TulipsFromThreadneedle Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, rollover said: She dodged the question, like she always does. Another barely informed member of the public who can just about string a sentence together, she finds 2 in one day, all seems staged to me. She really is awful, i just cant believe the polls that she is going to walk it. I had a bet last time on the Libs to get under 10MPs at 20/1 i bet on Brexit at 8/1 so i like to think i've got my finger on the pulse ... surely i can't be so wrong about this rather odd woman and her wretched govt. They are far better organised than Corbyn and more polished but Corbyns policies on everything apart from Brexit and immigration are arguably what the plebs want. Pity Labour are too thick to see this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slawek Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Labour is considering a land value tax From their manifesto “initiate a review into reforming council tax and business rates and consider new options, such as a land value tax, to ensure local government has sustainable funding for the long term”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) 20 hours ago, brit1234 said: Theresa May cornered by a SECOND angry voter - this time about well-off families grabbing government housing help A man in Abingdon was upset that the Help To Buy housing policy benefited well-off families more than ordinary working people - and he's right http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-cornered-second-angry-voter-10427734 Thersa May just doesn't get it, praising help to buy and shared ownership to angry pensioner. Cameron would have been proud of her glib support of the scheme and her glib response to the question. Edited May 16, 2017 by billybong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, slawek said: Labour is considering a land value tax From their manifesto “initiate a review into reforming council tax and business rates and consider new options, such as a land value tax, to ensure local government has sustainable funding for the long term”. Yet another review to add to the many thousands of reviews, reports and white papers etc etc on those subjects and already stacked up on government shelves and elsewhere all around the country. If they don't know the fine details of their proposals by now then they never will. Time wasters. The other lots are no better of course. Edited May 16, 2017 by billybong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Must say that the election has been relatively free of Project Fear style campaigning so far - ok there's been a couple of Corbyn will officially be a disaster comments but nothing compared to the eu referendum from either side so far. They must try harder. Of course in any event it's always too much to expect reasoned discussion and debate to properly inform people from the UK political parties. Edited May 16, 2017 by billybong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, fru-gal said: General election 2017: The mystery of the three million 'extra' voters http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39922798 Not quite the Tower Hamlets extra votes. The EU vote energised people who would not normally vote. My take on Brexit is still that ~10% are hard leavers -Colonel Blimp types, 20% are hard Euers - its great! The other 70% are 'mwah-ish'. About 40% woul have gone along with voting In, 30% would have not voted. Come the vote, a lot of the 30% non voters were energised bythe number of EEer migrants so voted. Ditto for he mwah-ers - they voted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Quote 'You won't have to sell your home to pay for care': Theresa May vows bill can be deferred until after death but tens of thousands more will be forced to pay and winter fuel benefit will be axed for millions Daily Mail What group of voters she is actually targeting? I doubt this will be popular with older and wealthier Tories supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 11 minutes ago, rollover said: What group of voters she is actually targeting? I doubt this will be popular with older and wealthier Tories supporters. The UK is bankrupt. Housing is the last remaining pot of nominal wealth untapped by the state. Alas, this also implies that hpi is still very much a part of the Tory economic agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentimmo Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Quote The UK is bankrupt. Housing is the last remaining pot of nominal wealth untapped by the state. Alas, this also implies that hpi is still very much a part of the Tory economic agenda. Yes. It's also a sop to the Care Home companies, who finance the Tory party. "Trebles All Round", as they say in Private Eye..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Agentimmo said: Yes. It's also a sop to the Care Home companies, who finance the Tory party. "Trebles All Round", as they say in Private Eye..... Probably very close to the truth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 ^ mail link Quote Keep the target to cut net migration to the tens of thousands So it's still just a "target". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 ^ mail link Quote Theresa May will target rail bosses, phone firms, landlords and lawyers in the Tory manifesto. No mention of energy companies which are some of the biggest rip-off merchants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Quote Tory Philip Hammond skewered in BBC interview as he gets his figures in a major muddle The Chancellor didn't appear to have full grasp of the figures when he went on the radio to have a pop at Labour's manifesto. Tory Chancellor Philip Hammond went on the radio to attack Labour's manifesto - but ended up getting his own figures in a muddle. Mr Hammond claims there's a £58 billion hole in Labour's funding - but didn't appear to know the true cost of HS2 - the major rail project linking London with Leeds, Birmingham and the East Midlands. Asked for the cost of the major project by the BBC’s John Humphrys, Hammond said: "About £32 billion." Humphrys said: "£32 billion? Not £52 billion?" A flustered Hammond replied: "Er it's...over...I mean...there's a huge amount of contingency built in to the budgeting for these projects." "And they're usually met, these contingencies, aren't they?" Humphrys shot back. "These things almost always cost more than we expect." Mirror They can't be serious with 150 + majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusion of VIs Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 On 5/18/2017 at 2:36 PM, billybong said: ^ mail link So it's still just a "target". Even worse, It's a target with no delivery date. I.e. it will never happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Quote Jeremy Corbyn calls on Theresa May to drop 'anti-pensioner package' Manifesto targeting of pensions, winter fuel allowance and social care is attempt to set young against old. Theresa May should drop the “anti-pensioner package” in the Conservative manifesto, Jeremy Corbyn is to say, as controversial plans to means test the winter fuel allowance cause division within her party. Guardian They are all untrustworthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Distasteful poster which imposes Nigel Farage's head on to Theresa May Daily Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, rollover said: Distasteful poster which imposes Nigel Farage's head on to Theresa May Daily Mail Problem is theres so much shit you throw at the libdems in return. Starting with tintin and his We know better than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby81 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Corbyn on radio 1 mentioned state backed mortgages for the young ..details to be released this week..so just another Helptobuy scheme then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 hours ago, rollover said: Distasteful poster which imposes Nigel Farage's head on to Theresa May Daily Mail Win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knimbies who say No Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Wonder how many of Labour's recent new membership spike will have enjoyed Corbyn guaranteeing the triple lock yet being extremely vague on private renters' rights. Don't see the logic in that tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toast Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 On 17/05/2017 at 3:07 PM, spyguy said: My take on Brexit is still that ~10% are hard leavers -Colonel Blimp types Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 4 hours ago, The Knimbies who say No said: Wonder how many of Labour's recent new membership spike will have enjoyed Corbyn guaranteeing the triple lock yet being extremely vague on private renters' rights. Don't see the logic in that tbh. Theres a certain smartness to Cons move. Now you have Labour banging about protecting ott pensioners benefit and the richer members of society. Cons on the side of the younger, poorer, put upon voters. Its a good trap, and moron Corbyn runs right into it. Oh fvk tintins just been quoted on radio. Appartently Con are hard haeted and 100k policy dreamt up by southern tories and dont know about Northern voters. Itll affe t sputhern people, everyone kniws that you moron esp. Northerners. Totally fcking nuts. Ends with tintin say he likes football shgging burds, and a punchup every saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, spyguy said: Theres a certain smartness to Cons move. Now you have Labour banging about protecting ott pensioners benefit and the richer members of society. Cons on the side of the younger, poorer, put upon voters. Its a good trap, and moron Corbyn runs right into it. Oh fvk tintins just been quoted on radio. Appartently Con are hard haeted and 100k policy dreamt up by southern tories and dont know about Northern voters. Itll affe t sputhern people, everyone kniws that you moron esp. Northerners. Totally fcking nuts. Ends with tintin say he likes football shgging burds, and a punchup every saturday. I think Tories are for comfortable majority, but it is not really the 150+ avalanche they hoped for when they called the snap election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spaniard Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 11 hours ago, rollover said: Distasteful poster which imposes Nigel Farage's head on to Theresa May Daily Mail Looks more like Benicio del Toro than Nigel Farage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 And as I keep saying this is the first election after Thatcher dies. Now maggies worm food, the big scary bogeywomaa has gone, as if by magic. Cons have a clean slate now. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39949130 Labour have to wait til blair and brown peg it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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