iamnumerate Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Strange how demand for accomodation becomes very elastic when you have to pay for it with your own, hard earned money. Maybe they should try that with social housing? Very good idea, then people who pay for it with their own money might find it a bit cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Employed Youth Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 What about parents moving in with their kids. The way thing are going in the UK we will have 'sofa surfing subsidy' soon. And hep to sofa surf, where the government give you a free bus pass, and a pen so you can travel to and sign a credit agreement at DFS and get a shared ownership mortgage for a sofa to surf on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy soy Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Exactly. Once was enough. And what of my child? Or the children of our generation? We can't have every generation living in boomer homes because they want to be paper millionaires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btl_hater Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Increasingly these parents will be boomers and who'd want to move back in with them? A copy of the Express or Daily Mail landing on the mat every morning may be a nice bonus to some people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I see your point, but the only 2 problems are that, firstly, these people aren't choosing to live with their parents and secondly, this situation wasn't normal just one generation ago. Some people's parents are dead, especially if we're looking at 44 year olds moving back in with the rents. Also, some people's parents are horrible people and moving back in is off the cards or divorced and downsized with no spare capacity. And then there's the issue of age related care? Houses being sold to pay for care. Your standard of living being based on what if any assets your parents have sounds pretty backwards to me. Some people are born with brains some aren't...some are born with disabilities, some aren't....some are born with parents, some don't.....once if you couldn't look after yourself your family cared for you......now far too many expect the state to be their parents, they are entitled to this and that, a bedroom for each boy and girl......personal responsibility has been transferred to being someone else's responsibly not their own....and that is how it now stands....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northerner Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 It's only going to work if they all go to bed at the same time and shout 'goodnight' to each other in turn ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 ..now far too many expect the state to be their parents If making yourself dependant on the state pays better than working, then people will do that. I know someone who is a primary school teacher her wage is less than the benefit cap which is a bit depressing. Fortunately by the time her pupils leave school, the benefit cap will be a lot lower than it is now, so for them studying is a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Allegro Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Again, this is just another story where people don't even realise the basic fact that they're poorer than their parents generation, let alone understand the reasons for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renting til I die Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Nice try, but they lose major wail points for failing to mention the supposed value of the parents' homes. LOL That's got to be a first for the Wail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) The shame is with the evil and wicked LibLabCon policies. Edited October 13, 2014 by billybong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) The shame is with the evil and wicked LibLabCon policies. Yes I agree 100% and of course people who are anti any control of immigration or moving pro single parents out of London and anti any new homes being built near them. Edited October 14, 2014 by iamnumerate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Like the incongruous nature of a modern looking woman putting up with the 1980s décor and furniture of her 1980s bedroom for seven whole years...a riot of floral wallpaper, purple curtains, a purple rug and a wall unit that even the local charity shop would turn down. Thinking about it, I like this woman; the fact that this stuff doesn't bother her makes her refreshingly different imo. Couldn't cope with it myself mind. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/1980s-ugliest-decade_n_4179811.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver surfer Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Again, this is just another story where people don't even realise the basic fact that they're poorer than their parents generation, let alone understand the reasons for it. +1 I agree, but it's puzzling why so many are struggling to grasp this. Half the population are gawping at the world with confused and angry expressions, not understanding why living the life they expected is proving so difficult and elusive. But the answer is as plain as a pike staff...you're just poorer than your parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 +1 I agree, but it's puzzling why so many are struggling to grasp this. Half the population are gawping at the world with confused and angry expressions, not understanding why living the life they expected is proving so difficult and elusive. But the answer is as plain as a pike staff...you're just poorer than your parents. The belief that the cheap consumer goods, advances in technology (not least the internet) etc. and University education for anyone that wants to go somehow make life better for young people today. Scraps off the table, however, compared to job security, the ability to buy a house at three times salary and free further education that was previously enjoyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Where one wage used to do....two wages now to do what one wage used to do.....lose one what is there to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Allegro Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The belief that the cheap consumer goods, advances in technology (not least the internet) etc. and University education for anyone that wants to go somehow make life better for young people today. Scraps off the table, however, compared to job security, the ability to buy a house at three times salary and free further education that was previously enjoyed. I've mentioned this before but all the ways in which we are poorer than we used to be have been very cleverly masked. Eg, the fact that both husband and wife have to go out to work is considered a triumph of feminism and 'equal opportunities'; long commutes by car are pushed by advertisers as a way of showing off your vehicle and enjoying your 'personal space,' credit cards and debt are seen as just another form of wealth; long working hours are seen as a way of showing how important and indispensable you are; high house prices show that you have 'built up equity in your home' etc etc. It makes me sick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I've mentioned this before but all the ways in which we are poorer than we used to be have been very cleverly masked. Eg, the fact that both husband and wife have to go out to work is considered a triumph of feminism and 'equal opportunities'; long commutes by car are pushed by advertisers as a way of showing off your vehicle and enjoying your 'personal space,' credit cards and debt are seen as just another form of wealth; long working hours are seen as a way of showing how important and indispensable you are; high house prices show that you have 'built up equity in your home' etc etc. It makes me sick! Yes, not very healthy at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 +1 I agree, but it's puzzling why so many are struggling to grasp this. Half the population are gawping at the world with confused and angry expressions, not understanding why living the life they expected is proving so difficult and elusive. But the answer is as plain as a pike staff...you're just poorer than your parents. I think most of GenY have sussed this pretty well, it's the Xers who are confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronyx Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Maybe slightly off topic, but this set me thinking on the assertions I see that the younger generation have given up. Do the people that write this, think that giving up is an option? They/us, haven't given up at all, but renting or even a room in a non-family house just is not an option, if we want to save, have interests, hobbies, and live for anything other than work->home->eat->sleep->repeat. If I 'give up' sooner or later I get kicked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19 year mortgage 8itch Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Maybe slightly off topic, but this set me thinking on the assertions I see that the younger generation have given up. Do the people that write this, think that giving up is an option? They/us, haven't given up at all, but renting or even a room in a non-family house just is not an option, if we want to save, have interests, hobbies, and live for anything other than work->home->eat->sleep->repeat. If I 'give up' sooner or later I get kicked out. Well spotted. And they wonder why we're depressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronyx Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Well spotted. And they wonder why we're depressed. Yeah, I turn 30 next month and starting to struggle with my situation now, quite frankly. That post was a little bit of a vent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePiltdownMan Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Biggest mistake was not getting pregnant while they had the chance, then they'd be set for the foreseeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronyx Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Biggest mistake was not getting pregnant while they had the chance, then they'd be set for the foreseeable. Being born male seems to be have been my 'mistake' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I think most of GenY have sussed this pretty well, it's the Xers who are confused. Gen Y are still in the Hedonism of youth. Wait 5 - 10 years. Doubt they'll be so easily accepting of their situation then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Being born male seems to be have been my 'mistake' I do feel sorry for you, I only just got a house (got on the ladder in 2001 when it was expensive but cheap compared to today). The really depressing thing is that a lot of people think this is a good state of affairs. I am beginning to hope that my 6 year old son can emigrate to a country, where people want their children to be able to buy a home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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