LC1 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 In my opinion the most shocking examples are not from big films where even the poorer actors have redeeming features of some kind (pretty faces, big muscles etc.), but from tv dramas and the like. It is here where good solid actors seem to get routinely overlooked in favour of celeb luvvie types who are well known but with minimal talent (unsurprisingly, old Aunty Beeb is frequently guilty of this kind of behaviour). A good example would be David Walliams. He was bearable as a comedy actor in Little Britain (just), but suddenly it seems as though people think that he can actually act (he can't). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 In my opinion the most shocking examples are not from big films where even the poorer actors have redeeming features of some kind (pretty faces, big muscles etc.), but from tv dramas and the like. It is here where good solid actors seem to get routinely overlooked in favour of celeb luvvie types who are well known but with minimal talent (unsurprisingly, old Aunty Beeb is frequently guilty of this kind of behaviour). A good example would be David Walliams. He was bearable as a comedy actor in Little Britain (just), but suddenly it seems as though people think that he can actually act (he can't). He was very good in the Frankie Howerd biopic (IMHO) but I haven't seen him in any other straight drama; maybe the part just suited him then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC1 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 He was very good in the Frankie Howerd biopic (IMHO) but I haven't seen him in any other straight drama; maybe the part just suited him then. Didn't see it, but I can see why he was cast fot that as he does look/act a bit like the young Frankie Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTMark Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Nicholas Cage and William Shatner both have the ability to render almost anything completely unwatchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Nicholas Cage and William Shatner both have the ability to render almost anything completely unwatchable. It is worth having a read of Shatner's wikipedia page - assuming that he has not written it himself there is some impressive theatre work listed there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shatner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTMark Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Shatner's acting mystifies me, since it has got progressively worse over the years; the earlier episodes of Star Trek are watchable, he's fairly pedestrian, nothing special. The Star Trek films have never been very good anyway, all sort of six-out-of-ten type affairs, but his presence in them turns something that's meant to be a sci-fi into a few fun days out for Shatner who at least seems to be enjoying himself. I'm surprised he didn't try to put himself forward for the lead role in "I Am Legend". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Shatner's acting mystifies me, since it has got progressively worse over the years; the earlier episodes of Star Trek are watchable, he's fairly pedestrian, nothing special. The Star Trek films have never been very good anyway, all sort of six-out-of-ten type affairs, but his presence in them turns something that's meant to be a sci-fi into a few fun days out for Shatner who at least seems to be enjoying himself. I'm surprised he didn't try to put himself forward for the lead role in "I Am Legend". I think he is a great actor because I have concluded that he is actually Denny Crane in real life and that William Shatner is his acting persona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectrumFX Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Shatner's acting mystifies me, since it has got progressively worse over the years; the earlier episodes of Star Trek are watchable, he's fairly pedestrian, nothing special. The Star Trek films have never been very good anyway, all sort of six-out-of-ten type affairs, but his presence in them turns something that's meant to be a sci-fi into a few fun days out for Shatner who at least seems to be enjoying himself. I'm surprised he didn't try to put himself forward for the lead role in "I Am Legend". Shattner's musical efforts are presented today as an obvious joke, but when he released The Transformed Man in 1968 I think he was deadly serious. Personally I think it's awesome, but I suspect that you probably wouldn't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTMark Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I've got past the first track which appears to consist of Shatner bumptiously shouting Shakespeare-esque epithets set to the incidental music from the Star Trek series. The second one reminds me of some of my hypnosis recordings, a bit like "Where the Wild Roses Grow" (Cave/Minogue I think). The third one saw me turning it off. I hear it as a novelty record, not as something serious. But then isn't that the point of the man - he's never "serious". He seems to only ever play one part, like Jeff Goldblum. Tom Cruise got a mention earlier, and he's much the same in every film, though deserves credit for that courtroom performance in "A Few Good Men". Likewise Nicholson has had a mention. And here they are giving outstanding performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turned Out Nice Again Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Shattner's musical efforts are presented today as an obvious joke, but when he released The Transformed Man in 1968 I think he was deadly serious. Personally I think it's awesome, but I suspect that you probably wouldn't like it. Stiil my favourite Shatner: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 He had this pretty awful fake moustache in a Columbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nuggets Mahoney Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 My favourite Shatner moment is him reciting the lyrics of Common People as a duet with Joe Jackson on the Letterman Show. Now sadly, disappeared from Youtube edit: yay! Shatner's acting mystifies me, since it has got progressively worse over the years; the earlier episodes of Star Trek are watchable, he's fairly pedestrian, nothing special. The Star Trek films have never been very good anyway, all sort of six-out-of-ten type affairs, but his presence in them turns something that's meant to be a sci-fi into a few fun days out for Shatner who at least seems to be enjoying himself. I'm surprised he didn't try to put himself forward for the lead role in "I Am Legend". Wrath of Khan dude, an almost perfect toasted ham sandwich of a movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 We all know that Shatner (Kirk, basically), is just brilliant. Top actor and great personality. We will miss him when he goes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Turned Out Nice Again Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Bah! I'd like to Sir John Gielgud pull off this scene: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Obligatory image whenever mention is made of James T. Kirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Bah! I'd like to Sir John Gielgud pull off this scene: I was reading up only last week about the actor playing the dwarf in this - Michael Dunn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Dunn_%28actor%29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turned Out Nice Again Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I was reading up only last week about the actor playing the dwarf in this - Michael Dunn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Dunn_%28actor%29 Decent singer among other talents. Only 38 when he died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I don't know any actors.......not watched a film for years......am I the only one? try the bbc politics channel , many actors there rather convincing performances too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Sutton Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Shattner's musical efforts are presented today as an obvious joke, but when he released The Transformed Man in 1968 I think he was deadly serious. Personally I think it's awesome, but I suspect that you probably wouldn't like it. Loved his version of Common people. Than again, much like a lot of Jarvis Cocker, it's more talking than singing and Joe Jackson does the real singing bit. I'm a fan of Ben Fold's Five which also helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Shatner could have made an amazing Henry V. Just imagine him in a Henry V film doing the St. Crispin's day speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Obligatory image whenever mention is made of James T. Kirk. Always a good one. I have seen that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Whilst having a read of one of the links posted on here I somehow ended up at this fascinating blog article by an actor who has been an extra in loads of films and TV series. It is a very interesting insight into the life of being an extra in LA. I enjoyed reading it and thought it was worthwhile posting the link here. https://ralphm1999.wordpress.com/2013/09/20/on-set-a-day-in-the-life-of-an-extrabackground-actor-in-the-1950s/#comment-2217 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Mirror Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Al Pacino, OK in Carlittos Way, awful in Heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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