Debt Collector Called Me This Morning.

[horus]

I was rudely awoken at 9:45am this morning by Fredrickson International. This is how the conversation went (comments later) : ME (Myself) FI ( Fredrickson International)

Ring Ring, Ring Ring

Me = Hello

FI = Hi Can I speak to Mr --- ---------- ---- please ?

Me = Speaking

FI = Hello Mr ------------------, I am calling from Fredrickson International on behalf of your outstanding Tiscali account.

Me = I'm not with Tiscali anymore I went back to BT, because Tiscali are crap.

FI = The amount owed is £42.90, can I start by taking your full name and address ?

Me = ------------------ --------------------, -- --------- ------ (you get the picture)

FI = And can you confirm you date of birth for me ?

Me = I dont give that out over the telephone.

FI = Why ?

Me = Data Protection to prevent Identify theft.

FI = Well I cannot proceed without establishing your identity ?

Me = Why would I want to establish my identity over the phone, you could be anyone, whats your name ?

FI = Thats not important ?

Me = What do you mean its not important, you rang me up asking for my details but you wont give your own.

FI = Whats your date of birth then I can proceed with the conversation, I will have to hang up if you do not confirm your date of birth.

Me = You mean, if I dont give you my date of birth you cannot ask me for money.

FI = Whats your date of birth again.

Me = 12th November 1922

FI = Sir, thats not your date of birth I have here.

Me = What date of birth do you have there ?

FI = I cant tell you that for data protection reasons. Whats your correct date of birth ?

Me = 5th Novemeber 2008

FI = Why are you being a ***** ? (yes he really said that)

Me = You woke me from my sleep to ask me for money and give me crap over my date of birth.

FI = If you do not verifiy your correct date of birth, I will not be able to continue with this conversation. What is your date of birth ?

Me = I am not telling you. But I do have something else to tell you ?

FI = What ?

Me = Do not call this number again, as I registered with the telephone preference service and it is an offence to do so.

FI = I pay my debts why dont you ?

Me = You didnt say please... ta ta

(hung up)

This is how all scum bags that ring you up should be treated.

[durhamborn]

I was rudely awoken at 9:45am this morning by Fredrickson International. This is how the conversation went (comments later) : ME (Myself) FI ( Fredrickson International)

Ring Ring, Ring Ring

Me = Hello

FI = Hi Can I speak to Mr --- ---------- ---- please ?

Me = Speaking

FI = Hello Mr ------------------, I am calling from Fredrickson International on behalf of your outstanding Tiscali account.

Me = I'm not with Tiscali anymore I went back to BT, because Tiscali are crap.

FI = The amount owed is £42.90, can I start by taking your full name and address ?

Me = ------------------ --------------------, -- --------- ------ (you get the picture)

FI = And can you confirm you date of birth for me ?

Me = I dont give that out over the telephone.

FI = Why ?

Me = Data Protection to prevent Identify theft.

FI = Well I cannot proceed without establishing your identity ?

Me = Why would I want to establish my identity over the phone, you could be anyone, whats your name ?

FI = Thats not important ?

Me = What do you mean its not important, you rang me up asking for my details but you wont give your own.

FI = Whats your date of birth then I can proceed with the conversation, I will have to hang up if you do not confirm your date of birth.

Me = You mean, if I dont give you my date of birth you cannot ask me for money.

FI = Whats your date of birth again.

Me = 12th November 1922

FI = Sir, thats not your date of birth I have here.

Me = What date of birth do you have there ?

FI = I cant tell you that for data protection reasons. Whats your correct date of birth ?

Me = 5th Novemeber 2008

FI = Why are you being a ***** ? (yes he really said that)

Me = You woke me from my sleep to ask me for money and give me crap over my date of birth.

FI = If you do not verifiy your correct date of birth, I will not be able to continue with this conversation. What is your date of birth ?

Me = I am not telling you. But I do have something else to tell you ?

FI = What ?

Me = Do not call this number again, as I registered with the telephone preference service and it is an offence to do so.

FI = I pay my debts why dont you ?

Me = You didnt say please... ta ta

(hung up)

This is how all scum bags that ring you up should be treated.

I had similar with an Orange debt collector.I was with Orange broadband,and it went off one day and never came back on.After at least 20 calls to India and still nowhere id had enough.They kept saying it was my lap top.Re-formatted the lot,only thing on was windows and broadband.Turns out my broadband went off when?The very second orange put their equipment in the exchange and stop useing BTs.They admitted it in the end.I cancelled my DD and went with BT,,bit pricey but 100% service since and thatl do me.

Orange then started calling at all times for the supposed £46 quid i owed them.In the end i said id like you to take me to court please.You didnt provide a service and are trying to extort money from me,thankyou il see you in court.They said youl never get credit again.I said ive never had credit in my life so no loss.They said it will affect you getting a mortgage,i said my house is paid for thankyou.

So i repeated go to court and il see you there,oh and as thankyou il be sueing you for malicious falsehood.

Never heard a thing since.Plus my wifes,and two childrens orange mobile got unlocked,sims in the bin and over to T-mobile so their ridiculous customer relations cost them £500 quid a year for £46 quid i never owed them in the first place.I also sent a letter to OFCOM just for the hell of it.

[Guest anorthosite]

Good move. Never, ever, ever give out your details to a any caller! We all seem to be net savvy with phishing, but some people will just give away their information over the phone.

Obviously if you phone them then its different.

[Garry AKA Pod]

I was rudely awoken at 9:45am this morning by Fredrickson International. This is how the conversation went (comments later) : ME (Myself) FI ( Fredrickson International)

Ring Ring, Ring Ring

Me = Hello

FI = Hi Can I speak to Mr --- ---------- ---- please ?

Me = Speaking

FI = Hello Mr ------------------, I am calling from Fredrickson International on behalf of your outstanding Tiscali account.

Me = I'm not with Tiscali anymore I went back to BT, because Tiscali are crap.

FI = The amount owed is £42.90, can I start by taking your full name and address ?

Me = ------------------ --------------------, -- --------- ------ (you get the picture)

FI = And can you confirm you date of birth for me ?

Me = I dont give that out over the telephone.

FI = Why ?

Me = Data Protection to prevent Identify theft.

FI = Well I cannot proceed without establishing your identity ?

Me = Why would I want to establish my identity over the phone, you could be anyone, whats your name ?

FI = Thats not important ?

Me = What do you mean its not important, you rang me up asking for my details but you wont give your own.

FI = Whats your date of birth then I can proceed with the conversation, I will have to hang up if you do not confirm your date of birth.

Me = You mean, if I dont give you my date of birth you cannot ask me for money.

FI = Whats your date of birth again.

Me = 12th November 1922

FI = Sir, thats not your date of birth I have here.

Me = What date of birth do you have there ?

FI = I cant tell you that for data protection reasons. Whats your correct date of birth ?

Me = 5th Novemeber 2008

FI = Why are you being a ***** ? (yes he really said that)

Me = You woke me from my sleep to ask me for money and give me crap over my date of birth.

FI = If you do not verifiy your correct date of birth, I will not be able to continue with this conversation. What is your date of birth ?

Me = I am not telling you. But I do have something else to tell you ?

FI = What ?

Me = Do not call this number again, as I registered with the telephone preference service and it is an offence to do so.

FI = I pay my debts why dont you ?

Me = You didnt say please... ta ta

(hung up)

This is how all scum bags that ring you up should be treated.

I applaud you sir. Very funny. Well done for not telling him to go and f*** himself. I'd possibly go a step further though and complain to Fu**wits International about being called a ***** by one of their Gestapo, though that would mean having to make further contact with them.

[Methinkshe]

I once got a call from debt collectors chasing one of my kids (who'd recently left home) for a disputed debt. The chap started to discuss the debt and the amount and was incredibly rude to me, until I told him that he had no business discussing my son's debt with me and that I would be reporting him to his managers for violation of Data Protection Act. I wrote to the company and had a grovelling letter of apology back from them. No more was heard from the debt collectors - either by me or my son!

It pays to stand up to them - they can use very intimidating tactics.

[winkie]

I was rudely awoken at 9:45am this morning by Fredrickson International. This is how the conversation went (comments later) : ME (Myself) FI ( Fredrickson International)

Ring Ring, Ring Ring

Me = Hello

FI = Hi Can I speak to Mr --- ---------- ---- please ?

Me = Speaking

FI = Hello Mr ------------------, I am calling from Fredrickson International on behalf of your outstanding Tiscali account.

Me = I'm not with Tiscali anymore I went back to BT, because Tiscali are crap.

FI = The amount owed is £42.90, can I start by taking your full name and address ?

Me = ------------------ --------------------, -- --------- ------ (you get the picture)

FI = And can you confirm you date of birth for me ?

Me = I dont give that out over the telephone.

FI = Why ?

Me = Data Protection to prevent Identify theft.

FI = Well I cannot proceed without establishing your identity ?

Me = Why would I want to establish my identity over the phone, you could be anyone, whats your name ?

FI = Thats not important ?

Me = What do you mean its not important, you rang me up asking for my details but you wont give your own.

FI = Whats your date of birth then I can proceed with the conversation, I will have to hang up if you do not confirm your date of birth.

Me = You mean, if I dont give you my date of birth you cannot ask me for money.

FI = Whats your date of birth again.

Me = 12th November 1922

FI = Sir, thats not your date of birth I have here.

Me = What date of birth do you have there ?

FI = I cant tell you that for data protection reasons. Whats your correct date of birth ?

Me = 5th Novemeber 2008

FI = Why are you being a ***** ? (yes he really said that)

Me = You woke me from my sleep to ask me for money and give me crap over my date of birth.

FI = If you do not verifiy your correct date of birth, I will not be able to continue with this conversation. What is your date of birth ?

Me = I am not telling you. But I do have something else to tell you ?

FI = What ?

Me = Do not call this number again, as I registered with the telephone preference service and it is an offence to do so.

FI = I pay my debts why dont you ?

Me = You didnt say please... ta ta

(hung up)

This is how all scum bags that ring you up should be treated.

So funny and so true...you got me crying with laughter...great stuff, give as good as you get.

[anotherdatamoney]

Good One Horus…. I hate the stories I hear about modern day debt collectors.

I remember the last recession when my business was in trouble. CCJ’s and bills were all we seemed to receive in the post those days.

The most understanding people we ever met were the local council bailiffs. They would visit with a warrant and talk to myself and my business partner before serving the warrant. Once they knew we intended to pay and that times were tough they became very sympathetic. They knew we were doing everything we could to rectify the problem.

Being 20 at the time I didn’t know what a bailiff was allowed to take or do. To be honest I was cr@pping myself the first time they came to the office I thought right that’s it I’m off to debtors prison. But all they did was draw up an itinerary of our office equipment cars etc and then they went through the list.

Bailiff: Desks…..are they leased…. ….

Me: I think they are…Knowing full well they weren’t.

Bailiff: The Photocopier is it leased…they usually are…..

Me: I think so…Knowing full well it wasn’t

Bailiff: The car, is it on HP?

By this point I knew the score…..Off course.

I have watched the programs on TV about the new form of private bailiff and I know if they had visited me in 1989-1990 I would have lost everything the business needed to carry on trading (and eventually pay off all the debts).

After the business recovered and we had paid back all our suppliers I bumped into the bailiff at the local supermarket. He had retired by then but he enquired about the business and how we were doing. To which I replied we’re getting there…. He said I knew you would and clearing your office was the last thing your business or your debtors needed. You just needed time………..

Sadly, that would not happen today.

[Abstra]

They package these debts up and sell them to each other didn't you know that. Orange will sell say 1000 debts of say 50 quid at a face value of 50 K for say 5K to company X who will try and recover 30K using barrage of phone calls and letters. The people on the phone get paid something like 40% of the debt face value the rest going to the company. They operate more like a hairdressers than a professional outfit. Thats why you get a load of shite from them.

[interestrateripoff]

I was rudely awoken at 9:45am this morning by Fredrickson International. This is how the conversation went (comments later) : ME (Myself) FI ( Fredrickson International)

Ring Ring, Ring Ring

Me = Hello

FI = Hi Can I speak to Mr --- ---------- ---- please ?

Me = Speaking

FI = Hello Mr ------------------, I am calling from Fredrickson International on behalf of your outstanding Tiscali account.

Me = I'm not with Tiscali anymore I went back to BT, because Tiscali are crap.

FI = The amount owed is £42.90, can I start by taking your full name and address ?

Me = ------------------ --------------------, -- --------- ------ (you get the picture)

FI = And can you confirm you date of birth for me ?

Me = I dont give that out over the telephone.

FI = Why ?

Me = Data Protection to prevent Identify theft.

FI = Well I cannot proceed without establishing your identity ?

Me = Why would I want to establish my identity over the phone, you could be anyone, whats your name ?

FI = Thats not important ?

Me = What do you mean its not important, you rang me up asking for my details but you wont give your own.

FI = Whats your date of birth then I can proceed with the conversation, I will have to hang up if you do not confirm your date of birth.

Me = You mean, if I dont give you my date of birth you cannot ask me for money.

FI = Whats your date of birth again.

Me = 12th November 1922

FI = Sir, thats not your date of birth I have here.

Me = What date of birth do you have there ?

FI = I cant tell you that for data protection reasons. Whats your correct date of birth ?

Me = 5th Novemeber 2008

FI = Why are you being a ***** ? (yes he really said that)

Me = You woke me from my sleep to ask me for money and give me crap over my date of birth.

FI = If you do not verifiy your correct date of birth, I will not be able to continue with this conversation. What is your date of birth ?

Me = I am not telling you. But I do have something else to tell you ?

FI = What ?

Me = Do not call this number again, as I registered with the telephone preference service and it is an offence to do so.

FI = I pay my debts why dont you ?

Me = You didnt say please... ta ta

(hung up)

This is how all scum bags that ring you up should be treated.

Excellent.

Very funny.

[miko]

The last time I moved I phoned E.D.F. energy read the electric meter and gave a forwarding address.

About three to four weeks later I picked up the phone , and there was a very aggressive man on the other end regarding me not paying the final bill. "Well if E.D.F. had sent the bill I would have paid it " was my reply ." Obviously the person I spoke to at E.D.F. did not put my new address in the system and I bet the bill has gone to the old address. "

I then told him to get on to E.D.F. and give them my new address and then they could send me a replacement bill which I would pay . " no I am not going to get on to E.D.F. " was his reply

me " ok I said I will get on to them who is your contact in E.D.F. energy . "

him " we don't have a contact in E.D.F. " his reply

me " you don't have a contact with E.D.F. "

him "no "

me " well how did you get my details then ? did a F------g carrier Pigeon bring them to you "

him " we just do work for them "

me " yes I know that so you must have a contact with them"

him " no " and he just started Threatening me about not paying the bill

At this point I just gave him a load of abuse told him he was a C--t and quite enjoyed it . Then I phoned E.D.F. and sorted the situation I also explained to them that

1 If they had updated the address none of this would have happened

2 They should pick their debt collecting company more carefully , as when a mistake is made it is not fair on the person receiving a call from someone like that .

Did enjoy giving the debt collector a mouth full though

Edited November 5, 2008 by miko

[Guest barebear]

Why do debt collectors think they're something important. I had a conversation with one who objected to me calling him mate. He threatened to end the conversation unless I called him by his name. I continued to call him mate but he didnt end the call. I resorted to having to call him Kunt in the end to make him go, he made out that he would report me to someone for using bad language. WTF , that really scared me !!

It occured to me after though that their tactics must work with some people otherwise they wouldn't be trying to sound so officious.

[Selling up]

They operate more like a hairdressers than a professional outfit. Thats why you get a load of shite from them.

Think you might want to consider changing your hairdresser.

[Guest barebear]

They package these debts up and sell them to each other didn't you know that. Orange will sell say 1000 debts of say 50 quid at a face value of 50 K for say 5K to company X who will try and recover 30K using barrage of phone calls and letters. The people on the phone get paid something like 40% of the debt face value the rest going to the company. They operate more like a hairdressers than a professional outfit. Thats why you get a load of shite from them.

Yes they do, I know somone in brighton who bought up cable debts and went round door to door. He reckoned he would miss out all the big dogs and anyone that was aggresive and just concentrate on the single mums. He propositioned my tele sales girl a while back and told her he could make her debts go away.

God knows how he made any money,he would buy 10 grandes worth of debts for a grande and hope to make 2 grande back.Didnt seem to add up to me the amount of time he took to collect it.

[BXLONDONMAN]

The last time I moved I phoned E.D.F. energy read the electric meter and gave a forwarding address.

About three to four weeks later I picked up the phone , and there was a very aggressive man on the other end regarding me not paying the final bill. "Well if E.D.F. had sent the bill I would have paid it " was my reply ." Obviously the person I spoke to at E.D.F. did not put my new address in the system and I bet the bill has gone to the old address. "

I then told him to get on to E.D.F. and give them my new address and then they could send me a replacement bill which I would pay . " no I am not going to get on to E.D.F. " was his reply

me " ok I said I will get on to them who is your contact in E.D.F. energy . "

him " we don't have a contact in E.D.F. " his reply

me " you don't have a contact with E.D.F. "

him "no "

me " well how did you get my details then ? did a F------g carrier Pigeon bring them to you "

him " we just do work for them "

me " yes I know that so you must have a contact with them"

him " no " and he just started Threatening me about not paying the bill

At this point I just gave him a load of abuse told him he was a C--t and quite enjoyed it . Then I phoned E.D.F. and sorted the situation I also explained to them that

1 If they had updated the address none of this would have happened

2 They should pick their debt collecting company more carefully , as when a mistake is made it is not fair on the person receiving a call from someone like that .

Did enjoy giving the debt collector a mouth full though

more people should do this, debt collectors need to know its real money ther asking for, not funny money ther bosses get...for doing nothing....

just dont give them the time of day ,,,many of them will go under..if you dont pay they make zip

they cant force you to give them even your name over the phone,ask them to send you a letter even if they have, as you never had a letter from them.

this gives you time its a delay for them + costs more do this a few times they will give up on small debts..

a lot of people feel they have to give ther name DOB etc you give nowt over the phone or in letters that you will never get

they home in on fear, that threats will make you pay,,,,,fear nothing as they have no power and can do nowt to you

just say i never give my name over the phone, if you have given it. just say your lucky i gave you my name thats it no more send a letter..for a laugh say i have been brainwashed to say no more..

Edited November 5, 2008 by BXLONDONMAN

[Rick62]

Yeah, Tiscali are complete rubbish. Every time I had a problem with the service you couldn't get anywhere, called service number in India and some idiot say'we'll notify BT within 24 hours'. Then nothing. I've now switched to BT. Phone develops fault yesterday, engineer 9.00 this morning, very profession, problem fixed.

And Tiscali didn't stop my DD. I phoned accounts, said I cancelled 3 months ago, they said they couldnt cancel my DD until the service had been cancelled by their engineers. Got the money back from my bank, they still keep writing while ignoring my responses to their letters. Complete muppets.

[horus]

I am pleased there are so like minded people on this thread to myself. I find it an invasion of privacy at the least for this two bit company to ring up law abiding citizen and have some spotty nosed teenager trying to extort money. When will big businesses learn that the average joe in the street, sint trying to run away from any amount they owe, they simply want a fair service/product and to be charge the correct amount for that job. Instead they insist they are correct and then sell your details and the supposed debt to halfwitted firm that ring up and harrass you to pay.

[horus]

more people should do this, debt collectors need to know its real money ther asking for, not funny money ther bosses get...for doing nothing....

just dont give them the time of day ,,,many of them will go under..if you dont pay they make zip

they cant force you to give them even your name over the phone,ask them to send you a letter even if they have, as you never had a letter from them.

this gives you time its a delay for them + costs more do this a few times they will give up on small debts..

a lot of people feel they have to give ther name DOB etc you give nowt over the phone or in letters that you will never get

they home in on fear, that threats will make you pay,,,,,fear nothing as they have no power and can do nowt to you

just say i never give my name over the phone, if you have given it. just say your lucky i gave you my name thats it no more send a letter..for i laugh say i have been brainwashed to say no more..

Excellent advice. I hope people who feel intimidated by these cowboys read this thread. I think the world could do with a few less debt collectors in it.

[English Rose]

he made out that he would report me to someone for using bad language. WTF , that really scared me !!

Love it!

Rachel

[horus]

Yeah, Tiscali are complete rubbish. Every time I had a problem with the service you couldn't get anywhere, called service number in India and some idiot say'we'll notify BT within 24 hours'. Then nothing. I've now switched to BT. Phone develops fault yesterday, engineer 9.00 this morning, very profession, problem fixed.

And Tiscali didn't stop my DD. I phoned accounts, said I cancelled 3 months ago, they said they couldnt cancel my DD until the service had been cancelled by their engineers. Got the money back from my bank, they still keep writing while ignoring my responses to their letters. Complete muppets.

I was with Tiscali from 2006, when I was tempted in by there £12.00 broadband deal. I got TiscaliTalk with them too. I have to admit I had no problems with them until August this year when I got married, went on honeymoon, came back to email friends and family and say thank you and all that and my connection was slower than 56k at best and not working most of the time. I tried to ring but when you tried to call anyone, a modem noise (fax type noise) was present instead of the dialing tone. Went to Nationwide building society and they said the direct debit had been taken out as normal, so I knew it wasnt a billing problem.

Called them from my mobile at some considerable expense for 3 weeks daily to resolve. Despite promises and the Indian based customer service which believe me is not an accent compatible with a Mancunian accent, we called it a day. I call BT and changed everything over (no problems to date), then I got letters stating I owed them 3 months line rental as I had not cancelled my contract. I explained to them that I should not be paying for a service I am not receiving. I found them very inflexible and so what they have obviously done is sold the debt to these charletons and we are where we are. If this goes to court which I doubt, I do everything I can to avoid payment and if I do have to pay (if I lose) then I will make them dizzy trying to get the money out of me.

[horus]

Love it!

Rachel

That tickled me too.

[AffordableHousing]

The original post sounds like a pack of lies to me.

I read something with the exact same 'to and fro' as that post some time ago on Google groups or some such place.

I'd say it was written by the same person.

Some people will believe any old thing people write on about.

I get the feeling it's just a story and never happened as narrated.

Maybe some such phone call of a remotely similar nature a year or two ago, that has never been 'purged' out of the system, even with, on a regular basis all the numerous 're-encountments'.

Look out for this tale croping up somewhere else sometime in the near future.

You'll know it when you see it.

[buyhighselllow]

I came back to my house from living abroad for a few years.

Within days of moving back in, I was called by a debt collector, looking for the tenant who had rented our house while we were away.

The conversations were surreal. Like the OP said he was obsessed with working out who I was, but as an expat I'd been off the radar for years so I wasn't in his database.

I'm never going to give out details about myself to a stranger on the phone. The more I politely declined to give him anything, the more frustrated he got. I began to look forward to his three of four times a day calls - he was a c*** who clearly had nothing to go on and it was killing him.

Towards the end, he was truly threatening, very unprofessional, and utterly powerless. The more he got angry, the more pleasure I got from just politely telling him absolutely nothing.

After about 3 weeks, he gave up. I never had any comeback.

[buzzardo]

The original post sounds like a pack of lies to me.

I read something with the exact same 'to and fro' as that post some time ago on Google groups or some such place.

I'd say it was written by the same person.

Some people will believe any old thing people write on about.

I get the feeling it's just a story and never happened as narrated.

Maybe some such phone call of a remotely similar nature a year or two ago, that has never been 'purged' out of the system, even with, on a regular basis all the numerous 're-encountments'.

Look out for this tale croping up somewhere else sometime in the near future.

You'll know it when you see it.

Err, maybe it was written by the same person.

Maybe they post on more than one forum.

It sounds exactly like the kind of interaction my wife and I have had over many years with these to$ers, and other posts also seem to reflect that this kind of thing goes on.

You seem to post quite a lot of comments of the "the OP is a liar / tw@t / making it up / I don't believe it / ooh you think Obama is your mate, do you...?" nature on here, but so far I've seen nothing from you that adds anything to the debates, the sum total of human knowledge, or the amusement factor.

So what, exactly, is your problem? If you're not OK, and we're not OK, why don't you just go away and post your boring drivel somewhere else?!

Kno8.

B

[BXLONDONMAN]

The original post sounds like a pack of lies to me.

I read something with the exact same 'to and fro' as that post some time ago on Google groups or some such place.

I'd say it was written by the same person.

Some people will believe any old thing people write on about.

I get the feeling it's just a story and never happened as narrated.

Maybe some such phone call of a remotely similar nature a year or two ago, that has never been 'purged' out of the system, even with, on a regular basis all the numerous 're-encountments'.

Look out for this tale croping up somewhere else sometime in the near future.

You'll know it when you see it.

debt collectors have a set of Qs they read from a page used by them all more or less..thats why you have seen many things like this thread...that does not take away from the fact that these people phone up people every day..demanding money,,,say nowt give nowt away and they can do nowt to you...just keep saying i have been brain washed not give my name or DOB to any one just like you have..

send me a letter.. may it never arrive,, send it back does not live here if it comes..they can do nothing to you,,,,empty threats fear nothing from them

[horus]

The original post sounds like a pack of lies to me.

I read something with the exact same 'to and fro' as that post some time ago on Google groups or some such place.

I'd say it was written by the same person.

Some people will believe any old thing people write on about.

I get the feeling it's just a story and never happened as narrated.

Maybe some such phone call of a remotely similar nature a year or two ago, that has never been 'purged' out of the system, even with, on a regular basis all the numerous 're-encountments'.

Look out for this tale croping up somewhere else sometime in the near future.

You'll know it when you see it.

I wrote the thread here today. It happened as I said this morning. Any similarity to anything else you have I can assure you is purely conincidental. However I am not lying, I have no reason to, just thought I would share.

I dont post anywhere but here, and I am not calling you a liar, I am merely pointing out the coincidence. But the other post was not me and this has only happened today.

Edited November 6, 2008 by horus