Grayphil Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 On 14/03/2023 at 20:11, rollover said: US drone violates boundaries of airspace near the Crimean Peninsula A MQ-9 American drone was detected by Russian airspace control means near the Crimean Peninsula, it violated the boundaries of the area of the temporary airspace regime established during the special operation. The Russian airspace control systems have detected an American MQ-9 unmanned aerial vehicle flying over the Black Sea near the Crimean Peninsula in the direction of the state border of the Russian Federation," the ministry said. "The drone flew with its transponders off. According to the ministry, following abrupt maneuvering the drone "went into an unguided flight with a loss of altitude and collided with the water surface." The Russian aircraft did not use on-board weapons, did not come into contact with the unmanned aerial vehicle. tass Awkward, that the camera footage has been released, showing that TASS and the Russian Ministry have been lying, again. What a surprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayphil Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 hours ago, mynamehere said: I wonder if the Russia thought it through. Attacking a surveillance drone stuffed full of cameras, then lying about what happened... They really have managed to once again show how much they lie. The fact this was circulated makes me wonder what the US will make from this position? Are they trying to just galvanise more support at home, or will they treat it a bit more seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Grayphil said: They really have managed to once again show how much they lie. The fact this was circulated makes me wonder what the US will make from this position? Are they trying to just galvanise more support at home, or will they treat it a bit more seriously? Quelle surprise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 I imagine the US had their own search crews out there anyway; cat and mouse with the Russians. They don't need a ship in the black sea to launch helicopters etc, just some friendly NATO countries like Turkey and Romania. And isn't there a US carrier in the Med too which is pretty handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Grayphil said: They really have managed to once again show how much they lie. The fact this was circulated makes me wonder what the US will make from this position? Are they trying to just galvanise more support at home, or will they treat it a bit more seriously? Coma Joe won't do anything cos he's a preachy weakling and a coward. Your man Trumpy, would though. 'Environmentally unsound and unprofessional.' 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sackboii Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Grayphil said: Awkward, that the camera footage has been released, showing that TASS and the Russian Ministry have been lying, again. Oh they'll just deny the footage, say it wasn't them, state it is a Western ploy to discredit Russia, etc, etc, etc. "It wasn't us, guv.." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 The Tory boys warn of 'consequences' for the drone attack, approved at the highest levels of the Kremlin by none other than President Xi. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11868565/Tories-warn-consequences-Russian-fighter-jet-attack-drone.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satsuma Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 27 minutes ago, zugzwang said: Coma Joe won't do anything cos he's a preachy weakling and a coward. Your man Trumpy, would though. 'Environmentally unsound and unprofessional.' 😆 You do talk nonsense. President Biden has visited Ukraine which is something PooTin would be afraid to do. As for Trump, he's a Kremlin stooge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, satsuma said: You do talk nonsense. President Biden has visited Ukraine which is something PooTin would be afraid to do. As for Trump, he's a Kremlin stooge. If he doesn't shoot back he'll be known forever as a craven and a patsy. Trumpy's already miles ahead in the polls. This incident could seal the deal for the orange man. @Grayphil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satsuma Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, zugzwang said: If he doesn't shoot back he'll be known forever as a craven and a patsy. Trumpy's already miles ahead in the polls. This incident could seal the deal for the orange man. @Grayphil Again, nonsense, the Republicans are saying they don't support Ukraine, this incident is a massive own goal for Russia, dumb move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayphil Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, zugzwang said: If he doesn't shoot back he'll be known forever as a craven and a patsy. Trumpy's already miles ahead in the polls. This incident could seal the deal for the orange man. @Grayphil This incident won't seal the deal, quite the reverse in my opinion, attacks on American equipment are hardly going to make the average American love Putin harder. Nah, the pilots that did this, are probably not having the finest moment of their careers right now As for the next election, can't say who will win, what is clear, is that the Kremlin disinfo game is strong, and lots of Americans seem very susceptible to it, let's hope that Ukraine has managed to push back big time against Russia this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynamehere Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 USA will probably use this as an excuse to backfill some jets for Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, Grayphil said: This incident won't seal the deal, quite the reverse in my opinion, attacks on American equipment are hardly going to make the average American love Putin harder. Nah, the pilots that did this, are probably not having the finest moment of their careers right now As for the next election, can't say who will win, what is clear, is that the Kremlin disinfo game is strong, and lots of Americans seem very susceptible to it, let's hope that Ukraine has managed to push back big time against Russia this summer. Donald Trump jr. is already baiting the Dems with it. Trumpy must be exultant. Even if they put him in jail he'll still win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, mynamehere said: USA will probably use this as an excuse to backfill some jets for Ukraine. The UK is going to throw a fistful of I.O.U.'s at the Russkies. If they do it again we're going to surrender unconditionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, zugzwang said: If he doesn't shoot back he'll be known forever as a craven and a patsy. Trumpy's already miles ahead in the polls. This incident could seal the deal for the orange man. @Grayphil Is this the @zugzwang who claimed he was advocating peace and it was all evil Westerners stirring trouble? Sounds very much like a desperate attempt to call for US to shoot at the Russians. But then the courangeous PLA he loves were the ones who ran away from a mob of 100 drunk S Sudan militia and refused to leave their base to help women and aid workers being raped and killed 200m away so maybe he struggles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 29 minutes ago, zugzwang said: Donald Trump jr. is already baiting the Dems with it. Trumpy must be exultant. Even if they put him in jail he'll still win! Donald Trump Jr couldn't bait a fishing hook let alone a mental trap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 35 minutes ago, mynamehere said: USA will probably use this as an excuse to backfill some jets for Ukraine. Or send manned aircraft - raises the stakes are Russia going to try and crash into a manned aircraft. Then next level is give them an escort and tell the Russians endangering the aircraft be treated as a hostile act over intl waters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynamehere Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Maybe Russia needs some USA intervention to give their mobilisation push a bit of extra oomph. Can’t be easy to mobilise 400k as must wondering where the other 500k went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, mynamehere said: Maybe Russia needs some USA intervention to give their mobilisation push a bit of extra oomph. Can’t be easy to mobilise 400k as must wondering where the other 500k went. Especially when you join the tank corps and get the same model your dad drove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, zugzwang said: Coma Joe won't do anything cos he's a preachy weakling and a coward. Your man Trumpy, would though. 'Environmentally unsound and unprofessional.' 😆 Maybe Bush should have fired on China after they did the same thing to the EP-3 in the Heinan Incident - but then that Chinese pilot did crash into the larger plane and kill himself in the process. By your logic China should have been bombed. Then China took no military action either so maybe China are gutless and spineless cowards... your words Zug, perhaps you should try being a grown-up Edited March 16, 2023 by Staffsknot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, mynamehere said: Maybe Russia needs some USA intervention to give their mobilisation push a bit of extra oomph. Can’t be easy to mobilise 400k as must wondering where the other 500k went. Intervention? The septics haven't even asked for an apology! Edited March 16, 2023 by zugzwang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 12 hours ago, zugzwang said: Intervention? The septics haven't even asked for an apology! Again Heinan Incident China didn't get one ( it just faked the wording for the domestic audience) of a statement of sorrow that a pilot had died. So again were China gutless and were they gutless for not bombing America? You need to stop posting nonsense Zug as your credibility is sub zero as folks can always point to exactly the same for your beloved China. Grow up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 13 hours ago, zugzwang said: The UK is going to throw a fistful of I.O.U.'s at the Russkies. If they do it again we're going to surrender unconditionally. Or we could just expored advanced arms to the places being threatened... Like this - which is really why you are riled https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-approves-increased-submarine-related-exports-taiwan-risking-angering-china-2023-03-13/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 18 hours ago, Grayphil said: Nah, the pilots that did this, are probably not having the finest moment of their careers right now Wrong again. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/21745416/russia-medals-pilots-downed-us-drone/ Gloating Russia gives MEDALS to reckless fighter pilots who downed US drone as they find wreckage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, zugzwang said: Wrong again. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/21745416/russia-medals-pilots-downed-us-drone/ Gloating Russia gives MEDALS to reckless fighter pilots who downed US drone as they find wreckage China gave a medal to a pilot who died by ******ing up and crashing into a US plane causing an international incident remember Its par for the course to hide embarrassment - they were filmed being idiots and hitting the aircraft, which was probably not the intent. This is theatrical face saving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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