Wait & See Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Looks to me like it's another case of anyone who doesn't want a brick house in a fix location gets attacked and locked up. It looks like paranoia, as the state tries to keep us all under it's control at any cost. No one shall build shelter on land without the say so of the elite, as they must get their cut. It's all very pathetic if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vin rouge Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 They should charge travellers council tax on a daily rate wherever they stay, perhaps at band G rate and impound their caravans if they dont comply. ........plus a handling charge to cover the extra costs. Tents should be exempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erat_forte Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 They should charge travellers council tax on a daily rate wherever they stay, perhaps at band G rate and impound their caravans if they dont comply. ........plus a handling charge to cover the extra costs. Tents should be exempt. Great idea, plenty of vehicles travelling up and down the M6, I'm sure the councils whose territory it crosses would love to levy a tax on each vehicle for the time it is there. Could easily done electronically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 It's all very pathetic if you ask me. God forbid they should follow the same rules as the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmandu Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 God forbid they should follow the same rules as the rest of us. Perhaps it's time for a nice tax investigation to make sure they've been paying on their earnings. After all, they've been eating up tax revenues by the millions recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomberbrown Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) I'm in two minds about Dale Farm now after seeing all those shanty town sheds in peoples back gardens in Southall. I hate to mix metaphors, I know 2 wrongs don't make a right, but whats sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Just a thought. My personal opinion is if it aint got proper planning permission, it should be knocked down. Simple as. How would anyone feel if these buildings were erected in the vicinity of your back garden. edit: spellign Edited October 20, 2011 by bomberbrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffneck Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) Should build underground , not above ground. If you can sneak in a few shipping containers underground (holes dug by excavators in a day) you'd be set. Cover them over with fake grass = impossible to spot. Edited October 20, 2011 by Ruffneck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Bear Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Should build underground , not above ground. If you can sneak in a few shipping containers underground (holes dug by excavators in a day) you'd be set. Cover them over with fake grass = impossible to spot. I thought that you could build underground anyhow? Only building regulations to comply with but not planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustyDog Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 How many people living on run-down council estates pay council tax? How many pay any tax at all? How is Dale Farm any different to any other council estate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traktion Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) I'm in two minds about Dale Farm now after seeing all those shanty town sheds in peoples back gardens in Southall. I hate to mix metaphors, I know 2 wrongs don't make a right, but whats sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Just a thought. My personal opinion is if it aint got proper planning permission, it should be knocked down. Simple as. How would anyone feel if these buildings were erected in the vicinity of your back garden. edit: spellign IMO, legislative laws are often arbitrary and devoid of moral value. Blindly following freshly issued laws, made by liars in suits, seems rather strange to me. I posted http://www.pixi.com/~kingdom/heritage.html on another thread (http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=170562&st=150#entry3153922) and it's interesting to ponder about the legitimacy of political laws. Planning regulations have been with us for a blink of an eye, compared to the history of our civilisation. Personally, I think they should be scrapped completely. EDIT: reworded. Edited October 20, 2011 by Traktion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traktion Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I think that's right, but if you then lived in it, that's a change of use of the property to residential, which requires planning. (I can't believe I have somehow mentally acquired an understanding of the arcane niceties of this bureaucratic crud.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I'm in two minds about Dale Farm now after seeing all those shanty town sheds in peoples back gardens in Southall. I hate to mix metaphors, I know 2 wrongs don't make a right, but whats sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. They have the same thing in slough, hundreds of them...they escape because they are not a collective threat. It's a bit like Scotland and England qualifying for the (football) world cup. 100,000 Jocks and 100,000 Engs descend on the host country. 200 of the Engs have 1 fight in 1place and they are condemned by the worlds media, arrested en-mass and put in Jail. 200 jocks have 200 fights in 200 separate places and no one bats an eye-lib. Those cheeky Jocks and their tartan and bag pipes, they're just having a bit of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammo Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 There are more BBC reports there now than protesters - BBC overstaffing. Bet they couldn't be evicted before the last traveller went. Heaven forbid the sorry story is not flogged to death and then some. I suppose it's easy for the "journos" to all coalesce on a long running story and make themselves at home milking it than to actually do some work and find some new "news". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awaytogo Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 God forbid they should follow the same rules as the rest of us. Yep Same as most of their supporters, they don't agree with the system except for the benefits system that is ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awaytogo Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 How many people living on run-down council estates pay council tax? How many pay any tax at all? How is Dale Farm any different to any other council estate? Council estates have planing permission and cannot be moved next to your house without planning permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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