The Eagle Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Since the introduction of the feel-in tariff (FIT) scheme in July 2012, 534,377 renewable energy-based power generation facilities had started operation. The total output capacity of them is 7,043,500kW, more than 97% of which is accounted for by solar power generation facilities (6,845,300kW). Compared with the capacity as of the end of November 2013, it is an increase of 587,000kW. http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20140326/342460/?ST=msbe&P=2Even though Japan is currently relying on fossil fuels to replace the switched off nuclear power plants, it looks like they are working hard and fast at moving on to renewable energies. Meanwhile what's the inept UK government doing? How many GW of PV went online in the UK in the past 2 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20140326/342460/?ST=msbe&P=2 Even though Japan is currently relying on fossil fuels to replace the switched off nuclear power plants, it looks like they are working hard and fast at moving on to renewable energies. Meanwhile what's the inept UK government doing? How many GW of PV went online in the UK in the past 2 years? FGS Please tell us what Pv is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 FGS Please tell us what Pv is PV=Photovoltaic i.e. solar panels for electricity generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Barlow Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20140326/342460/?ST=msbe&P=2 Even though Japan is currently relying on fossil fuels to replace the switched off nuclear power plants, it looks like they are working hard and fast at moving on to renewable energies. Meanwhile what's the inept UK government doing? How many GW of PV went online in the UK in the past 2 years? To put some perspective on this the Japanese climate is more suited to PV than the UK climate and whilst Japan has done very little in respect to wind power the UK has 10.5 GW compared to Japan's 2.7. And Japan has twice the population Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 PV=Photovoltaic i.e. solar panels for electricity generation. The World and his wife calls this solar energy, why call it Pv? The use of initials on this Forum is getting ridiculous, and just who did JR turn out to be? Perhaps people cannot spell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 The World and his wife calls this solar energy, why call it Pv? That's not true, there is thermal solar energy and there is photovoltaic solar energy, if you just say 'solar energy' then it's not clear which one you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigantic Purple Slug Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20140326/342460/?ST=msbe&P=2 Even though Japan is currently relying on fossil fuels to replace the switched off nuclear power plants, it looks like they are working hard and fast at moving on to renewable energies. Meanwhile what's the inept UK government doing? How many GW of PV went online in the UK in the past 2 years? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2593032/Coal-fuel-UK-centuries-Vast-deposits-totalling-23trillion-tonnes-North-Sea.html Coal is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 That's not true, there is thermal solar energy and there is photovoltaic solar energy, if you just say 'solar energy' then it's not clear which one you mean. Does it matter in this case? If you say "solar energy" then you're covering both IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Coal is the answer. Sure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 That's not true, there is thermal solar energy and there is photovoltaic solar energy, if you just say 'solar energy' then it's not clear which one you mean. The write photo voltaic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendy Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2593032/Coal-fuel-UK-centuries-Vast-deposits-totalling-23trillion-tonnes-North-Sea.html Coal is the answer. Andy? Or Carlton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissy_fit Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I am intrigued to know how solid coal is extracted from deep under the sea. Not that I think it's a great idea, just curious..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigantic Purple Slug Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I am intrigued to know how solid coal is extracted from deep under the sea. Not that I think it's a great idea, just curious..... You start with the mineshaft on land then tunnel out under the sea. It's not that hard, especially if you consider how deep a lot of the UK mines are. Or you do something like this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_coal_gasification Just out of interest the North Sea average depth is only 95m : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ayatollah Buggeri Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Does it matter in this case? If you say "solar energy" then you're covering both IMO. (S)he didn't want to cover both. The figure refers specifically to PV, i.e. it excludes the capture and subsequent use of solar energy in the form of heat as distinct from electricity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 You start with the mineshaft on land then tunnel out under the sea. It's not that hard, especially if you consider how deep a lot of the UK mines are. Or you do something like this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_coal_gasification Just out of interest the North Sea average depth is only 95m : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_sea A lot of the mines in the North East went under the sea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Generation Game Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Andy? Or Carlton? Carlton (Banks), obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/ Doesn't show PV? https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/feed-in-tariff-statistics#annual Data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The XYY Man Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 A lot of the mines in the North East went under the sea! Horden, Blackhall and Easington certainly did - before Thatcher closed them all. They still have to pump the water out of them to this day. The mines were very close to the sea - as shown by footage of the coal-tippers featured at the end of 'Get Carter' dumping Micheal Caine's dead enemy into the brine. These were from one these collieries, and to this day each village claims it was their stretch of the beach featured in the film. I lived in Horden in the late 70's to mid 80's, and I think they were the ones in the movie. Difficult to say for sure though as they are long gone now... Indecently, Caine's character would've had to have ran about 25 miles in 3 minutes from the location of the preceding scene which was shot much closer to Newcastle. XYY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Horden, Blackhall and Easington certainly did - before Thatcher closed them all. They still have to pump the water out of them to this day. The mines were very close to the sea - as shown by footage of the coal-tippers featured at the end of 'Get Carter' dumping Micheal Caine's dead enemy into the brine. These were from one these collieries, and to this day each village claims it was their stretch of the beach featured in the film. I lived in Horden in the late 70's to mid 80's, and I think they were the ones in the movie. Difficult to say for sure though as they are long gone now... Indecently, Caine's character would've had to have ran about 25 miles in 3 minutes from the location of the preceding scene which was shot much closer to Newcastle. Aye well, that was the North-East for you, for people living near the Central Line! I don't think a Cockney Geezer in a suit, would have lasted long in Benwell! I used to have to pretend I was from Yorkshire! and that was the 1980s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigantic Purple Slug Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Indecently, Caine's character would've had to have ran about 25 miles in 3 minutes from the location of the preceding scene which was shot much closer to Newcastle. XYY To be fair, he did look a bit knackered when he got to the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AteMoose Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 http://techon.nikkei...60/?ST=msbe&P=2 Even though Japan is currently relying on fossil fuels to replace the switched off nuclear power plants, it looks like they are working hard and fast at moving on to renewable energies. Meanwhile what's the inept UK government doing? How many GW of PV went online in the UK in the past 2 years? rise from 1,014 MW to 2,698MW in two years, expected to rise to 22GW by 2020... http://en.wikipedia...._United_Kingdom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Have they not heard of fracking? The Cornish tin mines followed the seams under the sea and they could clearly hear rocks being tossed about over their heads during storms, a reminder of all that water just above you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Barlow Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I am intrigued to know how solid coal is extracted from deep under the sea. Not that I think it's a great idea, just curious..... Frack it to extract the coal seam gas - pretty much what they do in Queensland (Gladstone LNG) After the CSG has been extracted and you really want to fry the planet - Coal seam gasification (ie set fire to it by pumping in oxygen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainlessSteelCat Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20140326/342460/?ST=msbe&P=2 Even though Japan is currently relying on fossil fuels to replace the switched off nuclear power plants, it looks like they are working hard and fast at moving on to renewable energies. Meanwhile what's the inept UK government doing? How many GW of PV went online in the UK in the past 2 years? Not sure how much in the last couple of years, but it's definitely accelerating. We have about 2.5GW at the moment, and some experts reckon we might have 5GW by the end of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissy_fit Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Not sure how much in the last couple of years, but it's definitely accelerating. We have about 2.5GW at the moment, and some experts reckon we might have 5GW by the end of this year. That's fine as long as it's on top of buildings or land that can't be used to grow food. Makes me furious to see PV on fertile farmland, in fact maybe someone should mount a campaign to smash them all, it's wrong, wrong wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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