loginandtonic Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) what was that about? and why does fail to mention the reason Tories opposed a lot of his plans + still do is simply because the UK doesn't have the money? how can people sit there and clap someone who is basically saying we'll all be in debt for decades, but trust me it's better than taking the medicine in a short, sharp shock now? i would rather have my tooth out quickly than push it and prod it until it dangles by a thread. * with thanks to Gman for the edit Edited September 15, 2009 by loginandtonic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptherebels Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 opposed a lot of his plans + still do is simply because the UK doesn't have the money?how can people sit there and clap Because now, the people know we have a printer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr ray Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 your Livelihoods & S A V I N G S Are, hanging in the balance He means we will be losing both if he or his party gets re-elected Notice he didn't say our livelihoods and savings. He must have bought gold when the price was low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I was just watching the TUC speech too, he said that our savings are STILL hanging in the balance. There is something big coming our way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loginandtonic Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 He means we will be losing both if he or his party gets re-electedNotice he didn't say our livelihoods and savings. He must have bought gold when the price was low. he really scares me, i think he really is way out of his depth, and theres no one of substance to wade in and stop him it seems, its a dumbed down Westminster when he's the creme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia O'Keeffe Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I was just watching the TUC speech too, he said that our savings are STILL hanging in the balance.There is something big coming our way. its alright you wont notice them gone, youve already just lost 1 percent of them today if they are sterling denominated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Buttafueco Jr Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 its alright you wont notice them gone, youve already just lost 1 percent of them today if they are sterling denominated Do you live abroad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyOne Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Our savings are hanging in the balance. They will either be lost through huge increases in wealth and income taxes required to feed the national debt if we fall into a deflationary death spiral or they will be crushed into oblivion if QE works and we enter into a phase of high inflation. The only real drama is the means by which we will lose them. It is a given that we will lose them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr ray Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Our savings are hanging in the balance.They will either be lost through huge increases in wealth and income taxes required to feed the national debt if we fall into a deflationary death spiral or they will be crushed into oblivion if QE works and we enter into a phase of high inflation. The only real drama is the means by which we will lose them. It is a given that we will lose them. Its got to be paid back somehow. Either it gets paid back through the country earning or from confiscating peoples savings. The UK is going in the wrong direction as a wealth creating country so the alternative looks the more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrentyieldmakessense(honest!) Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Our savings are hanging in the balance.They will either be lost through huge increases in wealth and income taxes required to feed the national debt if we fall into a deflationary death spiral or they will be crushed into oblivion if QE works and we enter into a phase of high inflation. The only real drama is the means by which we will lose them. It is a given that we will lose them. what - youre not protected from the mad man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I was just watching the TUC speech too, he said that our savings are STILL hanging in the balance.There is something big coming our way. I reckon he is just saying, like incumbent leaders always do, don't risk changing the guard at a time like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Savings are hanging by a thread? RBS and Lloyds HBoS about to implode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuya Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 F*CK PONZI STERLING! :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy-old-man-returns Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Savings are hanging by a thread?RBS and Lloyds HBoS about to implode? 1-2 weeks ago there was a rumour about a big European bank going down, this hasn't happened......yet. remember most european banks have a sliced up & lent to infinity share, UK banks WILL be affected without a doubt. My money is on Santander, now who is it they own again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrentyieldmakessense(honest!) Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Its got to be paid back somehow. Either it gets paid back through the country earning or from confiscating peoples savings. The UK is going in the wrong direction as a wealth creating country so the alternative looks the more likely. yep cant be long now for capital flight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RufflesTheGuineaPig Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I reckon he is just saying, like incumbent leaders always do, don't risk changing the guard at a time like this You don't change horse in the middle of a race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalancedBear Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Our savings are hanging in the balance.They will either be lost through huge increases in wealth and income taxes required to feed the national debt if we fall into a deflationary death spiral or they will be crushed into oblivion if QE works and we enter into a phase of high inflation. The only real drama is the means by which we will lose them. It is a given that we will lose them. There will be no deflationary death spiral, and even if there were, money would still have even more value. What Gordon probably means is that if we don't get a recovery soon through blind hope, he will have borrowed so much that savings will need to be confiscated to pay the debts and taxes will be increased to protect all public sector jobs. QE could still be expanded to inflate all savings away, anything in fact to still pay the public sector with money we have not got. The sooner he goes the better, as we are facing disaster with the madman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_James Toney_* Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 There will be no deflationary death spiral, and even if there were, money would still have even more value. What Gordon probably means is that if we don't get a recovery soon through blind hope, he will have borrowed so much that savings will need to be confiscated to pay the debts and taxes will be increased to protect all public sector jobs. QE could still be expanded to inflate all savings away, anything in fact to still pay the public sector with money we have not got. The sooner he goes the better, as we are facing disaster with the madman. hope this is not true, he never said this, god we could be all f**ked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy-old-man-returns Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 yep cant be long now for capital flight agreed lowrent. I am surprised how long it has taken though but that's down to the stupidity of the masses & the controlled lying media's ability to convince....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minos Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 yep cant be long now for capital flight I agree. You can almost smell it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_James Toney_* Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 that is amazing if he said this your Livelihoods & S A V I N G S Are, STILL* hanging in the balance we are finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Allegro Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 hope this is not true, he never said this, god we could be all f**ked I for one would be re-enacting the film 'Brewster's Millions' if that happened! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr ray Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 You don't change horse in the middle of a race. You do if the horse is dead and in a late stage of decomposition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_James Toney_* Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I for one would be re-enacting the film 'Brewster's Millions' if that happened! was just thinking something like that, dont know what to think or do , what a bunch of b'stards this government really are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyOne Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 what - youre not protected from the mad man I have done the best that I can to overlay a matrix of possible outcomes and investment performance for each asset class given each outcome and have tried to optimise the risk / reward. No matter how much thought one puts into it, there is still a risk that something unexpected happens. I am very far from complacent at the moment even though the market seems to be telling us that we can relax a bit ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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