interestrateripoff Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2511221/BREAKING-NEWS-Two-people-arrested-woman-rescued-house-allegedly-kept-slave-30-years.html A woman allegedly held as a slave for 30 years has been 'rescued' from a house in south London, Scotland Yard has said.Two suspects, a man and woman both aged 67, arrested in slavery investigation in the capital. The Met said the discovery came after an investigation into slavery and domestic servitude led them there. I wonder if this is going to be an horrific story, a slave for 30 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 It is 3 women now. Staggering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2511221/BREAKING-NEWS-Two-people-arrested-woman-rescued-house-allegedly-kept-slave-30-years.html I wonder if this is going to be an horrific story, a slave for 30 years! The couple would have been late 30s so how old was this woman when it started. Time will tell. This must make the hearts skip a beat of everyone who has had a daughter, sister or even a mother disappear over the past 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starla Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 These stories are just the worst. More worrying is that there are without doubt thousands more people like this held captive all the time and some will never be free or known about. Report says the women are highly traumatised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25040741 Last month officers were contacted by Freedom Charity after it received a call from a woman saying she had been held against her will for decades.A Malaysian woman, 69, an Irish woman, 57, and a British woman, 30, were all rescued from the house, police said. The women, who are said to be "highly traumatised", are now in safe accommodation. .. Aneeta Prem, founder of Freedom Charity, told Sky News the alleged victims were able to walk out of the house after receiving help from the charity. She said: "We started in-depth to talks to them when they could. It had to be pre-arranged. They gave us set times when they were able to speak to us. "It was planned that they would be able to walk out of the property. The police were on standby." The two people who were arrested were considered the "heads of the family", Ms Prem said, adding that the rescued women felt they were in "massive danger" and were "absolutely terrified". I'm slightly puzzled as to why the house wasn't raided? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectors House Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Women 'held as slaves for 30 years' Three women have been "rescued" from a south London house as police investigate claims they were held as slaves for 30 years. Police arrested a 67-year-old man and a 67-year-old woman in Lambeth. Last month officers were contacted by Freedom Charity after it received a call from a woman saying she had been held against her will for decades. A Malaysian woman, 69, an Irish woman, 57, and a British woman, 30, were all rescued from the house. The women, who are said to be "highly traumatised", are now in safe accommodation. Police said they were not related to each other and the 30-year-old had spent her whole life in servitude. Det Insp Kevin Hyland, from the Metropolitan Police's Human Trafficking Unit, said: "We have seen some cases when people have been held for ten years, but we have never seen anything of this magnitude before." He added that the women had controlled lives and spent most of it indoors, but they had some freedom. Police said the facts behind the situation were being slowly established as specialist workers were assisting the women. 'Absolutely terrified' "We applaud the actions of Freedom Charity and are working in partnership to support these victims who appear to have been held for over 30 years," Mr Hyland said. "We have launched an extensive investigation to establish the facts surrounding these very serious allegations. "A television documentary on forced marriages relating to the work of Freedom Charity was the catalyst that prompted one of the victims to call for help and led to their rescue." Aneeta Prem, founder of Freedom Charity, told Sky News the alleged victims were able to walk out of the house after receiving help from the charity. She said: "We started in-depth to talks to them when they could. It had to be pre-arranged. They gave us set times when they were able to speak to us. "It was planned that they would be able to walk out of the property. The police were on standby." The two people who were arrested were considered the "heads of the family", Ms Prem said, adding that the rescued women felt they were in "massive danger" and were "absolutely terrified". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25040741 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozen_out Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Something really odd about this story, it doesn't seem to stack on some level I can't quite put my finger on. Even the line about them having 'some freedom' sounds odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Something really odd about this story, it doesn't seem to stack on some level I can't quite put my finger on. Even the line about them having 'some freedom' sounds odd. It is odd. Ad for the charity maybe? http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/21/freedom-charity-london-slave-women But guardian links to http://www.freedomcharity.org.uk/ which looks like a charity aimed at kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Of even more interest is why this wasn't reported earlier. Apparently took place a few weeks ago. Give them time to acclimatise, feel slightly more at ease before the full force of the media swooned down? I imagine they would have needed to go to hospital for medicals, etc, so it was best if they were annonymous patients during any medicals/treatment. They would also need to be questioned in detail by the Police and also told to think long and hard about how they will now live going forward. The couple were arrested today so presumably this is why the story has now broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Of even more interest is why this wasn't reported earlier. Apparently took place a few weeks ago. Maybe the charity only got involved recently and is using it as a bit of a fundraiser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Something really odd about this story, it doesn't seem to stack on some level I can't quite put my finger on. I'm trying to work out how you imprison one person let alone 3 in a London house, it would be a major challenge IMO. I'm guessing that there's a strong element of exaggeration here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corevalue Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Something really odd about this story, it doesn't seem to stack on some level I can't quite put my finger on. Even the line about them having 'some freedom' sounds odd. It doesn't seem to stack on any level I look at it. What's this supposed to mean... Aneeta Prem, founder of Freedom Charity, told Sky News the alleged victims were able to walk out of the house after receiving help from the charity.She said: "We started in-depth to talks to them when they could. It had to be pre-arranged. They gave us set times when they were able to speak to us. So, they could walk out of the house with help from the charity, not the police? And they could talk to the charity? I see the charity is mostly involved with forced marriages. If that's what's going on, why are they puffing it up to "slavery"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10465524/Three-women-held-as-slaves-in-south-London.html 30-year-old slave was born into captivity in London Telegraph running with this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Something definitely amiss. Daily Mail hasnt included a value of their house. Even if they cant disclose the exact address they could put a guesstimate, like 'in south london, where the average house is worth X million' or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I'm trying to work out how you imprison one person let alone 3 in a London house, it would be a major challenge IMO. I'm guessing that there's a strong element of exaggeration here. Presumably if they've been down there for 30+ years the house was acquired when normal folk could still afford a proper, normal sized house, not a 10% share in a broom cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 These stories are just the worst. More worrying is that there are without doubt thousands more people like this held captive all the time and some will never be free or known about. Report says the women are highly traumatised. Ive heard the cops say similar, that its probably the tip of the iceberg, but in reality, given their captors at some time would die, allowing them to either escape with their tales of horror, or starve in the dungeon, their corpses eventually being found when the house is cleaned out, I cant imagine its that common. Unless the dungeons are really really really well hidden. Whatever, given missing persons are quite well documented here, id guess most would be foreign and smuggled in if it is more widespread. Perhaps some British slaves are incarcerated from birth, and killed before the captor dies of old age...thats the only other explanation I can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Ive heard the cops say similar, that its probably the tip of the iceberg, but in reality, given their captors at some time would die, allowing them to either escape with their tales of horror, or starve in the dungeon, their corpses eventually being found when the house is cleaned out, I cant imagine its that common. Unless the dungeons are really really really well hidden. Whatever, given missing persons are quite well documented here, id guess most would be foreign and smuggled in if it is more widespread. Perhaps some British slaves are incarcerated from birth, and killed before the captor dies of old age...thats the only other explanation I can think of. I can see that you have been planning things for some time given the matter careful thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC1 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I'm trying to work out how you imprison one person let alone 3 in a London house, it would be a major challenge IMO. I'm guessing that there's a strong element of exaggeration here. They could leave the house sometimes apparently, so I'm led to believe that there must have been considerable threats of violence to keep them in line if they went to the police or blabbed to anyone... Horrible stuff. I was expecting this to be another case of young immigrants shipped in from Nigeria or somewhere to be domestic slaves, but 2 of the women seem to be UK born. How do you go about capturing and imprisoning people to be your domestic slaves?! I imagine they must have been incredibly vulnerable somehow. Most strange. I think they should serve at least 30 years in prison, if found guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 They could leave the house sometimes apparently, so I'm led to believe that there must have been considerable threats of violence to keep them in line if they went to the police or blabbed to anyone... Horrible stuff. I was expecting this to be another case of young immigrants shipped in from Nigeria or somewhere to be domestic slaves, but 2 of the women seem to be UK born. How do you go about capturing and imprisoning people to be your domestic slaves?! I imagine they must have been incredibly vulnerable somehow. Most strange. I think they should serve at least 30 years in prison, if found guilty. Wasn't this exactly the case with the gypsy family who offered homeless guys who were living on the street work and somewhere to sleep and then forced them to work for peanuts doing tarmacking for twenty years, living in sheds and with threats of violence and actual violence should they try to escape? And being homeless in the first place they had nowhere to go. So they had some freedom and could speak to people but still couldn't get away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Wasn't this exactly the case with the gypsy family who offered homeless guys who were living on the street work and somewhere to sleep and then forced them to work for peanuts doing tarmacking for twenty years, living in sheds and with threats of violence and actual violence should they try to escape? And being homeless in the first place they had nowhere to go. So they had some freedom and could speak to people but still couldn't get away. These people may also be uneducated and/or have learning difficulties. In the case of the 30 year old woman, held captive her entire life, her entire worldview was probably shaped by her captors. There may well have been a strong bond between the enslaved women, who might have feared reprisals against the others if they attempted to escape. It is, nonetheless, a very strange story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 They could leave the house sometimes apparently, so I'm led to believe that there must have been considerable threats of violence to keep them in line if they went to the police or blabbed to anyone... Horrible stuff. I was expecting this to be another case of young immigrants shipped in from Nigeria or somewhere to be domestic slaves, but 2 of the women seem to be UK born. How do you go about capturing and imprisoning people to be your domestic slaves?! I imagine they must have been incredibly vulnerable somehow. Most strange. I think they should serve at least 30 years in prison, if found guilty. Im not sure what the issue is here. Any mortgage holder is free to leave his house every day, even go on holiday,but fail to pay the bank on collection day, and wallop,...the bailiffs come round, or social turn up,inspect your bottom and offer to pay the bank on your behalf till you are back on your feet. Meanwhile, everyone sniggers at your new credit rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1929crash Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 i know the matter is subject to criminal process and all that but is anyone else bothered by the fact that the alleged perpetrators have been bailed to come back in January? The phrase 'substantial flight risk' comes to mind as does the question of how seriously will people take this when alleged perpetrators of such a serious crime are not held in custody until trial. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/21/london-slaves-freed-after-30-years-captivity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1929crash Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Sorry Mods - I meant to post on the off topic forum, although you might argue that slavery has an impact on house prices in London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryturbojr Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I was amazed they got bail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantnrave Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Sorry Mods - I meant to post on the off topic forum, although you might argue that slavery has an impact on house prices in London. ? I thought the 30 year slavery thing was about the length of new mortgages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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