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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/dominique-strauss-kahn/8610143/Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-case-on-verge-of-collapse-amid-doubts-over-maid.html

Prosecutors have serious concerns about the credibility of the 32-year-old maid who accused Mr Strauss-Kahn of attempting to rape her, according to several reports.

They believe she has lied about their encounter, has links to a drug dealer and received strange payments into her bank account, according to The New York Times.

The woman's account of why she received asylum in the US, and even her claim to own only one mobile phone, have also been called into serious doubt, the report said.

Citing unnamed law-enforcement sources, the newspaper reported that New York prosecutors had admitted to Mr Strauss-Kahn's lawyers that there were serious problems with their case.

Looks like this is going to end up being dropped?

Although you do wonder where the "strange payments" have come from....

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Although you do wonder where the "strange payments" have come from....

News of the World?

Or one of america's many equally trustworthy muck-spreading organisations?

[edit to add] Impossible to say whether it's him or her being set up. Maybe both.

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She must answer why a poor immigrant cleaning lady had $100,000 paid into her accounts. It could be drug money and nothing to do with the rape case, but it is certainly not normal and will fuel conspiracy theories.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/dominique-strauss-kahn/8610143/Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-case-on-verge-of-collapse-amid-doubts-over-maid.html

Looks like this is going to end up being dropped?

Although you do wonder where the "strange payments" have come from....

This is exactly what some of us had predicted at the start. Once Strauss Khan was out of the French Presidential race and had quit the IMF then it was job done. The case was always liable to be dropped later. If the accuser can be proven to be a habitual liar then her credibility is likely to be torn to shreds in court.

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Looks like this is going to end up being dropped?

Although you do wonder where the "strange payments" have come from....

How interesting that this should come about just days after his US and Sarkozy backed replacement at the IMF has been appointed.

I'm sure it is all a coincidence

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She must answer why a poor immigrant cleaning lady had $100,000 paid into her accounts. It could be drug money and nothing to do with the rape case, but it is certainly not normal and will fuel conspiracy theories.

Didn't UK police get into a bit of trouble over the idea (whether true or false) that if they saw a black driver in a flashy motor they'd assume it stolen and take action?

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She must answer why a poor immigrant cleaning lady had $100,000 paid into her accounts. It could be drug money and nothing to do with the rape case, but it is certainly not normal and will fuel conspiracy theories.

Ofc, it's completely impossible that someone at a bank changed the records.

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Didn't UK police get into a bit of trouble over the idea (whether true or false) that if they saw a black driver in a flashy motor they'd assume it stolen and take action?

Back in the 1970s and 80s they also drew some criticism for inventing the offences of Being Irish in a Public Place and Having Long Hair After Sunset. Deciding that Being Black in a Nice Car was also an offence was just a development of an old practice.

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How interesting that this should come about just days after his US and Sarkozy backed replacement at the IMF has been appointed.

I'm sure it is all a coincidence

Sarkozy is hardly likely to want to help DSK.More likely that his agents are behind the original allegations and now want them quietly dropped.

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plus the IMF replacement is still french

god ... why couldn't we have got some slapper to stitch up gordon when he was over there ? ...plenty on here would have chipped in........... allegedly

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plus the IMF replacement is still french

god ... why couldn't we have got some slapper to stitch up gordon when he was over there ? ...plenty on here would have chipped in........... allegedly

he would have enjoyed it too much and wanted to do interview to say he had had sex, the woman would get a super injunction to hide her identity to save any embarasment. and i wouldnt blame her

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he would have enjoyed it too much and wanted to do interview to say he had had sex, the woman would get a super injunction to hide her identity to save any embarasment. and i wouldnt blame her

SSSSSSH! You cant even mention the superinjunction. You're in big trouble now.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/01/dominique-strauss-kahn-court

In extraordinary scenes outside a Manhattan courtroom, the lawyer for Dominique Strauss-Kahn's alleged victim promised the maid would take her cause to the press amid fears that prosecutors might be preparing to drop the case.

Strauss-Kahn, the former head of the International Monetary Fund, was freed from house arrest and had his bail dropped, as it emerged that investigators had discovered his accuser, a 32-year-old Guinean-born maid, had lied about a previous rape claim.

They also uncovered evidence that appeared to cast doubt on key elements of her account, and seemed likely to do deep damage to her credibility as a witness.

But her lawyer, Kenneth Thompson, repeated her account of the assault, including highly graphic details of the alleged sex attack, and said she now wanted to speak out in front of the press. He said there were photographs of the victim's "bruised vagina" and medical evidence of other injuries, and evidence of semen that the victim had spat out into the room. "He grabbed her vagina with so much force he hurt her," he said. "She is going to tell you what Dominique Strauss-Kahn did to her," Thompson said. "The victim will stand before you." He went on to say that her story held up, despite astonishing revelations that she had lied to prosecutors about a whole raft of events, including her movements after the alleged attack and her links to a possible drug dealer, as well as apparent evidence that she was seeking financial gain.

"The only defence that Dominique Strauss-Kahn has is that this sexual encounter was consensual. That is a lie," Thompson said.

To be fair to DSK that can be his only defence as he's admitted to a sexual encounter and there's clearly enough evidence supporting sexual contact happened.

The event occurred without any witnesses present so it's his word against hers. When it comes down to it character becomes all important although that doesn't mean that people who get drug money can't get raped.

Although now it appears to be moving towards her getting a pay off to stay silent. Surely the lawyer has already compromised a trial by his comments here?

Can we now look forward to her vagina being splashed all over the internet?

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http://www.zerohedge.com/article/district-attorney-says-dsk-accuser-admitted-she-lied-grand-jury-about-what-happened-followin

STRAUSS-KAHN ACCUSER ADMITTED SHE LIED TO GRAND JURY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED FOLLOWING PURPORTED ATTACK - D.A.

STRAUSS-KAHN ACCUSER CLEANED ANOTHER ROOM AFTER INCIDENT, CONTRARY TO WHAT SHE TOLD GRAND JURY - NY PROSECUTOR

It's odds on the case will be dropped if this is accurate.

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Since it turns out she admitted that she lied about being gang raped to obtain her immigration visa, she now has a history of false rape accusations. The word of someone with such a history against the word of the head of the IMF, it don't look good for her. DSK is never going to hold high office again so job done.

This is why rape accusations need to be dealt with in secret. Once a guy's name is spread over the newspapers the damage is done.

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http://www.guardian....auss-kahn-court

To be fair to DSK that can be his only defence as he's admitted to a sexual encounter and there's clearly enough evidence supporting sexual contact happened.

The event occurred without any witnesses present so it's his word against hers. When it comes down to it character becomes all important although that doesn't mean that people who get drug money can't get raped.

Although now it appears to be moving towards her getting a pay off to stay silent. Surely the lawyer has already compromised a trial by his comments here?

Can we now look forward to her vagina being splashed all over the internet?

L O f*cking L IRRO. Every now and then you excel yourself.

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DSK is never going to hold high office again so job done.

I wouldn't bet on that. Immediately after his arrest a French opinion poll revealed that something like 70% of of the population believed that he'd been set up. There is talk of him standing for the French presidency now. Knowing the French, I suspect he'd win a lot of support out of anti-American sentiment.

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I expect this farce will be dragged out just long enough to stymie any possibility of DSK standing in the French elections and then it will all be dropped

From what I can determine from the press there appears no doubt sexual contact took place but that alone will not make a sexual assault rap stick if the accuser is a proven liar who can be portrayed as bringing the charge for financial gain.

At the moment she does not appear that credible a witness as it seems

  • She lied on her asylum application (this might be forgiveable on its own)
  • She lied on her tax return to the IRS claiming for a second child that did not exist (a potential crime under US law)
  • She had mysterious payments 'resting' in her bank account at various times upto the value of $100,000 and therefore had access to more ready cash than many US citizens
  • She was an associate of known felons
  • She was keen to exploit the notoriety of the case for financial gain even before Kahn was convicted
  • Her supposed 'brother' was in fact her boyfriend
  • She misled police, prosecutors and the grand jury about the precise course of events immediately after the alleged attack

There was also a rumor in the New York Post that

the alleged victim had asked her superiors if she could replace an absent colleague on the VIP floor — the floor where Strauss-Kahn occupied suite 2806. The veteran chambermaid was not out of the loop insofar as information went: she was a union member, and photographs of celebrity guests were often put up in the maids' changing rooms in the hotel basement.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2080993,00.html

One or two items might be explained away but cumulatively they are pretty deadly to the prosecution particularly if the payments to her bank account were received in the run up to the alleged sexual assault rather than after it ( ie they are not payoffs from the defence). It is therefore almost certain that Kahn will walk free within the next few weeks,

For what its worth I suspect that DSK did not attack the maid but is simply a member of that class of serial womanizer who scores by propositioning women whenever opportunity arises (ie they dont waste their time seducing them with sweet talk, chocolates and flowers but go straight to the point of asking for a f*ck). His sort work on the percentage basis that its worth nine knock backs if one in ten women takes up the offer. It is not admirable behaviour but it certainly does not make him a criminal, Indeed, there are many US politicians who probably have had similar modus operandi including the widely beatified JFK. Unfortunately, for Kahn this type of behaviour is also perfect for those who want to entrap an individual on a sexual assault rap.

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  • She lied on her asylum immigration, making an allegation that she had been gang-raped when she subsequently admitted this was false.
  • She has also admitted she lied about the events of the night in question - initially she stated she had run and hidden following the 'rape' until Mr Strauss-Kahn had left, but she now admits that she had carried on with her cleaning duties, indeed returning to the room in which she claims she was raped and cleaning that too.
  • Also she fraudulently claimed a friend's son was her own in order to get more benefits/tax relief.

All the above came from the prosecution in their disclosure to the defense team.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/07/01/nyregion/20110701-Strauss-Kahn-letter.html?ref=nyregion

It's ridiculous that this fake case hasn't been booted out of court. My betting is they will try to string it along for another two weeks until the French presidential nominations are closed and then once Sarkozy is assured a safe ride back into office, they will drop the case.

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According to an article in the New York Post the chambermaid is alleged to have been a hooker as well.

NY Post article

Although public opinion is defintely on the turn in the USA I am still amazed at the number of posters on some US forums who are adamant that DSK should be convicted (most dont seem to want to bother with the tiresome process of a trial). Apparently the fact he is male, white, wealthy, Jewish and French is enough to condemn him.

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