myusernameistaken Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, BorrowToLeech said: People celebrating this should really consider why it has been done. The exile of Corbyn is part of a campaign to ensure the continuity of neoliberal government. In other words, to make sure that the next government will not regulate finance, or reign in landlords, or build social housing or make work more lucrative than rent seeking, or any of those things. An establishment campaign to return us to the dreadful Blair era is one step closer to succeeding, and they have done it by subverting our main opposition party and so our entire democracy. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenZ Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Labour party elections results: Lose Lose Lose Blair Blair Blair Lose Lose Lose You can nothing unless your in power, the left just facilities the Tories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Justice League Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, BorrowToLeech said: People celebrating this should really consider why it has been done. The exile of Corbyn is part of a campaign to ensure the continuity of neoliberal government. In other words, to make sure that the next government will not regulate finance, or reign in landlords, or build social housing or make work more lucrative than rent seeking, or any of those things. An establishment campaign to return us to the dreadful Blair era is one step closer to succeeding, and they have done it by subverting our main opposition party and so our entire democracy. 100% agree 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 36 minutes ago, Mandalorian said: Rishi *IS* a Labour PM. He just wears a blue rosette. Sure he is, which is why he's working so hard to address the massively increasing inequality we have in this country /s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocha Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, msi said: Yet you swallow Alexander Boris De'Pfeffel Johnson's being a MaN oF ThE pEoPlE eh? Errrrr...no. Hence why I didn't vote for him or his party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, BorrowToLeech said: People celebrating this should really consider why it has been done. The exile of Corbyn is part of a campaign to ensure the continuity of neoliberal government. In other words, to make sure that the next government will not regulate finance, or reign in landlords, or build social housing or make work more lucrative than rent seeking, or any of those things. An establishment campaign to return us to the dreadful Blair era is one step closer to succeeding, and they have done it by subverting our main opposition party and so our entire democracy. Spot on. Even if he's never given a chance to lead the country - we MUST hear from him. He's a great voice of conscience for society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sackboii Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 24 minutes ago, BorrowToLeech said: Untrue. The majority of people consistently vote for nominally left-wing or centre left parties and that ignores the huge number of disenfranchised. Possibly true and probably because the majority of people get more from the State than they put in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sackboii Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) Nothing to see here, move along now.. Edited February 15, 2023 by Sackboii Double Post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorrowToLeech Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Sackboii said: Possibly true and probably because the majority of people get more from the State than they put in. People who get more from the state than they put in tend to vote Tory - landlords, aristocrats, investment bankers, and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocha Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, jonb2 said: Spot on. Even if he's never given a chance to lead the country - we MUST hear from him. He's a great voice of conscience for society. Well it appears we are able to agree on something.... "Jeremy Corbyn’s spokesperson has confirmed that it is Labour policy to end freedom of movement once the UK leaves the EU." https://labourlist.org/2019/04/labour-confirms-it-wants-to-end-freedom-of-movement/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomberbrown Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, BorrowToLeech said: People celebrating this should really consider why it has been done. The exile of Corbyn is part of a campaign to ensure the continuity of neoliberal government. In other words, to make sure that the next government will not regulate finance, or reign in landlords, or build social housing or make work more lucrative than rent seeking, or any of those things. An establishment campaign to return us to the dreadful Blair era is one step closer to succeeding, and they have done it by subverting our main opposition party and so our entire democracy. Excellently put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sackboii Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, BorrowToLeech said: People who get more from the state than they put in tend to vote Tory - landlords, aristocrats, investment bankers, and so on. Well they certainly have done absolutely nothing to control the swell of Benefit-Britain attitudes for sure. What is needed is something more right of anything any current political party offers. The problem is the tide has turned and now we have too many who stand to lose than those who stand to gain, so Joe Public will vote for more of the same, mores the pity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftb_fml Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Starmer's a pox on the arse of the one party that could / should actually provide a viable ideological alternative the the encumbent scumbags. The way he's treated Corbyn has been utterly disgusting and serves to lay bare what a ruthless, freeloading career-scumbag he is. I'd have loved to have seen Corbyn get a fair crack of the whip; sad to see him so comprehensively stabbed in the back by such a lesser human being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, ftb_fml said: Starmer's a pox on the arse of the one party that could / should actually provide a viable ideological alternative the the encumbent scumbags. The way he's treated Corbyn has been utterly disgusting and serves to lay bare what a ruthless, freeloading career-scumbag he is. I'd have loved to have seen Corbyn get a fair crack of the whip; sad to see him so comprehensively stabbed in the back by such a lesser human being. Erm Corbyn did stand in a GE... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sackboii Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, msi said: Erm Corbyn did stand in a GE... He was the ‘Prime Minister in Waiting’ following the last one, Neil Kinnock. oh wait.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftb_fml Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, msi said: Erm Corbyn did stand in a GE... He did, but hardly under fair circumstances thanks to our bent, Murdoch-led press, and before Starmer comprehensively ousted him. Everything's been loaded against Corbyn from the start; from both within and outside his own party.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Sackboii said: Well they certainly have done absolutely nothing to control the swell of Benefit-Britain attitudes for sure. What is needed is something more right of anything any current political party offers. The problem is the tide has turned and now we have too many who stand to lose than those who stand to gain, so Joe Public will vote for more of the same, mores the pity. ah the solution to the most right wing Government in ages is to shift even more to the right. If only someone said something about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.... Edited February 15, 2023 by msi Fix link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, Cocha said: Well it appears we are able to agree on something.... "Jeremy Corbyn’s spokesperson has confirmed that it is Labour policy to end freedom of movement once the UK leaves the EU." https://labourlist.org/2019/04/labour-confirms-it-wants-to-end-freedom-of-movement/ Ah, still sore from your caning in the Brexit thread I see. Maybe Corbyn simply had the wrong strategy adviser. Having someone who prefers the old Soviet empire to the EU is not really a selling point is it? Corbyn’s Pet Stalinist – Foreign Policy https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/09/dont-underestimate-corbyns-pet-stalinist/ Brexit's been great for workers and the economy hasn't it? So many benefits and opportunities have opened up, I feel quite giddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Just now, ftb_fml said: He did, but hardly under fair circumstances thanks to our bent, Murdoch-led press, and before Starmer comprehensively ousted him. Everything's been loaded against Corbyn from the start; from both within and outside his own party.. Now that is a different discussion as to why we can't have an honest discussion around political ideologies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sackboii said: He was the ‘Prime Minister in Waiting’ following the last one, Neil Kinnock. oh wait.. The same could be said for Wiliam Hague, Iain Duncan-Smith, and Michael Howard. Your point is??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sackboii Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, msi said: ah the solution to the the most right wing Government in ages is to shift even more to the right. If only someone said something about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.... A common misconception. Often, (and more often than not) a system needs a significant enough input disturbance to affect outcomes. What we’ve had for the last 25 years is too much in the way of inaction so as not to upset any particular minority, at the expense of the majority. The problems this country now faces won’t be solved by pussyfooting around doing very little to try and keep the majority of minority groups happy because you can’t please all of the people all of the time. We need strong leadership and actions, which will involve many very unpopular decisions. I can’t see it happening as I believe it’s all too little too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sackboii Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, msi said: Your point is??? He was convinced he’d win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoi Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, jonb2 said: Spot on. Even if he's never given a chance to lead the country - we MUST hear from him. He's a great voice of conscience for society. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3424061/Jeremy-Corbyn-showed-naked-Diane-Abbott-pictures-impress-Left-wing-activist-friends-breakdown-marriage.html Someone who thinks Diane Abbott with her bush out is a great voice of the UK. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocha Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, jonb2 said: Ah, still sore from your caning in the Brexit thread I see. Maybe Corbyn simply had the wrong strategy adviser. Having someone who prefers the old Soviet empire to the EU is not really a selling point is it? Corbyn’s Pet Stalinist – Foreign Policy https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/09/dont-underestimate-corbyns-pet-stalinist/ Brexit's been great for workers and the economy hasn't it? So many benefits and opportunities have opened up, I feel quite giddy. I'm not the sore one chap, it's you remainers circle jerking yourselves to death in there, trying to help each other cope with your inabilities to accept you didn't get your own way nearly 7 years ago now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sackboii Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Just now, TerryBoi said: Someone who thinks Diane Abbott with her bush out is a great voice of the UK. Don’t you fancy her ? 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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