Si1 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 It's the logical conclusion of divisive technocratic elitist monetary policy. Anything could happen now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kirk Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 16 hours ago, Si1 said: It's the logical conclusion of divisive technocratic elitist monetary policy. Anything could happen now. +1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) On 20/02/2019 at 19:09, Si1 said: It's the logical conclusion of divisive technocratic elitist monetary policy. Anything could happen now. The thing that I find hardest to understand out of all of it is why the 50+ age group seem so unhappy. Politicians have picked them to be winners for decades - rising real wages, able to buy a house and raise a family on a single wage, decent pensions, they got the house price inflation they seemed to want, politicians pander to this group far more than younger cohorts etc. So why are they convinced that they are so hard done by? Edited March 9, 2019 by Dorkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugsbody Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Dorkins said: The thing that I find hardest to understand out of all of it is why the 50+ age group seem so unhappy. Politicians have picked them to be winners for decades - rising real wages, able to buy a house and raise a family on a single wage, decent pensions, they got the house price inflation they seemed to want, politicians pander to this group far more than younger cohorts etc. So why are they convinced that they are so hard done by? This is my question too. And still a lot of them (not all) rage against the youth. It seems they had it all but also want to prevent the youth from having their turn at changing the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothernsoul Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 No group in any society ever thinks, we have had preferential treatment for so long, lets give somebody else a go. They feel entitled to what they have. In fact, the more unjust the situation , the stronger the defence of entitlement. Raging against the youth is really a justification for letting the drawbridge get pulled up while being protected themselves. The thing is, nobody actually believes in the system anymore, we just all publicly pretend to believe because it is convenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Politics isn't tearing itself apart. It's shifting. The divide is no longer between communism and capitalism, it's between globalism and nationalism. The 'elite' want a globalized world where they're in charge and raking in all the dough. The people who actually do the work want nations where they can decide their fate. Arguing about ideology is pointless when you don't have nations to argue about it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugsbody Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 On 17/03/2019 at 03:03, MarkG said: The people who actually do the work want nations where they can decide their fate. Nah. The people who do the work are usually young. And young people voted to remain in the EU, for example. It is the older generations who don't like change and want to reverse time to more nationalist days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kirk Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, dugsbody said: Nah. The people who do the work are usually young. And young people voted to remain in the EU, for example. It is the older generations who don't like change and want to reverse time to more nationalist days. So the young are fed up of doing all the work in the UK and voted remain so we could be more like other European countries? https://www.statista.com/statistics/266228/youth-unemployment-rate-in-eu-countries/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugsbody Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, Captain Kirk said: So the young are fed up of doing all the work in the UK and voted remain so we could be more like other European countries? https://www.statista.com/statistics/266228/youth-unemployment-rate-in-eu-countries/ Not sure, you'll have to ask them. I'm pointing out some stats that don't tie in with the above theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, dugsbody said: Nah. The people who do the work are usually young. No, they're not. Many companies are full of old farts because they're the only ones who can do most of the work. When those old farts retire or die, the work will stop because there's no-one competent enough to replace them. The young want globalism because they think they're going to get paid 'Universal Basic Income' to sit around playing computer games all day. Edited March 24, 2019 by MarkG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habeas Domus Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 This may seem like a wild idea, but maybe competence is not related to age at all - there are idiots of all ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 On 24/03/2019 at 12:23, Habeas Domus said: This may seem like a wild idea, but maybe competence is not related to age at all - there are idiots of all ages. But there are far less competent Millenials than kids of earlier generations. I constantly see business owners complaining online that they need to replace the old farts who want to retire, but they can't find anyone competent enough to do the work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 On 31/03/2019 at 18:46, MarkG said: But there are far less competent Millenials than kids of earlier generations. I constantly see business owners complaining online that they need to replace the old farts who want to retire, but they can't find anyone competent enough to do the work. And they're partially to blame for that. Businesses have played their part in it by deciding they can't be arsed to train people any more, refusing to recruit anyone without experience that they'll have to train up. Then the young feel screwed over. The previous generation forms the next one and they've formed the millenials to be useless. Of course they should help themselves too but they start with the odds stacked against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Riedquat said: And they're partially to blame for that. Businesses have played their part in it by deciding they can't be arsed to train people any more, refusing to recruit anyone without experience that they'll have to train up. Then the young feel screwed over. The previous generation forms the next one and they've formed the millenials to be useless. Of course they should help themselves too but they start with the odds stacked against them. Exactly, so few apprenticeships now compared to my parents generation. And lots of employeers want a junior cost with expert knowledge now. For CAD related work all i see is 2-5 years minimum experience for a CAD junoir. They dont want to train kids as, and i keep getting told "whats stopping them going to another company after we have trained them?" Maybe offer them an incentive to stay, show them some loyalty and they will probably show you some back, and pay them a wage that reflects their progression. I'm 22 years in the industry and trying to get more employees in and wanting to train the next generation. The old stock are too stuck in their ways and hampering progression "we built Concorde in 2D with pencils, so why do we need to draw a house in 3D?" Because its quicker, easier and gives a better product... but what do i know /rant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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