Guest Steve Cook Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 (edited) Not just me who's been on the pop this afternoon then But yes. God bless hpc and all who sail in her Actually, your're not wrong about the pop.... Had some friends round this afternoon. Probably explains my reaction in a previous post.......... Steve Edited March 30, 2008 by Steve Cook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sossij Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Actually, your're not wrong about the pop....Had some friends round this afternoon. Probably explains my reaction in a previous post.......... Steve Heh heh. Nice one. Today has been quite a day, hasn't it? Think I'll go out tomorrow and get a great big badge that says I TOLD YOU SO! on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash2006 Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 How do you know who made those bad comments, it could have been VI for all we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve Cook Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Your'e right about the agent provoceteur.... Anyways.... Took another full ook at the comments on the site..... They're finished...... Utterly finished... Game over... no doubt it.... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest X-QUORK Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 There are some reallly stupid f*ckers around. I am hoping that none of them are from this site but I wouldn't be surprised if there were one or two.We now have the whole stinking edifice of the current housing market on its knees. Its not a done deal yet though. but it is looking inceasingly likely. When some bloody fools go on to the newspaper comment site and post defamatory or even threatening messages, they bring this site into disrepute. They run the risk of the owners of this site facing prosecution for slander at best and incitement to violence at worst. This kind of thing could be used as an excuse to close a site like this down. If any of those people are on here, shame on you you morons. They are giving these b*st*rds all the amunition they need to ridicule us at best and shut us down at worst. None of the above means that we can't slice the bastards up. But we can do this simply by using REASONED ARGUMENT. If anybody resorts to personal abuse, they can be dismissed as idiots or even dangeropus looneys. Think I am overreacting? I am hoping that even if the people who posted defamatory comments can be shown to be also memebers of our forum, the forum itself cannot be held responsible since the posters did not post in the site's name. Nevertheless, mud sticks. We'll see. I totally agree with your sentiment, however I don't see how this website could possibly be held responsible for individuals posting comments on another website. Let's keep things in proportion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehead Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 I was laughing so hard at one point I was struggling for air. Yep, loved that nmarks. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSWHPC Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 (edited) Incredible strength of opinion in the comments! Obviously HPC and similar websites are not a minority. Edited March 30, 2008 by earl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearback Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 I totally agree with your sentiment, however I don't see how this website could possibly be held responsible for individuals posting comments on another website. Let's keep things in proportion. I agree with this. It was good fun reading those comments as they came through. I dont think this will be the end now the comments have been stopped, surely there has to be a follow up article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehead Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Can somebody please post one of these abusive comments you are refering to. I honestly haven't found any that qualify, imo. As such, I'm beginning to wonder whether I might be one of the authors! But seriously, which ones are you refering to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve Cook Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 I totally agree with your sentiment, however I don't see how this website could possibly be held responsible for individuals posting comments on another website. Let's keep things in proportion. Fair enough....I do need to keep it in proportion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest An Bearin Bui Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Spencer getting upset this week , Ann Ashworth losing it recently , Rosie Millard last week having a rant about FTBers ........ http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/ind...showtopic=71724 these "experts" are droping like flies It's funny because I was expecting a deluge of propaganda and HPC-denial in the media as soon as we got close to a YOY negative figure i.e. from spring of this year until about November when all hope of a spring/summer bounce is gone. Never, ever, in all my conjectures did I believe we'd see such a volume of vitriol and that so much of it would be directed specifically at this site and the views it represents. Millard's article last week in the Times was way out of order, she was blatantly sneering and having a go at ordinary young people who are just trying to get started in life and happen to have got caught up in an insane asset bubble not of their making. Then this article today, again, is just way out of order. The fact that references are made to a "property crash website" but no specific allegations are detailed and the site itself isn't named is just cowardly. It's great the web has so much power and that it's p1ssing off established media sources so much they feel the need to hit back but to me it's a very strange and suspicious article and choice of words, especially the comment another poster alerted us to that was apparently from Kirsty Allsopp about IP addresses being tracked. I just can't believe established media sources are that worried about an internet forum - they have had total control of the airwaves, print media and TV for the last 7 years to ram property hype down our necks as passive media consumers and now they want to put surveillance on the only small source of alternative viewpoints available to us? :angry: The main reason I found this site and started posting was because I was so completely fed up of the economically uninformed tripe being put out by the mainstream media - now it looks like our tiny window of informal protest isn't permitted either. I knew property and finance were the cornerstone of the UK establishment and that a lot of vested interests are behind all the property hype but I had no idea they were this determined to maintain such a level of control. This shows up the mainstream media for the cowardly hacks they really are. :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Peasant Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 A mods gone through the comments and removed some of the more colourful responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve Cook Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 (edited) Actually.... It's official.... I am a self rightious pratt.... Taken a look at all of the comments on the Telegraph comments section again, .......in detail. Every word deserved. I'm gonna slope off now before I make a bigger ar*e of myself than i already have done.... Steve Edited March 30, 2008 by Steve Cook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearback Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 A mods gone through the comments and removed some of the more colourful responses. This one has been removed I would love to see Kirstie in a blue movie.Having to take 10 very large black kochs which make her scream in pain. (She would deserve the pain though for all the problems she has caused young British families) All proceeds from sales could then go to help families facing repossession. Posted by James on March 30, 2008 6:11 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve Cook Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 All material on this post has been edited using the pomposity filter.....Steve Cook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve Cook Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 (edited) This one has been removed And there was me thinking I had imagined that one cos I was pissed. Nonthelss, still a self rightious a*se.... Edited March 30, 2008 by Steve Cook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehead Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 This one has been removedI would love to see Kirstie in a blue movie.Having to take 10 very large black kochs which make her scream in pain. (She would deserve the pain though for all the problems she has caused young British families) All proceeds from sales could then go to help families facing repossession. Posted by James on March 30, 2008 6:11 PM I see what you mean. That really is objectionable. Why do people think they can post such blatantly racist remarks? ( ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backseat Economist Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Well, just come back from a day out and had a chance to sit down with a cuppa. Jeez I've missed all the fun haven't I? Having read all comments and the article itself I can only conclude that the balance has now inexorably shifted. Clearly we've moved to anger phase with the VI's and their now ramping up the vitriol against this website and anyone else who might just want to quietly suggest that HP's are not a one way ticket. Along with the days when the credit markets dried up, the run on Northern Rock happened, then the Bear Stearns bail out, for me, this has now been added to the list. I really think this represents the day when people started to wake up and understand exactly what's happened over the last six/seven years, but more importantly - WHY! I can't for a second believe that all the posters on there are here as well, so for some people clearly the realisation of what's about to hit has registered. It also shows the depth of feeling there is in my generation especially about what's happened to the housing market and why so many people feel powerless to do any more than work, then party and drink it all away. Kirstie and Phil will become the sacrificial lambs for the general public to spit roast, but it's the central banks' responsibility for lowering rates too much causing the initial credit surge who should be held to account. Lax financial and self regulation compounded the problems and this is where we've ended up. The TV property porn angle was really the icing on the cake, but dragged far more people into the mix than should have been the case. Throw in most of the populace having no real grounding in finance and economics and you have the recipe for big problems dead ahead. GT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Skint Academic Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Millard's article last week in the Times was way out of order, she was blatantly sneering and having a go at ordinary young people who are just trying to get started in life and happen to have got caught up in an insane asset bubble not of their making. I remember some old fart phoned up a phone in on Radio 2 (Jeremy Vine I think) and was ranting about 'vultures' who just hang around waiting for prices to drop during the last crash? WTF?? There are some people so full of their self importance who really do think that the rest of us should put ourselves into a lifetime of debt slavery for their comfortable lifestyle. Reality is the worst and best thing you can wish upon these people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slumpmonkey Returns Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 (edited) Quite simply fellow HPCers - we have won the argument. The VI's are on the back foot and they are panicking!!! Today is a truly great day in HPC history! Edited March 30, 2008 by SlumpmonkeyII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geed Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Looks like they have stopped new posts on the article as none have appeared since 6:23pm, I attempted to post this.... " I am a proud housepricecrash.co.uk contributor and have been in some way shape or form since 2004. We number many and we are growing by the day as more and more people are quickly realising that the dynamics of the property market have not changed. The market is cyclical, always has been and always will be. We are now on the downward cusp of a mammoth correction which will see the value of most privately purchased properties in this country fall by 30%+ over the next 2-3 years, and some would consider my predictions as conservative. But to many this is old news now. I have kept out of the housing market due to the vast amount of knowledge I have picked up from hpc.co.uk. The site has a motley crew of posters including well informed professional financial advisors, city traders, amateur investors (including BTLers) and the general individual from the street. We all have one thing in common, we are keen to develop an opinion on the housing market and the general state of the economy based on impartial research from as many different sources as possible. Over the last few years it has been noted that there has been significant house price inflation ramping from a variety of sources and media outlets. There has been very little sound advice out there for the average person wishing to own a home. Media sources, in general, offered prejudiced information regarding the property market and rarely outlined the pitfalls linked to purchasing a home. The terms negative equity and repossession were often used in the nineties and look likely to become increasingly popular once again, but these terms were never discussed on Phil and Kirsty’s programs. I do believe these two should take the criticism aimed at them squarely on the jaw for offering bad, biased advice – although the threatening nature of some of the criticism should not be tolerated. However, these two individuals should not be made a scapegoat for fat cat TV directors who allowed such poorly judged property nonsense to be broadcast in the first place. As for David Harrison, you talk of the “property speculators, gamblers who bet on house prices falling - and have a vested interest in talking down the market and spreading fear and uncertainty.” All we want is affordable homes to bring our children up in. You also appear to have your lines crossed as the “speculators” and “gamblers” you describe are the very types that bet on house prices going up not down including Mr Spencer and Kirsty. Every silver lining has a cloud and for many the future forecast is glum and overcast. Does this make me a “doomster”? No, Rational? Yes." See if it turns up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearback Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Krusty/Phil/Millard etc are getting very angry. I don't think it will be long before one of them has a rant on tv keegan style - "I'm telling you now, I'll luv if house prices go up, luv it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Krusty/Phil/Millard etc are getting very angry. I don't think it will be long before one of them has a rant on tv keegan style - "I'm telling you now, I'll luv if house prices go up, luv it" Or a drunken Delia Smith: "Come on, we need some buyers out here! Where are you? Let's be 'avin' you!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 All I have to say about whatashisname, is, who is he ? I dont care enough to have an opinion on him. Ouch, thats gonna hurt a celebs ego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsea13 Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Alternatively, it could be agent provocateurs posting to give a bad name to hpc. As some of the others said, it doesn´t really matter, as it´s all over bar the shouting. It would be a shame if hpc did get closed down as I´ve learned much more about economics here than I ever did at school. HPC will never die. If they even try to close down this site I will go and personally duff up Bill Gates (the King of the Internet!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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