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I guess you would have recognised it if you were immersed in media culture in London but unfortunately, at the time, the rest of the country just went WTF?

Reminded me a bit of the guy in Paddington Green who had some sort of Hip Hop magazine.

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90's turnarond? X Files, Friends, Quantum Leap, NYPD Blue etc. Not so keen on the modern stuff though i.e. Game of Thrones - it's getting pumped out like pop music now :(

Suppose the last of decent British was the 80's - Red Dwarf, Only Fools, Open All Hours guess we were good at comedy until it all went PC! Cracker & Taggart come to mind as cop series, and Jonathan Creek!

I do recall enjoying Life on Mars but even that tailed off and the 2nd series was toss. Seems to be a correlation in the rise of the internet becoming better with TV going the opposite direction, very subjective mind.

I wouldn't knock Game of Thrones, it is probably one of the best series of recent times - but not suitable for the kids.

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GoT is the biggest missed opportunity ever. So much of it is superb but they then throw in stupid plot twists to wilfully wreck it. Why?

I like it and will probably buy the whole boxed set, when it is finished. It's nicely done, but whether a series can last seven seasons is a mystery to me. I got the whole boxed "Sopranos" but I only really watch the first four seasons. Those are the best ones.

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I like it and will probably buy the whole boxed set, when it is finished. It's nicely done, but whether a series can last seven seasons is a mystery to me. I got the whole boxed "Sopranos" but I only really watch the first four seasons. Those are the best ones.

I'm not saying I'm right but I have always been uncomfortable with the glamorisation of criminals in films and TV. I haven't, for instance, watched The Godfather despite it regularly featuring in top film listings.

It's not on principle, it's not that I really want to watch these films but won't allow myself to, I genuinely don't like them.

Breaking Bad is the only exception to this that I can think of, probably because Walter was fundamentally a decent bloke who had turned to making Meth out of desperation when he found out he was dying of cancer and didn't want his family to end up penniless when he died. Everything he did thereafter was to keep the money coming in whilst keeping his family and friends alive.

I may watch that again.

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I'm not saying I'm right but I have always been uncomfortable with the glamorisation of criminals in films and TV. I haven't, for instance, watched The Godfather despite it regularly featuring in top film listings.

It's not on principle, it's not that I really want to watch these films but won't allow myself to, I genuinely don't like them.

Breaking Bad is the only exception to this that I can think of, probably because Walter was fundamentally a decent bloke who had turned to making Meth out of desperation when he found out he was dying of cancer and didn't want his family to end up penniless when he died. Everything he did thereafter was to keep the money coming in whilst keeping his family and friends alive.

I may watch that again.

That's funny, because in the godfather Michael is a fundamentally decent bloke forced into criminal activity in order to protect his family.

The fundamental driver of both plots is the transformation of a good man to an evil man. I'd say that the main difference between the two is that the godfather does it better :)

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Also just finished watching episode 8 of Mr Robot which suffers the same problems of all of the characters being cunits so you don't form any attachment to them at all. It's also quite a rip off of Fight Club and a little bit of The Matrix. I don't want the people we are supposed to like to win. Also the plot twist in episode 8 is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen. It's like something I would have written when I was 14 and trying to be edgy in a creative writing class in school.

I'm only on episode 4, and it does feel like an unashamed rip off of fight club.

Still really enjoying it though!

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I'm not saying I'm right but I have always been uncomfortable with the glamorisation of criminals in films and TV. I haven't, for instance, watched The Godfather despite it regularly featuring in top film listings.

It's not on principle, it's not that I really want to watch these films but won't allow myself to, I genuinely don't like them.

There are a lot of films that don't add glamour to criminals. Goodfellas and Casino spring to mind. There is no glamour there, just an accurate depiction of the sordid and rather hopeless goings on. And the criminals normally get what they deserve as well.

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The BBC adaptation of The Night Manager is surprisingly good so far.

Almost makes me feel I should be paying the licence fee.

Really enjoying this too. Savagly tense.

How they manage to get so much tension into a show with George from blackadder and Tony Smart from Men behaving Badly shows some excellent acting and direction.

It is J le Carrè as well I suppose.

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I thought Walking Dead came back with a cracking episode.

yep. And this week's was a stormer. Won't spoil it....but up there with the best of any season.

Season 6, and this still has me gripped.

OK , some episodes during the seasons are light on action , but they need to pause to build the characters and plots. I guess it will be pulled once the ratings in the US fall and/or actors decide to go.

I watched LOST and gave up after season 3 as it treated the audience with contempt.

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Really enjoying this too. Savagly tense.

How they manage to get so much tension into a show with George from blackadder and Tony Smart from Men behaving Badly shows some excellent acting and direction.

It is J le Carrè as well I suppose.

Casting is excellent I think. The vicar from Rev is surprisingly sinister!

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Quite a lot of TV these days is made up of "much loved celebrities" refunctioned as presenters of docudrama/magazine programs (going for walks, wildlife, etc), and given that the remainder of the schedule is reality tripe (whose celebrities' fame is more ephemeral), is TV today creating enough actual original programming to create the necessary new supply of much loved celebrities of the future who can be refunctioned as magazine presenters to provide the alternative scheduling to reality tripe?

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