ScrewsNutsandBolts Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) As per title... fairly awkward for Cameron but surely great news for UKIP http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30224637 Edited November 27, 2014 by ScrewsNutsandBolts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Great news for landlords too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) The Daily UKIP/immigrants thread! I can remember when HPC was about house prices Edited November 27, 2014 by aSecureTenant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richc Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 The Daily UKIP/immigrants thread! I can remember when HPC was about house prices How is increasing demand for housing not related to house prices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Miyagi Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 How is increasing demand for housing not related to house prices? Apparently if you let in the equivalent of the population of Derby and not increase the housing stock nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble & Squeak Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 quick! get on the ladder now! so many foreigners coming over here taking our homes prices will keep going up and up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyHead Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Why are they always using the Net figure? Essentially it amounts to Government saying "as long as we can get enough Brits to flee the UK, we can keep on letting in half a million per year" ... "then we use the net figure to make it look like only a 1/4 of a Million have come in." Brits leaving is dreadful for our economy. After years of educating, feeding, protecting, and raising them to be good decent law abiding citizens with British values and outlook. The moment they become productive, we lose them. Great! Edited November 27, 2014 by SleepyHead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntb Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 So each year we are building one major city, three hospitals. half a dozen police, ambulance and fire stations, a dozen schools, countless nurseries, shops, restaurants, bus stops and all the rest? Oh wait, we're cramming these people into what we already have. Great, just great. Bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyHead Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 quick! get on the ladder now! so many foreigners coming over here taking our homes prices will keep going up and up! ..and your wages will keep going down.... Never mind we have liar loans to plug the gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble & Squeak Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Why are they always using the Net figure? Essentially it amounts to Government saying "as long as we can get enough Brits to flee the UK, we can keep on letting in half a million per year" ... "then we use the net figure to make it look like only a 1/4 of a Million have come in." Brits leaving is dreadful for our economy. After years of educating, feeding, protecting, and raising them to be good decent law abiding citizens with British values and outlook. The moment they become productive, we lose them. Great! in my experience i've found that the majority of people leaving are immigrants returning home after working in this country for many years paying tax etc. OH NO BUT WE STILL HAVE TO PAY THEIR PENSIONS! this is true but don't forget they will no longer be a burden on our health care system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble & Squeak Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 So each year we are building one major city, three hospitals. half a dozen police, ambulance and fire stations, a dozen schools, countless nurseries, shops, restaurants, bus stops and all the rest? Oh wait, we're cramming these people into what we already have. Great, just great. Bastards. you're swearing, ntb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 The Daily UKIP/immigrants thread! I can remember when HPC was about house prices And what do immigrants make? high house prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble & Squeak Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 ..and your wages will keep going down.... Never mind we have liar loans to plug the gap. i suppose it depends what industry you work in. we have a developed world education system that people can take advantage of if they don't want to compete with romanians and bulgarians in the kitchen porter trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble & Squeak Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 And what do immigrants make? high house prices. are you a daily mail journo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUBanana Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 i suppose it depends what industry you work in. we have a developed world education system that people can take advantage of if they don't want to compete with romanians and bulgarians in the kitchen porter trade. Half the people have an intelligence less than average... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntb Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 you're swearing, ntb Sorry about that. Wouldn't want to give the impression that I'm somewhat vexed about the whole situation. Honestly I'm fine with it and will dutifully keep voting for more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 And what do immigrants make? high house prices. Only in crazy countries where building more homes is resisted a lot. Sadly the UK is a crazy country like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyHead Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 i suppose it depends what industry you work in. we have a developed world education system that people can take advantage of if they don't want to compete with romanians and bulgarians in the kitchen porter trade. I think it affects all industries. The reason there's so much competition in the higher end jobs is because everyone is 'bunched higher up'. Low paid work done by immigrants, forces Brits to have to aim higher. Brits have no choice if they want to buy a home. The EU has essentially restarted the slave trade. It's happening right before our eyes. These immigrants are being exploited. They come thinking they can have a western style life. When they get here they see what the Brits have already worked out. Those low wages will not get you home or a western style lifestyle. In fact you'll be living in worse conditions than back in Romania etc. It's big business and the "management/political class" exploiting cheap labour, pure and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UK Debt Slave Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 The Daily UKIP/immigrants thread! I can remember when HPC was about house prices Where are 260,000 extra people going to live? Are you suggesting this extra demand, year after year, isn't going to increase house prices and rental? If so, you have a catastrophically flawed understanding of basic economics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) As per title... fairly awkward for Cameron but surely great news for UKIP http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30224637 Why are they always using the Net figure? Did you read the article? It gives the gross figure, about 600,000 with non-EU immigration rising. The net figure is important as it gives an idea of how many school places etc you need for planning. As a comparison France is giving around 200,000 residence permits per year (ie for non EU immigrants) and legalizing around 35,000 illegals per year. About 100,000 passports are also issued to non-French citizens. That gives around 300,000 to 350,000 new residents per year (that figure must exclude most EU arrivals probably only a very small percentage would apply for a French passport. Note also a lot of passports will be issued to people who were initially given a residence permit so there will be some duplication of figures). It is also estimated that around 100,000 illegals have crossed the land border with Italy this year although the policy is to move as many as possible on to other destinations such as the UK, asap. Edited November 27, 2014 by davidg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Half the people have an intelligence less than average... Less than the median, not the average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldbug9999 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Half the people have an intelligence less than average... Half the people have a lower than median understanding of statistical measures. Edited November 27, 2014 by goldbug9999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble & Squeak Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Where are 260,000 extra people going to live? Are you suggesting this extra demand, year after year, isn't going to increase house prices and rental? If so, you have a catastrophically flawed understanding of basic economics. you're coming like HAMISH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectrumFX Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 i suppose it depends what industry you work in. we have a developed world education system that people can take advantage of if they people who don't want to compete with romanians and bulgarians in the kitchen porter trade. £9k a year now isn't it? With graduate numbers well above historical norms. Hasn't increasing the number of graduates just lowered the salary for graduate jobs through basic supply and demand? In my lifetime our education system has developed to cost more and be worth less (in terms of remuneration for graduates). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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