SarahBell Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 It's because it's a regional centre the man reckons. But he reckons they're resilient there and won't be affected by the downturn. (r4 at the bbc money problem show) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Starting to sound like house prices won't fall here because it's an in demand area type argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timak Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Suprised it is as low as that really, I suspect if you included all the outsourced workers who collect the recycling boxes and clean the offices etc it would be much higher. What we as a country have to do is decide what it makes sense to provide through the public purse and what not to. Simply making jobs that need doing "private sector" and paying them out of taxation doesn't alter the fact they are paid for out of taxation. The other "problem" is that increased efficiency makes workers redundant. If I look back to my grandparents one was a grocer in a team of about 10 people serving a few streets worth of customers, nowadays that many people would serve about 20,000 people in a Tesco! One was a machine operator in a factory with a through-put of about 5000 envelopes a day, nowadays one operator could make about 500,000 a day etc etc. Another was a farmer who employed hundreds of people to pick and plant crops, now a machine can do it all. Clealry this is a good thing, people have everything they need without so much labour being required and the price is lower. Unfortunately capitalism means that the increased productivity rewards solely the holder of the capital, and increasingly the holders of the capital find ways to avoid paying the tax which would pay for the public services so we have a tax gap. That doesn't mean we don't have some services provided which we don't need but it does mean that blaming the public sector workers for existing (not saying you are) is a bit short sighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan B'Stard MP Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Is that including the Royal Marines/Navy and Babcock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patfig Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 What a dump of a town Plymouth is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porca misèria Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 It's because it's a regional centre the man reckons. But he reckons they're resilient there and won't be affected by the downturn. (r4 at the bbc money problem show) Plimuff house prices have fallen a long way compared to surrounding areas (PL** rural postcodes) where they're flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Used to have an interesting shop called, I think, Westward Bound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timak Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Having said that this http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-23977034.html is what you should be getting for £750k Awesome house but it has been on the market forever so there must be something wrong with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan B'Stard MP Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 What a dump of a town Plymouth is C'mon....theres nothing in the world to compare with a friday night out in Stoke Village. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Unfortunately capitalism means that the increased productivity rewards solely the holder of the capital, and increasingly the holders of the capital find ways to avoid paying the tax which would pay for the public services so we have a tax gap. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papag Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 It's because it's a regional centre the man reckons. But he reckons they're resilient there and won't be affected by the downturn. (r4 at the bbc money problem show) The other 63% are on benefits so in reality is 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patfig Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 C'mon....theres nothing in the world to compare with a friday night out in Stoke Village. nawty bstard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 The Guardian state that its just under 29% in 2008 (?!!) http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/nov/16/public-sector-employment-statistics-map-by-authority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I think there's also a big Jobcentre Plus Processing Centre down there too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porca misèria Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Having said that this http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-23977034.html is what you should be getting for £750k Awesome house but it has been on the market forever so there must be something wrong with it. Comparing that picture to the floorplan shows it must be a mid-terrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Creation Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 C'mon....theres nothing in the world to compare with a friday night out in Stoke Village. You've clearly never visited Widnes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffneck Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 That doesn't mean we don't have some services provided which we don't need but it does mean that blaming the public sector workers for existing (not saying you are) is a bit short sighted. They can retrain for other positions in the private sector. Like thatchers , ladder makers , horse drawn carraige makers and other obsolete professions did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timak Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 They can retrain for other positions in the private sector. Like thatchers , ladder makers , horse drawn carraige makers and other obsolete professions did. Or we could just share some of the wealth around a bit more. There is plenty for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoma Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Or we could just share some of the wealth around a bit more. There is plenty for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Or we could just share some of the wealth around a bit more. There is plenty for everyone. go on, you start then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNACR Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 They can retrain for other positions in the private sector. Like thatchers , ladder makers , horse drawn carraige makers and other obsolete professions did. I knew we couldn't have a public sector thread without someone mentioning Thatcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissy_fit Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Having said that this http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-23977034.html is what you should be getting for £750k Awesome house but it has been on the market forever so there must be something wrong with it. Something odd there, surely? Or maybe if you've got 750k to spend you don't live in Stoke, whatever the house is like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricor mortis Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 What a dump of a town Plymouth is I strongly disagree. it has a beautiful natural harbour ( plymouth sound ) It backs onto a 340 sq mile national park. Quality of life and leisure opportunities in and around the city are good / excellent. The City Centre is ok and there are some beautiful suburbs. The child support agency is based there and the Land registry, though both have got the axe hanging over them. The hospital is large and has an affilliated medical school, these would account for a lot of public sector work as would the large forces presence. Im surprised there is not a larger public sector payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulfar Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 750k to live just of union street, that is the best laugh I have had in ages. There are some really overpriced properties in the Royal William Yard Development, they however have a humongous Stone wall them which has a gate which is closed to keep the scum out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricor mortis Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) 750k to live just of union street, that is the best laugh I have had in ages. There are some really overpriced properties in the Royal William Yard Development, they however have a humongous Stone wall them which has a gate which is closed to keep the scum out. No thats just the guide price. i would expect it to fetch more. It does state in the details that it has ' a very secure entrance' Edited March 30, 2011 by bricor mortis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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