Si1 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I'm all in favour of liberalising planning, but I cannot see the need to compulsorily purchase golf courses. The housing shortage could be solved overnight if we built a relatively few houses within every single town and village in the country. Large developments of slave boxes on gold course or any other land is not the solution to providing housing that people want. These developments only provide housing that people tolerate. Who said anything about compulsory purchase? If planning permission were granted they'd sell the land, or part of it, in a jiffy Including sections on the edge of existing towns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyme2 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Vince cable, what's he got to do with anything Washed up economist turned politician - i.e. professional liar - talked about brown's debt ridden polcies and then pursues them once past the ballot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I live in Surrey (questioning getting out now as I am well priced out). I have been in a rented place for a few years. Last year there was a open council commitee to discuss proposals for building on a patch of land, just off an A road that is an unused field that backs onto somewood. A lot of the locals (who already own houses of course) were deeply against it. They were their first and its where their labradors took a dump each morning before galvating into the woodland. I stood up and mentioned that as someone local with a young family, the housing would be very helpful to those of us yet to have our own property within the local area... I kid you not, they all turned round and looked at me like scum with a look of total disdain. Jeez. My sympathies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Of course the problem is that we will then concrete over all of the UK and then where will we be .... plus other such nonsense, housing takes up .... wait for it .... 1.2% of the UK. Yes one point two percent and 9% is urban. There is no shortage of land only a shortage of lane with 'planning permission' and that is political and controlled by the 1%. No reason why we can't DOUBLE the number of houses in UK. Also there are rows and rows of empty houses (could be redeveloped) in the North but no jobs. Instead everything is centered on London. I think you'll find that forcing pensioners into prostitution is not the way forward and that's the inevitable result of building on golf courses. You whipper snappers think you know the price of everything but I can sure you in no certain terms young man that you know the value if nothing. Imagine, forcing children to eat dog poo, that's what it will lead to! Think of the wildlife man!. You should take a look in the mirror! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 And you think doubling the number of houses wouldn't be very, very noticable? I get rather sick of people saying "It's only x%" (in this case apparently only the land the house itself sits on and not everything else that goes with them), as if because the number is a little one it's irrelevent. Try having 1.2% of the pixels on your screen dead and you'll find it very, very annoying. Sure, you could easily fit that number of houses in but anyone pretending that wouldn't make the place rather more unpleasant is utterly deluded. Oh no not the number of pixels in my screen argument! Well you've just won now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gf3 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 The nimby's will fight this tooth and nail. That's why I am against it. I don't want another golf war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northerner Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Can't we just build on golf courses to save us all from golf? Some people enjoy it ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifes a game Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 the golf course around here is built on a landfill... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corruption Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Some people enjoy it ... That is funny, he seems determined to get into the 19th hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 When it comes to the crunch Vince is all soundbite and no trousers. looking for the swing vote of course....tee hee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash4781 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Build on land to solve the housing problem ? Well I don't think the state owns any golf courses or do they ? Local authorities owning golf courses anf leasing out could be possible. School playing fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northerner Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 When it comes to the crunch Vince is all soundbite and no trousers. You are getting your Liberals mixed up ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivingWithTheInlaws Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 You'd have thought that building on a Golf course would make much more money for the land owner than running a golf course and therefore that would take care of the situation on it's own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19 year mortgage 8itch Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 looking for the swing vote of course....tee hee. +4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 +4 Vince is a clubbable fellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 You'd have thought that building on a Golf course would make much more money for the land owner than running a golf course and therefore that would take care of the situation on it's own. Exactly All about planning permission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Who said anything about compulsory purchase? If planning permission were granted they'd sell the land, or part of it, in a jiffy Including sections on the edge of existing towns Guilty. Golfers/golf courses drive me to take extreme positions. All golfers have V8 gas guzzlers so can easily pop to Scotland or Spain if they feel the need to privatise the land to hit a little ball in the long grass with a bit of metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Vince is a clubbable fellow. comes across a bit rough sometimes, but a bit green on others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 All golfers have V8 gas guzzlers so can easily pop to Scotland or Spain if they feel the need to privatise the land to hit a little ball in the long grass with a bit of metal. You've never actually been to a golf club have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 You've never actually been to a golf club have you? Sadly, I have. I try hard not to repeat the experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Sadly, I have. I try hard not to repeat the experience. In which case you'll know that the vast bulk of the players there are ordinary working people who don't drive V8 gas guzzlers or have the time to drive up to Scotland to play. Also, in the event that they did start building on golf courses it'd be the ordinary Joe's pay and play courses that got concreted over, the elite's country clubs would escape untouched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE10 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Podcast of a debate where Vince talks about house prices (in the style like back when he was a HPC hero, based on the first few minutes I've heard so far) and LVT. Best to download rather than stream I found and the film they are talking about is The Taxing Question Of Land (not watched it yet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobfant Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 In which case you'll know that the vast bulk of the players there are ordinary working people who don't drive V8 gas guzzlers or have the time to drive up to Scotland to play. Also, in the event that they did start building on golf courses it'd be the ordinary Joe's pay and play courses that got concreted over, the elite's country clubs would escape untouched. You've obviously never been to a Surrey golf course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormymonday_2011 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) You've obviously never been to a Surrey golf course. You have probably not been to any of the northern municipal courses built on old slag heaps and ex council tips. In fact you would almost certainly not want to live in a house built on some of the UKs golf courses if you knew what lay inches under the surface of some of them http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/11236546.Council_facing___3_5m_bill_to_remove_waste_at_Waterstock_Golf_Club/ http://www.golfecology.co.uk/articles/landfill.html Edited October 8, 2014 by stormymonday_2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libspero Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 They already built on most of the school playing fields.. this seems a pretty natural progression of where we are headed. I presume Vince is long golf clubs.. A lot of people should stand to make a tidy profit on the change of use, in fact many canny investors are probably putting in planning applications for golf courses as we speak! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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