timebandit Posted August 10, 2010 Author Share Posted August 10, 2010 "No-one would have believed, in the early years of the twenty-first century, that buy-to-let affairs were being watched from the timeless worlds of hpc.co.uk. No-one could have dreamed that we were being scrutinized, as someone with a microscope studies creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. Few EA's even considered the possibility of earning a living through intellect and endeavor. And yet, across the gulf of Nulab's wealth divide, minds immeasurably superior to ours regarded our "equity" with envious eyes; and slowly, and surely, they drew their plans against us." I'm feeling a bit like a tripod myself after all todays beargasms. Exactly what I had in mind. A updated Jeff Wayne album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatsam Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Pissed off i missed this, hoping to listen on iplayer soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzardo Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 ...and the iplayer is now UP: LINK. Anyone else getting this? I can't seem to get it to work. Is it overloaded with tissue-wielding HPCers, having a bit of a w4nkfest?! If so, budge over - some of the rest of us have tension to relieve as well B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatsam Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Getting the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deflation Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 The poster who gave the link is showing where it will be available, but it isn't yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 LBC is giving it laldy as well. Yeehaaa yep - I got my message read out this morning...managed to get in a bit about the damage caused by high prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 ...and the iplayer is now UP: LINK. Mmmmmm. Plump up the cushions, light a few scented candles, pour a glass of Rioja and press play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric pebble Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 This has been the most wonderful two hours radio I think I've ever sat through... I'm utterly drenched in Bear-spaff. 11/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 11/10 thanks, Eric. I'm still wiping myself down, in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellerkat Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Anyone else getting this? I can't seem to get it to work. Is it overloaded with tissue-wielding HPCers, having a bit of a w4nkfest?! If so, budge over - some of the rest of us have tension to relieve as well B Getting the same. The poster who gave the link is showing where it will be available, but it isn't yet. Now getting this: it's being divided into "chapters" - patience, dear people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deflation Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Stop the panic. There's a Radio 4 program (In Living Memory) that finished at 11:30 am that's not available yet, and it was only 30 mins long and probably pre-recorded. A 2 hr live show may have a longer delay. Patience padawan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric pebble Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Now getting this: it's being divided into "chapters" - patience, dear people! I am getting "Victoria Derbyshire: 10/08/2010 is unavailable at this time." Hmmm......... I just wonder - is there some kind of VI stuff going on right now.... Hmm :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Too much paranoia people - give it a few hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellerkat Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 (edited) I am getting "Victoria Derbyshire: 10/08/2010 is unavailable at this time." Hmmm......... I just wonder - is there some kind of VI stuff going on right now.... Hmm :angry: They're still working on it, Eric - chill! ED: fatfinger. Edited August 10, 2010 by yellerkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwin Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Too much paranoia people - give it a few hours. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tired of Waiting Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Why are peak 2007 prices seen as some kind of HOLY GRAIL?! Exactly! Has to be because of the "house prices always go up" mantra! I think the people's root problem is not being able to differentiate between nominal prices and real prices. Because in the really very long term, in nominal terms, even the 2007 peak may be reached, and surpassed. And they will see only the nominal value. So, the mantra is "true" - for nominal prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tired of Waiting Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 The BBC now knows something we have known for years. Let's hope the current gov lets the market take itself down. They do, by 25% apparently. They are telling the mortgage industry about it. See the news in this thread: http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=147307&view=findpost&p=2624404 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepista Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 They do, by 25% apparently. They are telling the mortgage industry about it. See the news in this thread: http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=147307&view=findpost&p=2624404 The government couldn't see the bubble when it sat on its bum in the front room and dragged itself across leaving a great big brown stain. What makes you think they will be able to so finely control the markets to engineer a perfect 25% crash? how will they manage this throughout the country evenly? My take is that they may aim for 25%, and put "HPC" policies in place, but if this were ever to happen, it would be self-perpetuating, and you'd see a huge overshoot. I'm still placing my money on 50-60% falls from where we are today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Exactly! Has to be because of the "house prices always go up" mantra! I think the people's root problem is not being able to differentiate between nominal prices and real prices. Because in the really very long term, in nominal terms, even the 2007 peak may be reached, and surpassed. And they will see only the nominal value. So, the mantra is "true" - for nominal prices. More so the 'house prices never go down" mantra. My work partner said that so long as his property didn't go down in value nominally, he'd be happy. A strange logic given that inflation will mean it's ultimately 'worth' less in real terms. I think it's part of the stubborn attitude that vendors are currently displaying: " I won't take a penny less than I bought it for..." Fine. Hang onto it for 10 years and sell it for a fiver more. Whoopee, you've made a profit. Of course, deflation may mean that the nominal v real terms equation is somewhat different... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepista Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 (edited) More so the 'house prices never go down" mantra. My work partner said that so long as his property didn't go down in value nominally, he'd be happy. A strange logic given that inflation will mean it's ultimately 'worth' less in real terms. I think it's part of the stubborn attitude that vendors are currently displaying: " I won't take a penny less than I bought it for..." Fine. Hang onto it for 10 years and sell it for a fiver more. Whoopee, you've made a profit. Of course, deflation may mean that the nominal v real terms equation is somewhat different... Why do people never take the mortgage interest payments in to account when they talk about how much their house has made them? ed: spilling Edited August 10, 2010 by Lepista Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tired of Waiting Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 (edited) I went into a panic freefall, beng first-time on the radio. You helped by posting the helpful comment, of how HPI are bad for the British economy. If only I could come across as wooing Richard Burton, narrating on articles from the various threads on here to the public. Rather than a gibbering wreck, at least the message staring to get out on the BBC. Thank you TimeBandit. That message (high property costs are bad for people, and companies), is the most important, but also the most difficult, after years of people feeling richer as their houses went up in prices. That will be a hard one to crack. I think, perhaps if we start saying "housing costs", instead of "house prices", it could help. It reminds people that we all need housing, like shelter: basic need, major part of the cost of living. Perhaps then some would snap out of it, and see it from this other angle, as cost, like food and petrol: better when cheaper, not dearer! Edit: You did fine! Not a "gibbering wreck" at all! I guess you are changing the recollection of it in your own fearful mind there. But I guarantee you that as soon as it comes out in the BBC iPlayer you will be relieved, discretely proud of yourself, and deservedly so. Edited August 10, 2010 by Tired of Waiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedude Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 (edited) . Edited August 10, 2010 by thedude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tired of Waiting Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 We often agonise about the term 'Sheeple' on here. But COME ON! What more evidence do you need? BTW its my Birthday today - how did the BBC know? Happy Birthday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbn Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 . Eh? skimmed through - but nothing on HP's?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedude Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 (edited) I got ahead of myself and thought the iplayer link was live, turns out if you click the little sound icon under Steven Nolan it goes to yesterdays show (when he wasn't on) then do it again it goes back to today's, which is unavailable. Edit, he was on yesterday, but that's not the bearfest we are all seeking Edited August 10, 2010 by thedude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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