

[iamnumerate]

2 minutes ago, ubuntu said:

Interestingly I received the following in my email from Islington Labour Party, can't tell you how much it annoyed me, if these people didn't advocate interventionism to try to depose foreign leaders they don't like we wouldn't have these issues.

 

Very depressing, while others have to commute from places Folkestone to work in London these people who may need homes but don't work in London get housing near the city for free.