Fed Up With Cornwall!

[shedfish]

i did spend a long, long summer or two in Cornwall years ago... working in the holiday trade, on a farm, anything i could get. at the time though i couldn't find a way of making things more permanent, and come october had to go back 'up country'.

while i was there i had a ball, with 99.9% of the people i met, worked with etc as friendly as you get anywhere. there were one or two Kernow 'extremists', but if you want to benchmark insularity, clique exclusion, regional bigotry i humbly suggest a spell in stafford.

don't get me wrong, the friends you make here are diamonds and keepers... but Cornwall is a breeze in comparison, imo.

many fond memories, few bad ones. you just have to keep plugging away...

[d2thdr]

I've lived in West Cornwall for the last 30 years. If you're not a complete tw@t then the locals'll treat you 'blow ins' in the manner you deserve!

I know Brummies, scousers, scotts and northern monkeys who are as much a part of the community down here as any one. I also used to run a website (www.cornwall24.co.uk) which is full of foaming at the mouth Cornish nationalists - might be worth posting the same point on there for a laugh!

As for the Cornish being retards - I think you'll find the same demographic here as anywhere else in the UK.

At the end of the day I certainly don't want anymore people down here especially if they surf so you'll won't find me welcoming anyone and I ain't even born 'n' bred!

I lived in Cornwall for 3.5 years. I was born and brought up in a third world country. So Cornwall was quite a place to get to eventually. However, I found many educated well mannered hard working folk whom I befriended and though I have moved away, I am still in touch with them. May be it was what I did, or may be it was the people I met, but overall my experience of living in Cornwall was superb. Yes the towns are ghost towns in winter, yes there is some clearly apparent inbreeding, the people there are effectively a part of closed communitiy and ofcourse there was a clear dislike for anything that is not white, but overall the experience was positive and in my book, that is what was important to me.

I still love Cornwall and I would encourage anyone to considering a move there do so with open mind.

[tplatt]

I lived in Cornwall for 3.5 years. I was born and brought up in a third world country. So Cornwall was quite a place to get to eventually. However, I found many educated well mannered hard working folk whom I befriended and though I have moved away, I am still in touch with them. May be it was what I did, or may be it was the people I met, but overall my experience of living in Cornwall was superb. Yes the towns are ghost towns in winter, yes there is some clearly apparent inbreeding, the people there are effectively a part of closed communitiy and ofcourse there was a clear dislike for anything that is not white, but overall the experience was positive and in my book, that is what was important to me.

I still love Cornwall and I would encourage anyone to considering a move there do so with open mind.

The towns are ghost towns most nights, whatever time of year it is. Any that are busy are just dives. Sorry, but the truth.

[robert99]

Terrible when these Cornish tried to force shelter on this incomer at Marazion.

"A Methodist chapel in Cornwall has offered sanctuary to a Hong Kong Chinese man who went on the run when threatened with deportation by the Home Office. Alfred Tong, of Camborne, near Penzance, who has lived in Britain for 17 years and has a British wife and three-year-old daughter, slept rough for three nights before taking shelter in the church at Marazion after his home was raided by Home Office officials. He fears he will never see his family again if he is deported to Hong Kong.

He was given refuge by the church minister, the Rev Allan Bailey. Though the concept of sanctuary has no legal force in this country, Mr Bailey said he hoped that public opinion would keep Mr Tong safe until his case could come up before the European Court of Human Rights. Both the Anglican Bishop of Truro, the Rt Rev Michael Ball, and the chairman of the Cornwall Methodist district have appealed to the Home office on his behalf."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/methodist-chapel-in-cornwall-offers-sanctuary-to-hong-kong-chinese-1336452.html

[Patfig]

If you left Cornwall to the Cornish, it would just turn into an non-achieving, hopeless overgrown, desolate trogg infested wasteland. It's probably what they deserve, although they would be the first to complain if this was the case.

I take it, you arent enjoying it 100%

[Patfig]

What a horrible thread.

I grew up in Cornwall and know of people who made the effort to become part of the community and have lived happily for years there. Yes there is a tide of resentment against second home owners who don't pay as much council tax and therefore families can't buuy in the towns and villages in which they grew up. Yes, this can be said for many other areas in England.

Can't say many of my friends were hobbit look a likes either. Cornwall does have a sense of it's own identity and the people are proud. I love my home county. I am happy to share it with tourists who bring a bustle and life otherwise lacking in the county.

I find the hurtful comments made on both sides of this rather extreme argument disgusting and narrow minded.

Someone sane and normal at last

well said

[TopTaff]

I moved to Cornwall 20 + years ago - I have never experienced any problems due to my accent or nationality - I have brought two kids up in this wonderfull place and see no reason for me ever to leave .

I don't do anything 'special' to fit in , just simply get on with things.

I can understand any one who has thier full time residence in Cornwall having an issue with the property prices , held there mainly by holiday homers , but I have never seen anything but good natured banter and ribbing about 'Emmetts'

(helps being 6ft 3 and 18 stone mind you )

Edited November 2, 2009 by Toptaff

[swissy_fit]

Saw this thread again and was reminded of a conversation I had last week with a local surfer in Royan (Charente-Maritime).

Except for the language, I could have been talking to a local in Polzeath.

Moan moan nasty rich arrogant Parisians taking my waves, expensive houses crap pay no opportunities etc etc.

I pointed out that his Dads restaurant was ever-so-slightly dependent on the aforementioned rich Parisians, and that I couldn't walk out of my job at 5pm and be surfing 20 minutes later.

To be fair, he did concede that you can't have everything.

[porca misèria]

I moved to Cornwall 20 + years ago - I have never experienced any problems due to my accent or nationality - I have brought two kids up in this wonderfull place and see no reason for me ever to leave .

I don't do anything 'special' to fit in , just simply get on with things.

I can understand any one who has thier full time residence in Cornwall having an issue with the property prices , held there mainly by holiday homers , but I have never seen anything but good natured banter and ribbing about 'Emmetts'

(helps being 6ft 3 and 18 stone mind you )

Yebbut a taff isn't a stinkin' rich holiday homer, you're a fellow west-Briton!

[Jollyrotten]

Hi there, I moved to Cornwall from Surrey a while back as we felt the time had come for us to move to an area we have always loved. So we found an affordable place to live and employment, so far so good eh? Well we sure have learned the hard way! My advice to anyone even thinking about moving down here is DONT DO IT!! Although there are alot of people who have moved in from up country, many of the locals seem to think that they live in their own country and not just another county, which afterall Cornwal is. Sure thats not to tar all Cornish people with the same brush, but there are alot who think that having the cross of St Piran stuck on the back of their cars is some big deal. Thre are so many who are ignorant morons who wave that flag but couldnt begin to tell you what it actually means.

If you drive anywhere you will soon have someone driving 3 inches from your rear bumper and then overtake on a blind bend.

The countryside is beautiful, I couldnt deny that and the coastline is stunning, but pretty sceenery doesnt pay the bills, wages are very low.

By all means give it a go, if you must, but dont take it for granted that you will find utopia here and have a plan B if it doesnt work out.

As soon as the oppertunity arises we are off.

[rex]

Cornwall isn't "just another county". It's akin to Wales, or Scotland, or Ireland. That's why the cornish were recognised this year as a national minority in the EU. The cornish are a different race to the English, with historically their own language, flag and king.

Absolutely fair enough it you don't like the Cornish - they are often suspicious and unwelcoming of outsiders. But get you facts right at least about what you're living in. It's not "just another county".

[Patfig]

Cornwall isn't "just another county". It's akin to Wales, or Scotland, or Ireland. That's why the cornish were recognised this year as a national minority in the EU. The cornish are a different race to the English, with historically their own language, flag and king.

Absolutely fair enough it you don't like the Cornish - they are often suspicious and unwelcoming of outsiders. But get you facts right at least about what you're living in. It's not "just another county".

The Cornish are now officially insignificant............ thanks EU

[spyguy]

I moved to Cornwall 20 + years ago - I have never experienced any problems due to my accent or nationality - I have brought two kids up in this wonderfull place and see no reason for me ever to leave .

I don't do anything 'special' to fit in , just simply get on with things.

I can understand any one who has thier full time residence in Cornwall having an issue with the property prices , held there mainly by holiday homers , but I have never seen anything but good natured banter and ribbing about 'Emmetts'

(helps being 6ft 3 and 18 stone mind you )

What's your accent?

I'm from Yorkshire. I've just to open my mouth and I'm not bothered.

This works in Cornwall and worst Dundee dive.

I think my reception might have been different with a southern english accent - posh or cokernee.

[BF2142]

I grew up in Cornwall. Yes, there is a minority of bitter angry locals who resent the outside world but don't make sweeping generalisations about the Cornish and don't make the fallacious assumption that everyone who comes from the south east/London is some liberal, urbane, high IQ, high-achiever. Back in the 80s, I met several of my father's colleagues who had relocated from parts of SE/London to Cornwall. Without fail, they did not miss an opportunity to tell us that they had moved away "to get away from the blacks". While they were professional people in terms of their career, these were some of the most reactionary, racist people I have ever met. I've also lived in London where the same attitudes that are frequently brought up when criticising the Cornish were quite obvious: small-minded Londoners who had no knowledge of the world half a mile from their backdoors and in some cases, were very reluctant to travel beyond the M25 and based their knowledge of the rest of the UK on shallow caricatures. If I were to make one observation of people from the SE is that they are quite obsessed with money and like the sound of their own voices.

[Northerner]

I've also lived in London where the same attitudes that are frequently brought up when criticising the Cornish were quite obvious: small-minded Londoners who had no knowledge of the world half a mile from their backdoors and in some cases, were very reluctant to travel beyond the M25 and based their knowledge of the rest of the UK on shallow caricatures. If I were to make one observation of people from the SE is that they are quite obsessed with money and like the sound of their own voices.

Sounds a terrible place (not that I've ever been - can't afford it). Coincidence, as I was making the same point to anyone who would listen in the pub last night.

[XswampyX]

We had a development in our local village in Cornwall, they built a load of home at ridiculous prices, 1/2 sold on shared ownership to the locals, the other 1/2, full price went to BTL. The locals can't afford the BTL rent so they have moved in a load of council tenants from London because of the cheaper rents. Two rapes later and a spate of burglary's and this area is just a shit as the centre of Plymouth.

Thank you, oh great inner city dwellers. It's just what we needed down here. Just send all your old, sick, perverted, thieving wasters down here....

FFS!

[rex]

Sounds like St austell area :-0

[Frank Hovis]

We had a development in our local village in Cornwall, they built a load of home at ridiculous prices, 1/2 sold on shared ownership to the locals, the other 1/2, full price went to BTL. The locals can't afford the BTL rent so they have moved in a load of council tenants from London because of the cheaper rents. Two rapes later and a spate of burglary's and this area is just a shit as the centre of Plymouth.

Thank you, oh great inner city dwellers. It's just what we needed down here. Just send all your old, sick, perverted, thieving wasters down here....

FFS!

Heard the same about Bude but this was chavscum from Manchester on ths occasion.

Lovely people, not. Fights in the town centre every weekend now and it used to be a nice quiet place.

[TopTaff]

What's your accent?

I'm from Yorkshire. I've just to open my mouth and I'm not bothered.

This works in Cornwall and worst Dundee dive.

I think my reception might have been different with a southern english accent - posh or cokernee.

In my own head I sound like Richard Burton crossed with Tom Jones and a wee dash of Windsor Davies ( loverrrrly boy ! )

My mates at rugby club say its more like Gladys off Hi di Hi ( bing bong)

[Wurzel Of Highbridge]

Heard the same about Bude but this was chavscum from Manchester on ths occasion.

Lovely people, not. Fights in the town centre every weekend now and it used to be a nice quiet place.

When I was 16 we used to get a minibus from Camelford out to Penstow manor, the only club that would let us drink underage. That all cam to a sudden stop one night when the police decided to visit. The Good olde days, I love the coast around Bude but like the rest of Cornwall you have your ghetto areas of cheap housing and the other areas that the locals have been priced out from.

Couldn't believe Foye when I went in February, nobody there and all the pubs and shops close. They might as well put a gate on the road in and put up a closed sign outside of holidays.

We were out in Newquay a couple of weeks ago on a Saturday evening, thought we would pop into "Bertie o'Flanagans" on the way past, the place was empty.

I found it hard to believe that the club was actually shut! When I was 18/19 I used to go there twice a week fri & sat all year around, and there were always people bussed form St.Austell and Redruth etc.

I blame housing costs pushing the young out of Cornwall, but then Bristol and Plymouth city centers are dead too.

[tennaval]

Conveniently situated on B3280, giving easy access to Camborne.....at 700k grab yourself a bargain folks....

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-50032408.html

[Venger]

Read this the other week when relative rang me and asked me to log into her email account to check her emails.

I guess it's nothing new. Probably better to get a cheap small caravan.

http://money.aol.co.uk/2015/05/16/brothers-build-house-from-hay-to-escape-cornwalls-expensive-rent/

http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/14/brothers-forced-out-of-cornwall-home-by-high-rent-build-house-made-of-hay-5198381/

[Frank Hovis]

Read this the other week when relative rang me and asked me to log into her email account to check her emails.

I guess it's nothing new. Probably better to get a cheap small caravan.

http://money.aol.co.uk/2015/05/16/brothers-build-house-from-hay-to-escape-cornwalls-expensive-rent/

http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/14/brothers-forced-out-of-cornwall-home-by-high-rent-build-house-made-of-hay-5198381/

I thought it was a great idea. I see "winter lets" in the newsagent's window and wonder what the people who rent them do in summer. Well the answer is clearly struggle so good on these lads, hope they stay there through the winter too rather than line some holiday-letter's pockets.