The Masked Tulip Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Yesterday a few Media outlets carried the story, nay rumours, that Darling is thinking of giving people between 1 and 2 thousand to get rid of their gas guzzling cars. Today, we have rumours of a stamp duty holiday. Is this anyway to run a Government? It appears to be that they are so desperate that they are leaking policy to the Media just to see what the reaction is first. Sounds like a Government in a BIG hole and panicking about being kicked out of Office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherProle Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Why dont they just give us all a 100k govt backed mortgage voucher and be done with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyB Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 so get rid of your 6 grand car... for 1-2k? erm... how about no... thats my opinion!!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richc Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I find the incompetence of this government truly baffling. Brown's supporters argue that his weakness in communications and tactics is made up for by his strength in strategic vision. OK, so what is that strategic vision? Can anyone find one policy that reflects that strategy? What is his strategy for dealing with growing economic inequality? That would be eliminate the 10p band and raise taxes for the poorest in society, allow council taxes (disproportionately paid by lower and middle income households) to increase by 5% a year for years on end, and, at the same time, eliminate stamp duty, one of the few taxes where the wealthy actually paid their fair share of taxes. This government is bonkers. Everything is done to drive headlines, with no thought given to the consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Yesterday a few Media outlets carried the story, nay rumours, that Darling is thinking of giving people between 1 and 2 thousand to get rid of their gas guzzling cars. Today, we have rumours of a stamp duty holiday.Is this anyway to run a Government? It appears to be that they are so desperate that they are leaking policy to the Media just to see what the reaction is first. Sounds like a Government in a BIG hole and panicking about being kicked out of Office. They are bankrupt. They only have what they can steal, and that depends on the ability of the population to produce and/or borrow AND the willingness of the population to hand over their money more or less with no effort from the government. Tey also need inflation to pay the bills. Everything they do reduces production, everything they do is pure overhead with no benefit. The more they do, the worse things get. STATE FAILURE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherProle Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I find the incompetence of this government truly baffling. Brown's supporters argue that his weakness in communications and tactics is made up for by his strength in strategic vision. OK, so what is that strategic vision? Can anyone find one policy that reflects that strategy?What is his strategy for dealing with growing economic inequality? That would be eliminate the 10p band and raise taxes for the poorest in society, allow council taxes (disproportionately paid by lower and middle income households) to increase by 5% a year for years on end, and, at the same time, eliminate stamp duty, one of the few taxes where the wealthy actually paid their fair share of taxes. This government is bonkers. Everything is done to drive headlines, with no thought given to the consequences. I think they are just paralysed at the moment, backstabbing and infighting like starving pigs at the last chance trough, nobody wants to piss off the electorate even more than they already have (lost cause there anyway), and you expect sane policy to emit from the decaying bloated beast of a govt in it's death throes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AteMoose Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Yesterday a few Media outlets carried the story, nay rumours, that Darling is thinking of giving people between 1 and 2 thousand to get rid of their gas guzzling cars. Today, we have rumours of a stamp duty holiday.Is this anyway to run a Government? It appears to be that they are so desperate that they are leaking policy to the Media just to see what the reaction is first. Sounds like a Government in a BIG hole and panicking about being kicked out of Office. who do you give the car too? can i give my car to my other half who then sells it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sossij Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 They are bankrupt. They only have what they can steal, and that depends on the ability of the population to produce and/or borrow AND the willingness of the population to hand over their money more or less with no effort from the government. Tey also need inflation to pay the bills. Everything they do reduces production, everything they do is pure overhead with no benefit. The more they do, the worse things get. STATE FAILURE. Hey, you're back! Groovy. ...or is it an illusion....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Hey, you're back! Groovy....or is it an illusion....? All flesh is grass. Probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sossij Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 All flesh is grass. Probably. Especially if one is a cow How was the break? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Especially if one is a cow How was the break? Funky. Moved house even, a feat which I will have to do again in a few weeks. Such is life on the margins. Hey ho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbn Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 They are bankrupt. They only have what they can steal, and that depends on the ability of the population to produce and/or borrow AND the willingness of the population to hand over their money more or less with no effort from the government. Tey also need inflation to pay the bills. Everything they do reduces production, everything they do is pure overhead with no benefit. The more they do, the worse things get. STATE FAILURE. I'm glad you're back around Injin - & I think this is a brilliant post. To my mind you are filling a cgnao shaped hole that sadly appeared on this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabe Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 so get rid of your 6 grand car... for 1-2k?erm... how about no... thats my opinion!!! lol ...or alternatively go buy a £500 wreck, register in your name and then get paid £1-2k to get shot of it. I smell a bubble... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvenal Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 All flesh is grass. Probably. We are born astride a grave. It is merely a matter of time until we fall into it. Still. Chin up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tummybanana Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I have a theory. Opposite where I work, there's a couple of billboards. In the last few weeks, the following companies have been there. Barratt HBOS Bradford and Bingley Lexus. Judging by this Belwether, the next company to hit recession will be Virgin Media. Which kind of makes sense bearing in mind how much of a discretionary service a lot of their "XXL" packages are. Plus, there were ructions last year about them being taken over by a VC firm whose name escapes me for now. In fact, in a previous life, I wrote a proposal for Carphone Warehouse/AOL UK buying them out. Discuss. (Or not, whatever) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ayatollah Buggeri Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 so get rid of your 6 grand car... for 1-2k?erm... how about no... thats my opinion!!! If you have a 10 year-old, 150k mile banger which has devalued to the point of being effectively worthless, then £1-2k off a replacement doesn't seem quite as ridiculous. The problem is that the people who are currently running that sort of vehicle are very unlikely to have the money to replace it with the sort of car (i.e. a new or nearly new one) NuLab has in mind. An effective £1-2k discount off a £10k car isn't going to make it affordable for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meow Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I'm glad you're back around Injin - & I think this is a brilliant post.To my mind you are filling a cgnao shaped hole that sadly appeared on this site. Hmmmm *unconvinced* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sillybear2 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 STATE FAILURE. You finally got out of Heathrow, thank f**k. Good to see you back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sillybear2 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 who do you give the car too? can i give my car to my other half who then sells it? You have a polluting car, the government bribes you to sell it, I then buy it (and drive x2 the miles)... and how does this help the environment exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sillybear2 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 To my mind you are filling a cgnao shaped hole that sadly appeared on this site. Quite, I can remember CGNAO well, I was actually on the phone with him when he was pottering around the house/bunker in a confused state and decided to pull a large box from the top shelf of his cupboard, I heard a metallic noise and then a large thud and then the line went dead... I haven't heard from him since, he stopped posting on here too, weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RajD Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 They are bankrupt. They only have what they can steal, and that depends on the ability of the population to produce and/or borrow AND the willingness of the population to hand over their money more or less with no effort from the government. Tey also need inflation to pay the bills. Everything they do reduces production, everything they do is pure overhead with no benefit. The more they do, the worse things get. STATE FAILURE. How can I be sure this is the real Injin and not a fiat version? Welcome back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minos Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Yesterday a few Media outlets carried the story, nay rumours, that Darling is thinking of giving people between 1 and 2 thousand to get rid of their gas guzzling cars. Today, we have rumours of a stamp duty holiday.Is this anyway to run a Government? It appears to be that they are so desperate that they are leaking policy to the Media just to see what the reaction is first. Sounds like a Government in a BIG hole and panicking about being kicked out of Office. Given that a large proportion of the population is in deep debt I suspect they will be running a slide rule over the accounts of savers. A 10% haircut should keep them going for a while longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirge Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I'm sure they'll just give you a coupon you can redeem £2k off the purchase of a NEW CAR!! ..off course the majority of the carbon hoofprint is created when the ******er is made, why can't we have money to keep our existing cars on the road? or have gov penaties on car makers that have crap cars that need replacing every 5 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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