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2 minutes ago, Lucky Larry said:

Bill Cooper a US radio show host who warned all his listeners that a terrible terrorist attack on the US was imminent , that they would blame bin Laden and if you believed them you were an idiotĀ  7 weeks before the attacks took place was killed by Police at his homeĀ  6 weeks after 9/11. Plenty of others who questioned it have died as well such as Barry JenningsĀ 

on david cameron's orders?

try to keep up with what you've written

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4 minutes ago, sta100 said:

on david cameron's orders?

try to keep up with what you've written

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did I say it was on his orders ? , People have been killed for questioning 9/11 , Cameron has called for people to be killed for questioning 9/11 , if that is happening and our leaders are supporting it then its not a great advert for freedom of speech is it

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1 minute ago, Lucky Larry said:

did I say it was on his orders ? , People have been killed for questioning 9/11 , Cameron has called for people to be killed for questioning 9/11 , if that is happening and our leaders are supporting it then its not a great advert for freedom of speech is it

You're allowed your views Larry, as long as you don't break the law nobody is coming for you. Even if you do they may not be that bothered, and you won't be tortured. Just be glad of your blessings.

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23 minutes ago, sta100 said:

Nobody is going to put you in prison, or off you like they would in Russia.

you saidĀ  the above , you claim that Assange is irrelevant to this statement , despite being locked up by the UK for daring to tell the truth .Ā Ā 

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Just now, Lucky Larry said:

you saidĀ  the above , you claim that Assange is irrelevant to this statement , despite being locked up by the UK for daring to tell the truth .Ā Ā 

I think he did a bit more than that Larry

Watch the mr blobby video, it will cheer you up.

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Just now, sta100 said:

You're allowed your views Larry, as long as you don't break the law nobody is coming for you. Even if you do they may not be that bothered, and you won't be tortured. Just be glad of your blessings.

do you need some pics from Abu Graibh to remind you of what the British state does or what happened under internment within the UK itself .Ā 

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Just now, Lucky Larry said:

do you need some pics from Abu Graibh to remind you of what the British state does or what happened under internment within the UK itself .Ā 

Not if it's going to get you locked up no.

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It's more like sanctimoniousness ..., the sanctions are cheap energy hari-kari

German living standards plummeted after Russia invaded Ukraine

Energy price shocks had huge knock-on effect, with real wages falling further in 2022 than in any year since 1950, says report.

The energy shock caused by Russiaā€™s invasion of Ukraine has led to the biggest collapse in German living standards since the second world war and a downturn in economic output comparable to the 2008 financial crisis, a stark assessment has found.

Isabella Weber said: ā€œIn an age of conflict, climate and geopolitical crisis the rise of the AfD is a wake-up call. The collapse in living standards experienced by Germans is unprecedented since world war two. While it is true that the factors that fuelled the rise of the AfD go beyond economics, it is also impossible to ignore how this unprecedented slump in German living went hand-in-hand with the rising popularity of the far right.ā€

The economy shrank by 0.3% in the final three months of 2023 and is expected to contract again in the first quarter of 2024.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/18/german-living-standards-plummeted-after-russia-invaded-ukraine-say-economists

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5 hours ago, bumble bee said:

Do you mean something like a Color revolution to establish Western-style liberal democracy?

Or more like return to Boris Yeltsin's days?

But for all your ignorance you are just being forgiven,Ā if you are not possessing up-to-date knowledge,Ā and you haven't seen yet Putin's landslide victory in Russia's presidential vote.

No Rolly

You have a much better idea what it will look like than me being so close to the current regime. You can see the likely breakdowns and regional factions.

Although you are very closely linked to this regime you can see the way the wind is blowing even if you could not admit anything as I understand your life could be on the line.

The end result may not be what anyone in the west wants and it may end up very messy indeed and it is very unlikely we will ever see anything close to "democracy" as we perceive it in the west.

I don't think anything will be clear cut and the Russia of tomorrow could be a very wild and unlawful place, even more so than the government sponsored violence and suppression we see today.

One thing is for sure the borders and regions will change dramatically of the next decade. I will be interested to see what happens in Belgorod and Kursk regions over the coming year or two as this is where I think the Kremlin will find its main headache. There are so many questions and who is/will continue to take up this particular fight and what is their motivation.

It seems the Ukrainians have made it clear they don't want to be taken over by Russia as the special operation continues. It is uncertain if Belarus will want to be taken back into Russian control, I think the current leadership wants it but will the people allow it?

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10 hours ago, bumble bee said:

It's more like sanctimoniousness ..., the sanctions are cheap energy hari-kari

German living standards plummeted after Russia invaded Ukraine

Energy price shocks had huge knock-on effect, with real wages falling further in 2022 than in any year since 1950, says report.

The energy shock caused by Russiaā€™s invasion of Ukraine has led to the biggest collapse in German living standards since the second world war and a downturn in economic output comparable to the 2008 financial crisis, a stark assessment has found.

Isabella Weber said: ā€œIn an age of conflict, climate and geopolitical crisis the rise of the AfD is a wake-up call. The collapse in living standards experienced by Germans is unprecedented since world war two. While it is true that the factors that fuelled the rise of the AfD go beyond economics, it is also impossible to ignore how this unprecedented slump in German living went hand-in-hand with the rising popularity of the far right.ā€

The economy shrank by 0.3% in the final three months of 2023 and is expected to contract again in the first quarter of 2024.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/18/german-living-standards-plummeted-after-russia-invaded-ukraine-say-economists

How hve Russian living standards held up there chappy...

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55 minutes ago, Staffsknot said:

How hve Russian living standards held up there chappy...

Your usual an off-topic and not closely related to the conversation comment.

Why do you bother ..., and constantly making a fool of yourself?

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The UK's international reputation plummets as Britain's military aid to Ukraine is being dwarfed

Following Russia's invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 the UK became Europe's biggest backer of Ukraine, led by then Prime Minister Boris Johnson. However, two years on, Germany is donating twice as much military aid as the UK. 'UK aid allocations have plateaued at below ā‚¬5 billion since mid-2023.'

BritainĀ is being cut adrift by European allies after failing to provide enough military aid and political support to Ukraine.

Meanwhile, the shocking drop-off in UK support for Ukraine is borne out in academic analysis. 'The Nordic countries (Denmark, Finland, Sweden and Norway) and Germany are the two most important donors in terms of allocated military aid. 'They have provided a total value of ā‚¬9.12 billion (Scandinavia) and ā‚¬9.36 billion (Germany).

The UK's international reputation has plummeted since 2022. The Ukrainians are disappointed with Britain's stance at the moment. Germany has also told the UK it has to do more.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13221075/Britains-military-aid-Ukraine-dwarfed-Germany.html

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7 minutes ago, bumble bee said:

Your usual an off-topic and not closely related to the conversation comment.

Why do you bother ..., and constantly making a fool of yourself?

He had a good point tho

The Russians are to barbaric for concepts such as freedom, democracy and basically every aspect of modern life that was discovered since the enlightenmentĀ 

Keep licking the boots of your god emperor and hope he doesnā€™t send you to become a tungsten ball magnet in his latest colonial war of conquestĀ 

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12 minutes ago, yelims said:

He had a good point tho

The Russians are to barbaric for concepts such as freedom, democracy and basically every aspect of modern life that was discovered since the enlightenmentĀ 

Keep licking the boots of your god emperor and hope he doesnā€™t send you to become a tungsten ball magnet in his latest colonial war of conquestĀ 

You have strong ability not to understand the set of circumstances, have you not?

That could explain why you constantly posting balderdash without understanding context.

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Just now, bumble bee said:

You have strong ability to understand issue, have you not?

That could explain why you constantly posting balderdash without understanding context.

Oh i understand very well that the latest iteration of @rolloverĀ (you) need to keep posting scutter to earn a few roubles to keep your own ass out of trenches or falling of a balcony of your Soviet era chicken coop flatĀ 

Yes comrade we see right through your nonsenseĀ 

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2 minutes ago, yelims said:

Oh i understand very well that the latest iteration of @rolloverĀ (you) need to keep posting scutter to earn a few roubles to keep your own ass out of trenches or falling of a balcony of your Soviet era chicken coop flatĀ 

Yes comrade we see right through your nonsenseĀ 

What ...?

Your answers are regularly unbalanced, irrational and out of reality.

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6 minutes ago, bumble bee said:

What ...?

Your answers are regularly unbalanced, irrational and out of reality.

Itā€™s ok to admit that you have hard times understanding English as it is not your native language and anything outside copying and pasting from todays propaganda distribution packet trips you and your simple comrades upĀ 

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1 hour ago, bumble bee said:

Your usual an off-topic and not closely related to the conversation comment.

Why do you bother ..., and constantly making a fool of yourself?

Are you talking to yourself again?

You posted that Germany has damaged the citizens living standards by supporting Ukr but are completely against talking about the same economic consequences for someone in Russia... its very much on topic but 'off limits' for someone like you because it would reveal awkward truths

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