Si1 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Yeah, that's right... in fact my solid gold shoes prevent me from walking the 1 mile to Morrisons so I choose to send one of my three filipino slaves by skateboard instead. I can't believe you get skateboards for your NHS filipino slaves, that's outrageous taxpayer-funded largesse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 " Note especially that from the end of the second world war into the early 1960s, the highest income earners paid a tax rate over 90% for many years. Today, the top earners pay a rate of only 35%. Note also how the gap between the rates paid by the richest and the poorest has narrowed. Instead, a rather vicious cycle has been at work for years. Reduced taxes on the rich leave them with more money to influence politicians and politics. Their influence wins them further tax reductions, which gives them still more money to put to political use. When the loss of tax revenue from the rich worsens already strained government budgets, the rich press politicians to cut public services and government jobs and not even debate a return to the higher taxes the rich used to pay." http://www.guardian....-public-finance told ya it was fatcher's failt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynardgravy Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I can't believe you get skateboards for your NHS filipino slaves, that's outrageous taxpayer-funded largesse I know, but don't worry, they soon starve to death, thus no pension... hey presto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Barlow Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 ....you have attempted a slight change of subject ...the thread is about official fraud on the taxpayer.... Come on - get a sense of proportion Whilst this is an example of poor decision making it doesn't fall into the category of fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchbux Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Come on - get a sense of proportion Whilst this is an example of poor decision making it doesn't fall into the category of fraud. Surely that depends on who is in receipt of the £40, and whether they are related to anyone making decisions at the PCT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I have hear a rumour that the Guardian will publish any ill-researched, financially illiterate bullsh*t designed to satisfy their reader's natural desire to be driven to the heights of smug sanctimoniousness, and should not be taken seriously by anyone with a public sector salary below 6 figures. That's true too. Well done. And your point is? You aren't actually going to claim that the Daily Fail is a serious organ of Her Majesty's Press are you? It just amuses me that virtually no-one in this particular thread is questioning the veracity or completeness of this story, because it conveniently reinforces their world view - formed in the first place by reading the Daily Fail in some cases suspect. ALL MEDIA HAS AN AGENDA, AND FACTS ARE MERELY OPTIONAL, IN THEIR PURSUIT OF ADVERTISING AND PAID READERSHIP. The Fail says house prices will soar. Better buy now. Hurry! Hurry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 ...your middle name is Ostrich ...and your head is in the sand or the Mirror or the Guardian ....the truth hurts leftie.... Wide of the mark there. Very wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) Come on - get a sense of proportion Whilst this is an example of poor decision making it doesn't fall into the category of fraud. .....that would be a fraudster's defence....believe me...if there is a £40 delivery charge for £2 bag of pasta ...there is fraud somewhere....wouldn't hire you as an auditor or to run the corner sweetie shop.... Edited June 21, 2011 by South Lorne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 The Fail says house prices will soar. Better buy now. Hurry! Hurry! ...link please.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 It just amuses me that virtually no-one in this particular thread is questioning the veracity or completeness of this story, because it conveniently reinforces their world view - formed in the first place by reading the Daily Fail in some cases suspect. ALL MEDIA HAS AN AGENDA, AND FACTS ARE MERELY OPTIONAL, IN THEIR PURSUIT OF ADVERTISING AND PAID READERSHIP. The Fail says house prices will soar. Better buy now. Hurry! Hurry! Yes all the media has an agenda, but if the story isn't complete where's the evidence to counter it? Should be fairly easy to show that it's unsubstantiated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 ...link please.... Noblesse oblige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Noblesse oblige ...loser...I take it you can't deliver.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Barlow Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) .....that would be a fraudster's defence....believe me...if there is a £40 delivery charge for £2 bag of pasta ...there is fraud somewhere....wouldn't hire you as an auditor or to run the corner sweetie shop.... I wouldn't employer you as a lawyer BTW - Im not defending this incompetence - it seems to me a far more cost effective option would be to offer a gluten free alternative such as potatoes, rice or maize. Edited June 21, 2011 by Kurt Barlow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The XYY Man Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 ...loser...I take it you can't deliver.... I can deliver...but it'll cost ya forty quid... XYY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) ...loser...I take it you can't deliver.... Yup, you got me there, the Daily Mail never prints stories ramping house prices. It his highly respected on HPC. On this site, we hang on it's every word for wise analysis, it's uncanny understanding of house prices, and perceptive explanation of the causes of the problem.If you want to see how thoroughly and professionally the Mail checks out easily-verified 'facts' before publishing its retarded drivel articles, check this recent thread. Funny you call me a loser...I just came out of retirement because I was bored and enjoy running my business so much (so much for me being a public sector leftie Grauniad reader). Life has rarely been better for me. The Daily Mail is for whiners who failed to take their careers into their own hands and want to blame everyone else for their dismal waste of their time on earth. The highlight of their tedious day is reading Fred Basset. Now pop on your slippers, light your pipe, and have a nice evening in with your wife as she knits and you sip your Horlicks. Reading about £50 pasta is excitement enough for you for today. Edited June 21, 2011 by happy_renting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erranta Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 ....you have attempted a slight change of subject ...the thread is about official fraud on the taxpayer.... Over the decades the super wealthy whilst accumulating their 'fortunes' used their influence and money to defraud the general UK population by bribing other millionaire Politicians with whom they daily rubbed shoulders to reduce the amount of tax they paid. They got Politicians to stick the lost revenues on the shoulders of poorer taxpayers with no influence or nous in how to influence their beloved elected elites who will govern and promised to look after the populations interests - not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erranta Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Come on - get a sense of proportion Whilst this is an example of poor decision making it doesn't fall into the category of fraud. You reckon you were in pub trade. Same thing - the monetary 'targets' of largest breweries Tie the publicans in and overcharge them for everything - beer, spirits, lemonade and all the other items & constantly put them out of business by overcharging for the monthly rent. The Govt let NHS management agree to these massive overcharges to ultimately make the NHS too expensive, destroy and privatise it. That's why you never hear of total management failure and complacancy till they kill loads of people whilst setting computerised 'targets' for a 'sim city' hospital (instead of using common sense) or someone whistle blows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) You reckon you were in pub trade. Same thing - the monetary 'targets' of largest breweries Tie the publicans in and overcharge them for everything - beer, spirits, lemonade and all the other items & constantly put them out of business by overcharging for the monthly rent. The Govt let NHS management agree to these massive overcharges to ultimately make the NHS too expensive, destroy and privatise it. That's why you never hear of total management failure and complacancy till they kill loads of people whilst setting computerised 'targets' for a 'sim city' hospital (instead of using common sense) or someone whistle blows I have heard estimates that about 30,000 people die per year because the NHS fails to diagnose properly or in time, or treat patients properly. All these deaths are theoretically avoidable and patients treatable. But hey, let's get excited about pasta. Edited June 21, 2011 by happy_renting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I wouldn't employer you as a lawyer ...of course not as I don't agree your ethics... BTW - Im not defending this incompetence - it seems to me a far more cost effective option would be to offer a gluten free alternative such as potatoes, rice or maize. ....yes yes ...we all know about gluten free items and you are avoiding the issue....the chancers are in on a skive ...and you wish to ignore it...strange person.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Yup, you got me there, the Daily Mail never prints stories ramping house prices. It his highly respected on HPC. On this site, we hang on it's every word for wise analysis, it's uncanny understanding of house prices, and perceptive explanation of the causes of the problem. If you want to see how thoroughly and professionally the Mail checks out easily-verified 'facts' before publishing its retarded drivel articles, check this recent thread. Funny you call me a loser...I just came out of retirement because I was bored and enjoy running my business so much (so much for me being a public sector leftie Grauniad reader). Life has rarely been better for me. The Daily Mail is for whiners who failed to take their careers into their own hands and want to blame everyone else for their dismal waste of their time on earth. The highlight of their tedious day is reading Fred Basset. Now pop on your slippers, light your pipe, and have a nice evening in with your wife as she knits and you sip your Horlicks. Reading about £50 pasta is excitement enough for you for today. ...your Ostrich mentality keeps repeating....if you could disprove the story it would be more to the point....nobody mentioned you were a Public Sector worker......by the way ...never had slippers ..or a pipe ...wife doesn't knit ..never drank Horlicks....and your the one who seems over excited about the truth of incompetence abounding in the NHS....don't read the Mail except when quoted on here... ...but obviously you do...avidly...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I have heard estimates that about 30,000 people die per year because the NHS fails to diagnose properly or in time, or treat patients properly. All these deaths are theoretically avoidable and patients treatable. But hey, let's get excited about pasta. ...do you deliver the pasta by any chance....?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I know, but don't worry, they soon starve to death, thus no pension... hey presto. they were private sector contracting Filipino slaves, hence no pension in the first place; I suspect they were just chuffed to get the skateboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boynamedsue Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I'll believe this when another paper takes up this story. I suspect there's factual basis somewhere, but I doubt the true story comes close to what the mail printed. I wonder how long the 50 quid pasta thing went on for, if it ever went on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boynamedsue Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Yup, you got me there, the Daily Mail never prints stories ramping house prices. It his highly respected on HPC. On this site, we hang on it's every word for wise analysis, it's uncanny understanding of house prices, and perceptive explanation of the causes of the problem. If you want to see how thoroughly and professionally the Mail checks out easily-verified 'facts' before publishing its retarded drivel articles, check this recent thread. Funny you call me a loser...I just came out of retirement because I was bored and enjoy running my business so much (so much for me being a public sector leftie Grauniad reader). Life has rarely been better for me. The Daily Mail is for whiners who failed to take their careers into their own hands and want to blame everyone else for their dismal waste of their time on earth. The highlight of their tedious day is reading Fred Basset. Now pop on your slippers, light your pipe, and have a nice evening in with your wife as she knits and you sip your Horlicks. Reading about £50 pasta is excitement enough for you for today. +1 It's not a left and right issue, the Mail lies, and is read by scared, small-minded little people who want somebody else to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoma Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 +1 It's not a left and right issue, the Mail lies, and is read by scared, small-minded little people who want somebody else to blame. Just like the Guardian then. You do know your paper of choice is The Mail for lefties, don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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