SarahBell Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Rob & Mark from Progressive Property recently put on a SuperConference at Wembley for property investors, entrepreneurs and people like you who are serious about having passive income from lucrative investing… And we can all do with some extra passive income, Right? Judging from the wealth of feedback received from Twitter, FB, calls and email this was the best SuperConference yet … Over 800 people attended! So it was massive… Here’s a special invitation to see video footage of Sir Bob Geldof’s keynote speech at the 2012 PPSC for FREE https://progproperty.infusionsoft.com/go/PPSC2012BOB/M964/ Bob had the audience mesmerised with his transformational, thought provoking, captivating speech: Quote
thecrashingisles Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Bob had the audience mesmerised with his transformational, thought provoking, captivating speech: And so I told them, "Give us your fugging money!" Quote
timebandit Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Every time I click my fingers another BTL dies Quote
Diver Dan Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) And we can all do with some extra passive income, Right? I first heard the term "Passive Income" when I saw that documentary about get-rich quick / Rich Dad Poor Dad seminars a few months ago. The very idea of passive income is sticks in my craw. I believe that money earned through making a product or providing a service should be encouraged, not people lining up to stick £5 notes through your letterbox because you happen to own something. Unfortunately, the HMRC apparently think differently and tax active income far more severely. <adhominem> Although I'd expect nothing less from a failed rock-star who spawned Peaches Geldof from the DNA of Paula Yates. </adhominem> Edited April 18, 2012 by Diver Dan Quote
SirGaz Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Having just watched the commercial for this 'event', it sent shivers down my spine, the TV channels in the states were full of these type of infomercials and commercials all promising to tell you the inside secrets to property trading, how you had to act now or miss out on the opportunity of a lifetime. This was all around mid 2007 until about March/April 2008. we all know what happened next. Its just frankly scary seeing how many people get sucked into believing the crap that these things spout. Quote
Sour Mash Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 I first heard the term "Passive Income" when I saw that documentary about get-rich quick / Rich Dad Poor Dad seminars a few months ago. The very idea of passive income is sticks in my craw. I believe that money earned through making a product or providing a service should be encouraged, not people lining up to stick £5 notes through your letterbox because you happen to own something. Renting out a property shouldn't be passive unless you are doing it wrong. Too many people seem to think that being a landlord is just about checking to see that the monthly rent has come into your account whilst totting up the capital appreciation on the property. There's a substantial amount of responsibility and obligation entailed towards the tenant. Quote
57percent Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Renting out a property shouldn't be passive unless you are doing it wrong. Too many people seem to think that being a landlord is just about checking to see that the monthly rent has come into your account whilst totting up the capital appreciation on the property. There's a substantial amount of responsibility and obligation entailed towards the tenant. Even if you're a good landlord, it's not a whole lot of work. Mine is ok, but no more than a couple of emails a year and arrange the gas check and service charge. In five years, a new bed and a quick fix in the bathroom. Quote
GinAndPlatonic Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 speech at the 2012 PPSC for FREE https://progproperty.infusionsoft.com/go/PPSC2012BOB/M964/ Bob had the audience mesmerised with his transformational, thought provoking, captivating speech: I just lost any respect I had for Sir Bob...........pillok Quote
57percent Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 I just lost any respect I had for Sir Bob...........pillok You had some? Talentless chancer. Quote
Brave New World Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Always thought Geldof was a ****. Hope his pube wig gets burnt in the flames of post HPI BTL reckoning. Quote
okaycuckoo Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 And so I told them, "Give us your fugging money!" Nice! The report of his speech describes it as "incoherent" - he said some things the BTLers didn't want said. Quote
billybong Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 I certainly don't see any stampeding into buying UK property on the basis of that speech. Quote
SirGaz Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 How many contradictions can you get into thirteen minutes? that vid must be close to a record. Quote
Bland Unsight Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Renting out a property shouldn't be passive unless you are doing it wrong. Too many people seem to think that being a landlord is just about checking to see that the monthly rent has come into your account whilst totting up the capital appreciation on the property. There's a substantial amount of responsibility and obligation entailed towards the tenant. +1 Lots of late entrant BTLers are going to be lucky if they hang on long enough to find that out the hard way. Quote
Rupert The Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Its not Bob's fault. He's from Ireland where they haven't had this sort of problem. Quote
OnlyMe Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Its not Bob's fault. He's from Ireland where they haven't had this sort of problem. Magic. Quote
Bland Unsight Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Here's the Youtube link That is unbelievable, "an entrepreneur needs commitment" - fair enough, but a leveraged property entrepreneur needs tenants who can afford the rent, house prices to stay at current levels and mortgage rates to stay low. Try selling that commitment crap to the bank when you are in arrears on the mortgage. Either he's lost the plot or that was part of the next Sacha Baron Cohen project. Quote
Diver Dan Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Renting out a property shouldn't be passive unless you are doing it wrong. Too many people seem to think that being a landlord is just about checking to see that the monthly rent has come into your account whilst totting up the capital appreciation on the property. There's a substantial amount of responsibility and obligation entailed towards the tenant. I would guess that most BTL landlords use an agent who takes a cut of the rent in return for dealing with rent collection and repairs. So apart from the odd cheque for a new mattress or a boiler service or whatever, BTL doesn't require an awful amount of active work on the part of the landlord. Quote
R K Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Ghandi was a BTL entreprenewer Who the f*ck knew! Quote
Saving For a Space Ship Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) 'Boomtown Rats' is somewhat of an ironic phrase here Edited April 18, 2012 by Saving For a Space Ship Quote
porca misèria Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Renting out a property shouldn't be passive unless you are doing it wrong. Too many people seem to think that being a landlord is just about checking to see that the monthly rent has come into your account whilst totting up the capital appreciation on the property. There's a substantial amount of responsibility and obligation entailed towards the tenant. That's what agents are for. Best if (most) owners don't get involved in the management of letting their properties. Like my dividends (another one today ) don't involve me in the day-by-day running of the companies I invest in. Quote
desertorchid Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 'Boomtown Rats' is somewhat of an ironic phrase here Excellent! Indeed seems like the setting of a "Rat Trap". Quote
Saving For a Space Ship Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) Excellent! Indeed seems like the setting of a "Rat Trap". He's reformed the band as ...'A Quick Bob and the BTL Town Rats' With the remastered old classic for Eric... Edited April 20, 2012 by Saving For a Space Ship Quote
Giordano Bruno Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 That is unbelievable, "an entrepreneur needs commitment" - fair enough, but a leveraged property entrepreneur needs tenants who can afford the rent, house prices to stay at current levels and mortgage rates to stay low. Try selling that commitment crap to the bank when you are in arrears on the mortgage. Either he's lost the plot or that was part of the next Sacha Baron Cohen project. Maybe it's because of my age but that doesn't surprise me at all. The reason is that I don't take statements at face value. I try to figure why the person is saying that and what he is trying to achieve. He is trying to persuade people in the scheme to be enthusiastic and more committed, so that the people running the scam, sorry I mean the scheme, will be more successful in fleecing the suckers. He was probably asked to say something like that to persuade people who might be wavering or not investing enough.Just my take. Quote
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