Mooose Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Staying with relatives in Cornwall at the moment and the bay around Falmouth has approx 13 vessels at anchor. Speaking to locals they say that this is far more than usual – normally 4 or 5 at the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooose Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 Anyone else see this - at say Portsmouth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrillsBears Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) Anyone else see this - at say Portsmouth? No but then again I'm about 90 miles away from Portsmouth... A safe distance I think edit spelling Edited January 24, 2009 by GrillsBears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOP Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Staying with relatives in Cornwall at the moment and the bay around Falmouth has approx 13 vessels at anchor. Speaking to locals they say that this is far more than usual – normally 4 or 5 at the most. Shipping crisis as global economy slows down http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/355...slows-down.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Cage Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Shipping crisis as global economy slows down http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/355...slows-down.html A firm wanting to charter the largest vessel bigger than 80,000 tonnes, known as a Capesize, would have paid $234,000 (£159,433) a day on June 5. The latest quoted rate is $8,300 (£5,677), Is there anything one can do with a 80,000 Ton cargo ship for a weekend or two? Demand for berths has been brisk, according to Capt Andy Brigden, harbour master at Truro, who is responsible for running the River Fal in Cornwall."I have been here for 21 years and I have never had so many inquiries in such a short space of time from ship owners who want to berth their vessels. "It has come from right across the board, including car carriers, bulk carriers, gas tankers and small coastal cargo vessels. "Some companies are looking to lay up ship for at least a year. "The River Fal lay up berths have always been known as the barometer of the world's economy. "When there are no ships then the economy is doing well, when it is full then it is doing badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Peasant Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) Can't speak for the state of shipping but the local Cadet training programmes are recruiting heavily for deck officers. From what I can gather, these are fairly intensive 3 year courses and there are a number of sponsorships going on. Yes, there is an element of vested interest but it takes a big commitment to train a competent deck officer with the shipping lines providing sea training. Edited January 24, 2009 by linuxgeek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wad Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 I am told that Singapore right now looks like it has a ring of steel around it from the air with line upon line of empty ships at anchor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happy? Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Anyone else see this - at say Portsmouth? Most shipping is handled through Southampton (large container port) rather than Portsmouth - mostly naval traffic and significant continental passenger / lorries heading north to Oxford/midlands. Inactive shipping is more likely to be moored offshore rather than in either Portsmouth or Southampton as mooring is very expensive - but keeping vessels off UK shores is also pricey. Shipping regularly is routed around north European ports like a delivery van routed around various towns - it's more cost effective. Taking ships out of commission is expensive - because they still need maintenance. They're more likely to be stored where labour's cheap - Africa maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Anyone else see this - at say Portsmouth? Container ships don't sail from Portsmouth, they sail from Southampton. Shipping rates has collapsed in the last few months, my company is paying less than half than the summer rate. Also, the shipping cartel was broken up by the EU (oct/nov time), so much more competitive pricing.. which hasn't helped shipping lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hip to be bear Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Most shipping is handled through Southampton (large container port) rather than Portsmouth - mostly naval traffic and significant continental passenger / lorries heading north to Oxford/midlands.Inactive shipping is more likely to be moored offshore rather than in either Portsmouth or Southampton as mooring is very expensive - but keeping vessels off UK shores is also pricey. Shipping regularly is routed around north European ports like a delivery van routed around various towns - it's more cost effective. Taking ships out of commission is expensive - because they still need maintenance. They're more likely to be stored where labour's cheap - Africa maybe? If there are a lot of ships parked of the Solent they are usually in an area south of the Nab Tower off the SW coast of the Isle of Wight. This is a traditional holding area before they berth at Southampton. I am going to Portsmouth tomorrow for the inlaws 40th wedding anniversary. I will find out and report as my father in law is a retired Trinity House Pilot so he will even be able to tell me what kinds of ships are parked up!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmyab Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 When I stayed in Cornwall over christmas and new year there were 6 or 7 large ships anchored in Mounts bay.Usually there are none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sillybear2 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Just watch out for new Russian insurance jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Spart Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) I am told that Singapore right now looks like it has a ring of steel around it from the air with line upon line of empty ships at anchor. Actually I chill out at East Coast Beach everyday and have been increasingly thinking there's more gaps in the shipping. Don't get me wrong, there's still an ever-changing armada here the size of the D-Day invasion fleet, but perhaps with one or two gaps appearing. Edited January 25, 2009 by Dave Spart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Madam Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I am told that Singapore right now looks like it has a ring of steel around it from the air with line upon line of empty ships at anchor. Yep Hong Kong is pretty similar - it is an eery sight - it kinda makes you feel at siege when walking on the coastal paths, although this is my first January here so I am not sure how unusual it is - other Hongkers folk, is it common in the post Christmas quiet months for HK to be so ringed by container ships at anchor (am just assuming that exports from Guangzhou are going to be down after the western commerce fest...)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlad Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Can't speak for the state of shipping but the local Cadet training programmes are recruiting heavily for deck officers.From what I can gather, these are fairly intensive 3 year courses and there are a number of sponsorships going on. Yes, there is an element of vested interest but it takes a big commitment to train a competent deck officer with the shipping lines providing sea training. There has been a huge shortage of cadets for a long time. I should know, I was one in 2001. Its more to do with the kind of jobs today's youth want than the condition of the enconomy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Long Now Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Just watch out for new Russian insurance jobs. I must admit, the cynical side of me thought exactly the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Monk Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Just watch out for new Russian insurance jobs. I'm guessing it ended up in Ramsgate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ayatollah Buggeri Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I am told that Singapore right now looks like it has a ring of steel around it from the air with line upon line of empty ships at anchor. I flew into Shanghai just before Christmas. We approached over the harbour area, and the number of ships I saw either tied up or at anchor must have been in the hundreds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Privateer Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 We had a phone call last week from the press asking if the economy was to blame for the large number of ships at anchor in the Moray Firth. Now, you can blame the banks for a lot of things, but even their level of carelessness can't cause a Force 10 Southeasterly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Its cos theres a massive storm in the channel! Europe is going to be isolated for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gruff Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Is there anything one can do with a 80,000 Ton cargo ship for a weekend or two? One could solve the obesity crisis by shipping half a million 150kg fatties over to France. If they want back, they can swim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Privateer Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Just watch out for new Russian insurance jobs. If she were an insurance job, they'd have filled her with something nastier. Iron ore or wheat are good for that sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justthisbloke Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 If you go here you get a real time display of all the big shipping in the Solent area. I love AIS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 If you go here you get a real time display of all the big shipping in the Solent area.I love AIS. pity they can't do that with buses :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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