Badger Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 15 out of 60 notified same day as a company meeting. Mainly because of a large client 'not committing' to anything next year. After the meeting we were told to wait at our desks until contacted by phone or email, after about an hour & a half my dept told we were in the clear as we were 'core' staff to the business. Phew isn't the word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ʎqɐqɹǝʞɐɥs Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 15 out of 60 notified same day as a company meeting. Mainly because of a large client 'not committing' to anything next year. After the meeting we were told to wait at our desks until contacted by phone or email, after about an hour & a half my dept told we were in the clear as we were 'core' staff to the business. Phew isn't the word What industry are you in and what is your core job? And congratulations on keeping your job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadman Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I'm pleased for you too Badger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kman Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 (edited) I'm pleased for you too Badger. lost my job this week. 1/3 of work force culled across the board. Senior engineer Aston Martin Edited December 5, 2008 by kman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Forthehills Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 (edited) ''15 out of 60 notified same day as a company meeting. Mainly because of a large client 'not committing' to anything next year. After the meeting we were told to wait at our desks until contacted by phone or email, '' Seems a pretty unprofessional, manipulative and sinister way to treat staff. It is a shame that in the current climate it is a bit more difficult to tell them where to stick their deselection procedures. Edited December 5, 2008 by Ron Forthehills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted December 5, 2008 Author Share Posted December 5, 2008 Seems a pretty unprofessional, manipulative and sinister way to treat staff. It is a shame that in the current climate it is a bit more difficult to tell them where to stick their deselection procedures. Some did, & went before the 'process' was entered into. ps best not go into detail about what I do just yet, suffice to say it's 'creative'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sortofsilver Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Not to rain on your relief but i think this Winston Churchill quote applies right now "Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightiesgirly Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 So sad to see many on here losing jobs, very stresfull. I am honestly horrified at the method some firms seem to adopt for informing staff of job losses. Are management so insensitve to people's feelings? I may have the wrong end of the stick here, but it seems very callous to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sortofsilver Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 So sad to see many on here losing jobs, very stresfull. I am honestly horrified at the method some firms seem to adopt for informing staff of job losses. Are management so insensitve to people's feelings? I may have the wrong end of the stick here, but it seems very callous to me. My firm annouced that we were going on short time then stuck a notice on the Coffee Machine saying people were going to be made redundant. Classy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadman Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 lost my job this week. 1/3 of work force culled across the board. Senior engineer Aston Martin Very bad luck kman Bro-in-law just lost his management role at Cummins (diesel engine manufacturer). The automotive industry is in deep shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allthatglitters Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 So sad to see many on here losing jobs, very stresfull. I am honestly horrified at the method some firms seem to adopt for informing staff of job losses. Are management so insensitve to people's feelings? I may have the wrong end of the stick here, but it seems very callous to me. My missus was laid off with a few minutes notice at her place a few months back because she was the only member of staff (among about 14) having less than 1 year in post. She was one day away from the protection that brings. As they were telling her she was to pack up her things ASAP, they were locking her out of the IT systems. Heartless Bastards! :angry: The gave the rest of them the bullet last Friday mind you. But at least they got some notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightiesgirly Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 My firm annouced that we were going on short time then stuck a notice on the Coffee Machine saying people were going to be made redundant. Classy! My God!, it's no wonder the country is going to the dogs if this is the calibre of management. Disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted Lurker Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 lost my job this week. 1/3 of work force culled across the board. Senior engineer Aston Martin Christ on a fukcin bike an engineer of Aston Martins gets canned. Engineers getting binned anywhere really depresses my view of commerce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piece of paper Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Some did, & went before the 'process' was entered into. ps best not go into detail about what I do just yet, suffice to say it's 'creative'. HM Treasury press office? p-o-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Some did, & went before the 'process' was entered into. ps best not go into detail about what I do just yet, suffice to say it's 'creative'. "Creatives" the world over. http://www.thedrum.co.uk/news/2008/12/03/9...e-up-to-35-jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightiesgirly Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Christ on a fukcin bike an engineer of Aston Martins gets canned. Engineers getting binned anywhere really depresses my view of commerce. Most of the skill base is gone in this country, we used to make good stuff years ago. Sad, very sad. I remember the 'Thatch' decimating the North East, steelworkers, shipbuilders, miners, all those skilled men put out to grass, playing dominoes and skittles. Destroyed a generation. Personally I think we are paying the price for such folly now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurejon Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Common sense would have told most people that Globalisation was more than just sending off a few hundred thousand keyboard tapping jobs to India. Engineers now abound in low cost countries, Legal work, Finance such as Acountancy, and a host of other once thought of protected jobs are now offshored. The stark reality is that business has over the past years gone for the cheapest labour, removing the local workforce and using offshore resources. And anyone who argued with this was a dinasaur, standing in the way of progress. You reap the crop from the seeds that you sow, and if you dont plant for a season, you have no seeds for the following year to plant. Well not wishing to be heralded as the new sherlock, but if you remove British Jobs to go offshore, then in no time you have removed the skill base, then you have removed the consumers who buy your products. So as it was a race to the top for profit, its now a race to the bottom for bankruptcy. Its not fcking rocket science is it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the end is a bit nigher Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 well, my contract ended today and not a lot out there - the good thing about contracting is you usually have a good idea of when you will next be out of work and i have been saving accordingly - however, we had some redundancies at work this week and the impact on the staff is horrible to watch - sympathies and good luck to you guys losing your jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittingerjump Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 To those that have lost their jobs, I am really sorry. To those that have lost their jobs in an undignified way, I hope that you can find better companies. Real skilled industry is hard to find now. My sincere wishes to those affected and stick in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kagiso Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Seems a pretty unprofessional, manipulative and sinister way to treat staff. It is a shame that in the current climate it is a bit more difficult to tell them where to stick their deselection procedures. I am currently working (contracting) in a particularly disfunctional bit of London Underground. A group of us have been told to prepare spreadsheets to 'justify' our time and presence in the office, slowly building up over the last few weeks as a 'review'. As a contractor it is pretty obvious the director has been given a budget cut and needs to shed staff, but everything is whispers in corridors. One health and safety woman has just disappeared. Was there on Tuesday, not been seen since. I have fairly good skills, and with the STR fund in the bank, and not particularly liking the work, I am fairly sanguine. Some of the other guys with wives, children and mortgages to support are taking it very badly, the stress is clearly getting to them. The general atmosphere is poisonous, and the contractors who haven't been directly threatened are jumping overboard asap. I came in one lunchtime from the sandwich shop to encounter two contractors busy on mobile phones in the stairwell. Any sensible boss would have drawn up a short list of the least able with his senior staff in an afternoon and paid them off in one stroke. As a result of diabolically bad management dragging the pain out, the director is losing all best staff and will be left with all the wasters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittingerjump Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 As a result of diabolically bad management dragging the pain out, the director is losing all best staff and will be left with all the wasters. Exactly, it's kind of been mirrored in politics and in the land of 'celebrity'. Too many wasters and pen pushers and not enough maverick people that can be seen as great role models. I'm not even talking about a nation of millionaires but people that are proud of their skill(s) and actually are rewarded or at least recognised for their unique addition to the overall country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurejon Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I am currently working (contracting) in a particularly disfunctional bit of London Underground. A group of us have been told to prepare spreadsheets to 'justify' our time and presence in the office, slowly building up over the last few weeks as a 'review'. As a contractor it is pretty obvious the director has been given a budget cut and needs to shed staff, but everything is whispers in corridors. One health and safety woman has just disappeared. Was there on Tuesday, not been seen since.I have fairly good skills, and with the STR fund in the bank, and not particularly liking the work, I am fairly sanguine. Some of the other guys with wives, children and mortgages to support are taking it very badly, the stress is clearly getting to them. The general atmosphere is poisonous, and the contractors who haven't been directly threatened are jumping overboard asap. I came in one lunchtime from the sandwich shop to encounter two contractors busy on mobile phones in the stairwell. Any sensible boss would have drawn up a short list of the least able with his senior staff in an afternoon and paid them off in one stroke. As a result of diabolically bad management dragging the pain out, the director is losing all best staff and will be left with all the wasters. Are you aware that savings over 3k would make you ineligable to claim any benefits should you lose your job ? I left my job and currently doing some training before returning to Oz, however was suprised to find that having paid over 2k per month in deductions for the past five years I am entitled to nothing at all because I have savings. For sure 60 quid a week is not going to pay for much else than my fags, or half a night out on a Saturday with a walk home rather than the usual 20 quid taxi. But it would be nice to see that people who saved for a rainy day are not penalised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootfair Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 (edited) What about contributions based Job Seekers Allowance. I thought that was ok for more than 3k in savings? However, if you are training more than 16 hours per week, that counts as a full time course and you get nothing. Are you aware that savings over 3k would make you ineligable to claim any benefits should you lose your job ?I left my job and currently doing some training before returning to Oz, however was suprised to find that having paid over 2k per month in deductions for the past five years I am entitled to nothing at all because I have savings. For sure 60 quid a week is not going to pay for much else than my fags, or half a night out on a Saturday with a walk home rather than the usual 20 quid taxi. But it would be nice to see that people who saved for a rainy day are not penalised. Edited December 5, 2008 by bootfair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-wife's-knickers Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 (edited) I work with young criminals and have never had so many referrals. Our research suggests that the shortage (or total absence) of modern apprenticeships in construction/engineering during the typical June to September recruiting season is to blame. This has forced/reduced more working class boys to petty crime and drunken behaviour etc. The number of school leavers without a 'destination' (ie. work, training, FE, HE) in our latest survey has increased by a sixth. Edited December 5, 2008 by the-wife's-knickers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurejon Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I work with young criminals and have never had so many referrals. Our research suggests that the shortage (or total absence) of modern apprenticeships in construction/engineering during the typical June to September recruiting season is to blame. This has forced/reduced more working class boys to petty crime and drunken behaviour etc.The number of school leavers without a 'destination' (ie. work, training, FE, HE) in our latest survey has increased by a sixth. We have a socialist party in power, need I remind you. Why waste money on educating the workforce when the money is better spent on building prisons to put them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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