rollover Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Confusion of VIs said: The US says they are around 50 times the cost of a standard cruise missile. They cannot be stopped by any of the SAM systems in the Ukraine, but happily the Russian missiles are so inaccurate that, much of the time its hard to tell what they were actually aiming at. Amen to that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 58 minutes ago, Confusion of VIs said: The US says they are around 50 times the cost of a standard cruise missile. Doubt it. Kinzhal is basically an air-launched Iskander variant to give the missile more velocity and range than a ground launch, and Iskander missiles aren't terribly expensive (e.g. apparently Forbes claims $3,000,000). Zircon, maybe. That's the one which allegedly uses a scramjet instead of a rocket engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusion of VIs Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 hours ago, MarkG said: Doubt it. Kinzhal is basically an air-launched Iskander variant to give the missile more velocity and range than a ground launch, and Iskander missiles aren't terribly expensive (e.g. apparently Forbes claims $3,000,000). Zircon, maybe. That's the one which allegedly uses a scramjet instead of a rocket engine. You are right about the cost but the Kinzhal is no more a hypersonic missile than any other balistic missile. What the US (and Chinese) consider a hypersonic missile is one that can travel at hypersonic speeds, manouver to evade SAMs and still precisely hit a target. The Kinzhal cannot manouver and is only accurate to about 500m, so no use for bunker busting or other precision attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 10 hours ago, rollover said: Your trolling is losing glitter, you used to be better before ... init? Awww does the truth that Russia has lots of kit and only upgrades a fraction hurt you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Confusion of VIs said: You are right about the cost but the Kinzhal is no more a hypersonic missile than any other balistic missile. What the US (and Chinese) consider a hypersonic missile is one that can travel at hypersonic speeds, manouver to evade SAMs and still precisely hit a target. The Kinzhal cannot manouver and is only accurate to about 500m, so no use for bunker busting or other precision attacks. Kinzhal is meant to be an anti-ship missile they repurposed atm. That again tells a story. Most range claims take the aircraft range in as well due to Russian claims packaging that in too ( that's why it has such variation). That puts the aircraft in harms way and as they have limited numbers of missiles and planes that is a further limit to their use. Its just another ALCM that caught the media's attention, it will cost a lot more than Iskander as ALCMs always do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelims Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 On 13/03/2023 at 09:32, Locke said: Err...no one is digging 80 metres down to maybe exhume some bodies. Those people were in their ready made grave. Fictional bodies in a fictional grave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 hahahahahahahahaha what a pathetic cope of a thread hahahahahahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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