Is It Time To Open Another `bakedbean` Thread Again?

[council dweller]

Well, a few years ago this site had various threads with members posting tips on survival.

These died the death a few years ago. (I`ve still got a couple of bags of old pasta!)

Given that the situation is worse now what with China, Russia and the EU etc all in deep sh1t should we revive these threads?

Please note.....as we seem to be heading into deflation this is a slightly different ball game.

[@contradevian]

Probably no need to hoard oil, its getting cheaper

[19 year mortgage 8itch]

Probably no need to hoard oil, its getting cheaper

I'm not going to go to work next week, I'm waiting till the week after to fill up the car when petrol has got cheaper.

[council dweller]

Yes that`s another thing, no hoarding oil.

But surely there must be some we must do, we can`t sit around with dumb expressions on our faces (see Osborne yesterday)

Edit.....my old man used to talk about the 30`s. I just cant remember what he said though!

[TwoWolves]

The whole QE party was an attempt by the elite to put off the baked-bean day of reckoning and I think its now clear that it was a glorious waste of time.

Most of us said that at the time, but what do we know - internet nutters that you love to scorn.

[oracle]

Well, a few years ago this site had various threads with members posting tips on survival.

These died the death a few years ago. (I`ve still got a couple of bags of old pasta!)

Given that the situation is worse now what with China, Russia and the EU etc all in deep sh1t should we revive these threads?

Please note.....as we seem to be heading into deflation this is a slightly different ball game.

because you only SEEM to be heading into deflation.

while the likes of nestle etc are selling you 10% less goods in the same size box,for the same price, that in my book is not deflation.

enjoy the lull while it lasts.

supply crunch is right around the corner....kinda 1973 iranian oil crisis on steroids.

..these guys really like to milk it thous, just as you all were getting used to cheap oil, along comes the spider and throws it all into the mix.

of course nobody saw it coming.

personally anyone with ME oil-based investments needs their head read.

Petrobras way more stable...even venezuela more stable.

[council dweller]

Yep, we SEEM to be going into deflation.

Btw, I`m one of those who only spend money at Aldi, things really are that bad for me.

[Jason]

Have you seen that program "extreme couponing" .. you would love that!

Yes, too much day time TV for me this week!

[justthisbloke]

I'm a food[1] stasher too. Feel very twitchy if stocks run low. This isn't an investment strategy, it's a psychological condition.

[1] Actually, an everything stasher. AA batteries? Top shelf in the garage - about 200. Garden spade? Two spares in the tool shed. Next to the two spare garden forks. Chainsaw oil? How many litres do you want?

[chronyx]

because you only SEEM to be heading into deflation.

while the likes of nestle etc are selling you 10% less goods in the same size box,for the same price, that in my book is not deflation.

enjoy the lull while it lasts.

supply crunch is right around the corner....kinda 1973 iranian oil crisis on steroids.

I agree with your analysis there. Well made.

[council dweller]

Yes well, I gave away my 28 inch TV 10 years ago, I`ve just used a laptop since then.

I`m totally bemused by people buying wide screen TVs.in 2014.....

[stormymonday_2011]

Yes well, I gave away my 28 inch TV 10 years ago, I`ve just used a laptop since then.

I`m totally bemused by people buying wide screen TVs.in 2014.....

I have never understood the logic of people buying 55 inch plus televisions when most of their viewing seems to consists of soaps, the X factor, quizzes and dross like the One show.

With regard to stocking up for disaster I am reminded of a scene from the book Flashman at the Charge where the eponymous anti hero takes Queen Victorias nephew on a luxury shopping trip to kit them both out for the upcoming Crimean campaign. After buying the finest food and booze London could supply Flashman final stop was to buy a box of hard tack biscuits

Last of all I insisted on a lead box of biscuits – and Willie cried out with laughter.

‘They are ship’s biscuits – what should we need those for?’

‘Insurance, my lad.’ says I. ‘Take ’em along, and it’s odds you’ll never need them. Leave ’em behind, and as sure as shooting you’ll finish up living off blood-stained snow and dead mules.’ It’s God’s truth, too.

[juvenal]

I'm a food[1] stasher too. Feel very twitchy if stocks run low. This isn't an investment strategy, it's a psychological condition.

[1] Actually, an everything stasher. AA batteries? Top shelf in the garage - about 200. Garden spade? Two spares in the tool shed. Next to the two spare garden forks. Chainsaw oil? How many litres do you want?

Have you ever tried to wear out a garden spade? I use a Victorian one...

[dances with sheeple]

I'm a food[1] stasher too. Feel very twitchy if stocks run low. This isn't an investment strategy, it's a psychological condition.

[1] Actually, an everything stasher. AA batteries? Top shelf in the garage - about 200. Garden spade? Two spares in the tool shed. Next to the two spare garden forks. Chainsaw oil? How many litres do you want?

Why? If you are in a built up area? and it goes Mad Max, people will steal your supplies, you need an exit strategy (Car fuelled and ready to go to a remote area) and the ability to acquire ( a buried stash maybe?) or hunt food.

[FallingAwake]

I've been stocking up on the 4 for £1 tinned tomatoes in Sainsbury's whenever they are on offer. I have about a gazillion in my cupboard so in the event of a nuclear holocaust I would still be able to make spaghetti bolognese .

That's assuming there are enough bits of you left, in that scenario.

[Starla]

100 things to go first when TSHTF. Looks like baked beans rock in at no.60. I'm not sure why a whisk is at 8? Last thing I'd be doing is some whisking.

http://survivalcache.com/top-100-items-to-dissappear-first/

1. Generators
2. Water Filter/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps, Lanterns
6. Camp Stove Fuel – Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice – Beans – Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid
13. Water Containers
14. Mini Heater head (Without this item, propane won’t heat a room.)
15. Grain Grinders (Non-electric)
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Lantern Mantels
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Propane Cookstove
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear / Polypropylene
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk – Powdered & Condensed
32. Garden Seeds
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers
34. Coleman’s Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First Aid Kit
38. Batteries
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests
45. Workboots, belts, jeans & durable shirts
46. Flashlights, Lightsticks, torches, Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks
48. Garbage cans Plastic
49. Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash, floss
50. Cast Iron Cookware
51. Fishing Gear/Tools
52. Mosquito Coils
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Stews
61. Bleach
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles…Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Boy Scout Handbook
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. “Survival-in-a-Can”
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Reading glasses
81. Window Insulation Kit
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress’s
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens

[justthisbloke]

Have you ever tried to wear out a garden spade? I use a Victorian one...

Tools for the slaves I plan to capture to work my land.

Or rather, I think it was a two-for-one offer which appealed to both my frugality and stash-mania.

[justthisbloke]

Why? If you are in a built up area? and it goes Mad Max, people will steal your supplies, you need an exit strategy (Car fuelled and ready to go to a remote area) and the ability to acquire ( a buried stash maybe?) or hunt food.

It's not deep countryside but it's not hugely built up here. And I have an acre or so of garden so tools are always handy.

Besides, my tendency to stash is not driven by apocalyptic fear (I plan to die like everyone else when the meteor strikes) but is a combination of inflation-avoiding alpha strategy and prudence against bad weather, supermarket supply chain disruptions, etc.

[winkie]

Probably no need to hoard oil, its getting cheaper

There is oil and there is oil....olive oil?

[winkie]

Yes well, I gave away my 28 inch TV 10 years ago, I`ve just used a laptop since then.

I`m totally bemused by people buying wide screen TVs.in 2014.....

I can never understand why anyone would want big heads in their rooms that are larger than a normal sized head.....far to instrusive and overpowering.

[Guest eight]

The whole QE party was an attempt by the elite to put off the baked-bean day of reckoning and I think its now clear that it was a glorious waste of time.

If you died in the last six years you're really ahead of the game though.

[SarahBell]

So what does deflation mean in terms of future planning?

[happy_renting]

I think that Just In Time has introduced a new global vulnerability over the past 30 years.

Businesses avoid holding large inventories. The stability of the supply chain is crucial.

Any disruptions to supply of goods could have a rapidly cascading effect.

[Gigantic Purple Slug]

So what does deflation mean in terms of future planning?

If you put off buying your emergency stash until next month, it will be cheaper.

[Gigantic Purple Slug]

100 things to go first when TSHTF. Looks like baked beans rock in at no.60. I'm not sure why a whisk is at 8? Last thing I'd be doing is some whisking.

http://survivalcache.com/top-100-items-to-dissappear-first/

1. Generators

2. Water Filter/Purifiers

3. Portable Toilets

4. Seasoned Firewood.

5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps, Lanterns

6. Camp Stove Fuel – Impossible to stockpile too much.

7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.

8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.

9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar

10. Rice – Beans – Wheat

11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled)

12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid

13. Water Containers

14. Mini Heater head (Without this item, propane won’t heat a room.)

15. Grain Grinders (Non-electric)

16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.

17. Survival Guide Book.

18. Lantern Mantels

19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.

20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)

21. Propane Cookstove

22. Vitamins

23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder

24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.

25. Thermal underwear / Polypropylene

26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)

27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty

28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)

29. Garbage Bags

30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels

31. Milk – Powdered & Condensed

32. Garden Seeds

33. Clothes pins/line/hangers

34. Coleman’s Pump Repair Kit

35. Tuna Fish (in oil)

36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)

37. First Aid Kit

38. Batteries

39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies

40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)

41. Flour, yeast & salt

42. Matches

43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators

44. Insulated ice chests

45. Workboots, belts, jeans & durable shirts

46. Flashlights, Lightsticks, torches, Lanterns

47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks

48. Garbage cans Plastic

49. Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash, floss

50. Cast Iron Cookware

51. Fishing Gear/Tools

52. Mosquito Coils

53. Duct Tape

54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes

55. Candles

56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)

57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags

58. Garden tools & supplies

59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies

60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Stews

61. Bleach

62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)

63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel

64. Bicycles…Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc

65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats

66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)

67. Board Games, Cards, Dice

68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer

69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets

70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)

71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap

72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.

73. Shaving supplies

74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)

75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase

76. Boy Scout Handbook

77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)

78. “Survival-in-a-Can”

79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens

80. Reading glasses

81. Window Insulation Kit

82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky

83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts

84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)

85. Lumber (all types)

86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)

87. Cots & Inflatable mattress’s

88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.

89. Lantern Hangers

90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts

91. Teas

92. Coffee

93. Cigarettes

94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)

95. Paraffin wax

96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.

97. Chewing gum/candies

98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)

99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs

100. Goats/chickens

Don't rate that list much. As a weapon of choice I would probably go for a crossbow rather than guns and ammo. Reason is a good stock of bolts should last you forever, and it is relatively unskilled to use unlike a normal bow, so doubles for hunting and defence.

I see there are no antibiotics on the list, and why would you want a generator when just about everything else on the list is non electric ?