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If it was not for a dodgy knee the salsa/ballroom dancing classes would be my number one dating method.

Same here, apart from Mrs Bob instead of the dodgy knee.

A very good friend of mine found his wife at one of these.

Now his ex-wife of course.

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Are you sure about that? What do the ladies here think?

Mr P, v few women admit that, they always say SOH, kind caring etc etc (YAWN!)

i'm afraid the women who are lookers want lookers, usually, a few are wallet chasers but fewer than myth suggests. one thing i will say: nice clothes and hair, groomed as best as poss obviously can swing it if you are a bit funny too, but fellas with looks particularly fair hair or dark hair/olive skin can put in much less effort + still win attractive woman after woman

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salsa :rolleyes: i think it was i went to at bar something in charing cross rd

first lesson: after warm up tutor said "ok everyone, each of you find a partner!"

i looked around, i saw the friends i had come with sitting it out. i looked to the women nearest me as they became a dot on the horizon.

the music started. my partner was miss thinair.

enough said.

yes true story. they probably kept the cctv of this + show it every xmas at the staff party for a laugh.

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If the OP had a better attitude to women I think he could find a nice one without any trouble. But he seems so shallow he'll continue to get nowhere.

Where was I being shallow?

I said people on dating sites were usually: Boring, Ugly, Fat or Stupid

They are - take a look if you don't believe. Why would an educated, intelligent, professional, well groomed, relatively good looking guy want to go out with someone who is boring or stupid? Sitting in front of the TV with the depth of discussions being who is going to win x-factor aint my thing, I'd rather be dead quite frankly, and thats one of the reasons I'm single, I think I could easily find someone boring, fat, ugly or stupid (as I have in the past), but no thanks.

And I -have- been out with fat and/or ugly women, because i was trying to not be 'shallow' and hoping that their personalities would make up for the fact that they weren't pretty or slim. But they didnt. You have to find some attractive, otherwise they just become friends, and from my past relationships I realised the attraction just doesnt happen 'over time' like some people say it does. Waking up next to someone you don't fancy everyday and expecting to be able to show them affection gets rather tedious.

Am I really asking too much for a woman to be interesting, witty, funny, adventurous, semi-attractive, and non-insane? Note I said 'semi' attractive - I'm not after a stunner, just someone who I find pretty (and tbh i don't go for traditional good looks)

I think I will be following the advice from others on here, and taking a break from internet dating, devoting my time to exercise and looking good, and maybe join some classes etc and try to meet new people. Because the internet is just rejection after rejection, and its all rather depressing..

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Am I really asking too much for a woman to be interesting, witty, funny, adventurous, semi-attractive, and non-insane?

Yes you are.

I think that's one of the reasons so many people are single - they have too high expectations - they want the perfect partner. The most important thing is that you 'click' with someone. If you find their mind sexy you will find the physical side is there.

Lets face it even with the most beautiful woman you will take the looks for granted after a while. It's the mind that will make the relationship work.

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I think that we all have a massive sense of entitlement nowadays, and instead of meeting people, gradually getting to know them and seeing how things develop there is a tendency for us to go armed with a shopping list of attributes that we think we 'deserve' in a partner.

These are generic 'we's' seeing as I'm not single, but if I were I can see how easy it would be to fall into that trap.

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I think that we all have a massive sense of entitlement nowadays, and instead of meeting people, gradually getting to know them and seeing how things develop there is a tendency for us to go armed with a shopping list of attributes that we think we 'deserve' in a partner.

These are generic 'we's' seeing as I'm not single, but if I were I can see how easy it would be to fall into that trap.

agree. And if you follow the logic of most of the posters here then about 1% of the population would be with their perfect partner and everyone else single.

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Lets face it even with the most beautiful woman you will take the looks for granted after a while. It's the mind that will make the relationship work.

...and the tits. Dont forget the tits. Oh, and the ass. dont forget the ass. ...and the

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salsa :rolleyes: i think it was i went to at bar something in charing cross rd

first lesson: after warm up tutor said "ok everyone, each of you find a partner!"

i looked around, i saw the friends i had come with sitting it out. i looked to the women nearest me as they became a dot on the horizon.

the music started. my partner was miss thinair.

enough said.

yes true story. they probably kept the cctv of this + show it every xmas at the staff party for a laugh.

:(

:lol:

Stop wasting ya time with all this BS.

Take up a hobby and treat yourself once a month. Rolf will shoot his bolt when he sees this lot :lol:

http://www.photogirls.net/portfolio_london_escorts.htm

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Guest AuntJess

I've been internet dating for about 4 years now. In the beginning, it was great. Send messages, talk online, meet up, 9 times out of ten got a (maybe short) relationship out of it

Now however..I reckon 90% of the women on the sites are one or more of:

Boring

Ugly

Fat

Stupid

Not able to communicate effectively

Not actually wanting to meet up with anyone

That leaves 10%. Of these 10% (ie, the interesting, witty, funny, adventurous, semi-attractive, non-insane women), only 1 in 10 will respond to my messages. Of those that do, actually getting someone to meet up is somewhat of a challenge. I try to be interesting, funny, witty, assure them I'm not a serial killer etc. Nevertheless, I spend about 2-3 hours a week, and am, at present getting maybe one date every 2 or 3 months. Not good enough.

So what do I do? I have issues with approaching strangers. On a one to one situation I'm fine, providing I already know that person (even from chatting online). But I just can't talk to complete strangers, so meeting people at the bus stop or in the supermarket has never happened for me

At my age (early 30's) my social circle has dwindled to a few close friends (who are all settled/moved away), so i don't get out much. I work with old/married people.

I think I've got a lot to offer someone. Im decent, quite attractive, funny, and generally, believe I'm a good catch. I want to settle down, have kids etc. Not after one night stands or to 'play' anyone. I'm also no pushover either.

Any suggestions? Or anyone fancy a date? wink.gif

Non-serious suggestions are welcome too, just for the laugh..

Sorry for length..

What a lovely genuine post.biggrin.gif and don't apologise for length. If you have a tale to tell - then tell it.smile.gif

I agree it is hard to meet up with someone decent. With the arrival of nightclubs etc. there seems to be plenty of folks on the loose, but just what sort are they?ohmy.gif My Mum was a bit of a stickler about meeting the 'right sort'. She cautioned me against going to pubs/clubs atc and commented that you tend to meet "certain sorts" there. Old fashioned advice? Maybe, but still true today methinks, as I look around at where the young folks meet their partners - and not some short term sexual liaison.

In my day I joined an Amateur Operatic and Dramatic Society, where a good number of my co-performers met up with their 'mate'.

I went to ballrooom dancing lessons - specially Latin American, and there was genuine talent there.Look at SCD: they all married their partners!!

I met my OH at a tennic club dance: No, I did not play tennis nor a member of that club, but that is where I met him.cool.gif I also used to frequent sports club/cricket club dances, looking for Mr Right.

I think that joining clubs - tennis/sports/yachting etc - even just as a social member - could prove fruitful. Also try joining a nightclass, where the clientele might be mostly female.wink.gif

My son met his GF at work, and my daughter married a guy she met at work, too.

Try and look in the 'right' places, hon, if you want a genuine lass and not someone out for adventure.

Happy hunting, and don't give up. There ARE decent sorts out there, but like a good fisherman, you need to know where to "cast your line".biggrin.gif

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Guest AuntJess

Have just read through the rest lof the posts on here, which aren't answering what the OP asked. Tales of how to get 'hot totty' is scarcely applicable to a guy who wants a life partner and children.

Of those moaning about failed relationships I can only say "you pays your money, you gets your choice." If you WILL go looking for sex on legs, you will get a neurotic - possibly frigid - woman, who puts it about to try and find someone to satisfy her.She will be as hedonistic and self-seeking as you are, so you will be well-served.cool.gif

For the really uninformed - and there seems to be quite a few on hererolleyes.gif - frigidity is NOT just about not wanting to do it, it is also about not being able to get satisfaction from doing it.

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I think that we all have a massive sense of entitlement nowadays, and instead of meeting people, gradually getting to know them and seeing how things develop there is a tendency for us to go armed with a shopping list of attributes that we think we 'deserve' in a partner.

There's a lot of good sense here, and some great advice in just two lines. The rest of the thread has brought a few bedroom fantasists out of the woodwork

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I met my first wife at a party and my second at work. Work can be a goldmine depending on what you do I guess. You get an opportunity to see the person you want to go out with over a period of months or if you know and chat to plenty of the women at your work you may find they have single mates. If you know them well enough, they should protect you from their unbalanced friends and only introduce you to people they think you will get on with. In the last two years word of mouth and friends of friends has seen my work go from having over half a dozen singles to none with two weddings planned for next year.

Another thing I have seen at work is an exceptional pretty women that all the lads fancied ending up with a bloke who wasn't the Jason Statham looker, more David Jason. The reasoning was simple enough, no one had asked her if she was single/looking except this lad. He built up his confidence and bit the bullet and they seem a very happy couple now over a year on.

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I met my first wife at a party and my second at work.

What a normal person you are! Doesn't that happen to most people? Isn't that what happens? ;)

Meet people at work, parties, etc!

B u gg er the Internet, it's full of loonies!

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DICTIONARY FOR DECODING WOMEN'S PERSONAL ADS:

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40-ish................................49.

Adventurous.......................Slept with everyone.

Athletic...............................No breasts.

Average looking....................Moooo.

Beautiful..............................Pathologica l liar.

Emotionally Secure..............On medication.

Feminist..............................Fat.

Free spirit............................Junkie.

Friendship first......................Former slut.

New-Age..............................Body hair in the wrong places.

Old-fashioned.......................No BJs.

Open-minded.......................Desperate.

Outgoing..............................Loud and Embarrassing.

Professional.........................Bitch.

Voluptuous..........................Very Fat.

Large frame.........................Hugely Fat.

Bubbly personality............... Very annoying.

Wants Soul mate.................Stalker.

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DICTIONARY FOR DECODING WOMEN'S PERSONAL ADS:

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40-ish................................49.

I know that woman!

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DICTIONARY FOR DECODING WOMEN'S PERSONAL ADS:

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40-ish................................49.

Adventurous.......................Slept with everyone.

Athletic...............................No breasts.

Average looking....................Moooo.

Beautiful..............................Pathologica l liar.

Emotionally Secure..............On medication.

Feminist..............................Fat.

Free spirit............................Junkie.

Friendship first......................Former slut.

New-Age..............................Body hair in the wrong places.

Old-fashioned.......................No BJs.

Open-minded.......................Desperate.

Outgoing..............................Loud and Embarrassing.

Professional.........................Bitch.

Voluptuous..........................Very Fat.

Large frame.........................Hugely Fat.

Bubbly personality............... Very annoying.

Wants Soul mate.................Stalker.

ROFL!

What about? - Princess Seeking

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DICTIONARY FOR DECODING WOMEN'S PERSONAL ADS:

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40-ish................................49.

Adventurous.......................Slept with everyone.

Athletic...............................No breasts.

Average looking....................Moooo.

Beautiful..............................Pathologica l liar.

Emotionally Secure..............On medication.

Feminist..............................Fat.

Free spirit............................Junkie.

Friendship first......................Former slut.

New-Age..............................Body hair in the wrong places.

Old-fashioned.......................No BJs.

Open-minded.......................Desperate.

Outgoing..............................Loud and Embarrassing.

Professional.........................Bitch.

Voluptuous..........................Very Fat.

Large frame.........................Hugely Fat.

Bubbly personality............... Very annoying.

Wants Soul mate.................Stalker.

LOL!!

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I don't think internet dating is a bad thing. My boyfriends brother met his current wife online. I have a colleague at work who met his wife on the internet and got married this summer. One of my close friends who's 22 met her current boyfriend online. She's an attractive smart girl, but was sick of the boys she knew from college and wanted to expand her possibilities, that's why she gave internet dating a go and it seems to be working out for her.

They say most people meet their significant others through:-

Education (school, college, uni)

Work

My first relationship which lasted 5 years was with a guy I met at school and my current boyfriend I met him through work. Luckily we no longer work together, as I think it can have a negative effect on a relationship as things progress.

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