Former postman Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 20 hours ago, MARTINX9 said: Right wing luvvies - only if you think Corbyn is a centrist! It is the woke luvvie white middle class north and south west London elite who run it and work for it - and they don't vote Tory. Ah yes the same woke luvvies that superimposed a picture of Corbyn in front of Russian buildings on a red backround. The same woke luvvies that employed Andrew Neil, the renknowned mega-Tory. The same woke luvvies that employ Laura K who unquestioningly spread false information from 'senior Tory source' that claimed a 'Labour activist' punched a Tory staffer. The same woke luvvies who literally have a policy to present the government's position unchallenged, even if a blatant lie, in case it 'undermines trust in the government.' The BBC board is literally appointed by the government. Who have been packing it full of supporters... And you're telling me they don't vote Tory... Give me a break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryrot Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Sour Mash said: #defundtheBBC I actually got a survey from them (because of my iPlayer account) recently. You can imagine that I wasn't exactly glowing about their service. I won't be renewing my TV license when it expires in a few months. Their news is annoying, crude propaganda and their programming output is just laced through with identity politics. Unwatchable IMO. Agree. I cancelled my licence last year. No broadcast TV since. Its very unfair that one must pay the BBC if you just want to watch ITV... It hits the poorest un our society the hardest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, dryrot said: Agree. I cancelled my licence last year. No broadcast TV since. Its very unfair that one must pay the BBC if you just want to watch ITV... It hits the poorest un our society the hardest. The BBC are pushing for the lic (their a***s) fee to become a full blown tax, from optional to compulsory. They know millions aren't paying it now and millions more will stop. what a bunch of ****s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 hours ago, dryrot said: Agree. I cancelled my licence last year. No broadcast TV since. Its very unfair that one must pay the BBC if you just want to watch ITV... It hits the poorest un our society the hardest. I'm impressed with your compassion for the poorest in our society. The first time you have mentioned them in your last 6 months worth of majority Br*xit bleating posts. I take it you are then outraged by the lack of support for the victims of Grenfell, UC sanction sufferers, and foodbank users? ....or are the poorest in society only there for your political benefit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryrot Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, msi said: I'm impressed with your compassion for the poorest in our society. The first time you have mentioned them in your last 6 months worth of majority Br*xit bleating posts. I take it you are then outraged by the lack of support for the victims of Grenfell, UC sanction sufferers, and foodbank users? ....or are the poorest in society only there for your political benefit... Calm down. Sorry the Brexit vote went against the rich London Remainers, but that's democracy! "victims of Grenfell, UC sanction sufferers, and foodbank users?" Please try and stay relevant - or I suppose tjhe Students Union is closed? Grenfell victims have not been compensated? UC claimants and foodbank users are the ones hit hardest by the BBC telly tax. Edited February 15, 2021 by dryrot removed "pet" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugsbody Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, dryrot said: Calm down. Sorry the Brexit vote went against the rich London Remainers, but that's democracy! Aren't you quite rich? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Nasty Piece of work” Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 The BBC is putting out the cheapest programs possible. It is not Left or Right, but Establishment through and through. I have a friend that had a House share with BBC employees. Alan Sugar they weren’t. It all depended on who you knew. If Daddy was Establishment, you would be okay. Productivity didn’t matter, your breeding did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy2x3 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Anyone that thinks the bbc is right wing is plain and simple an idiot. A halfwit, A numpty, A buffon, A person of low awareness of the world around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Nasty Piece of work” Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 39 minutes ago, jimmy2x3 said: Anyone that thinks the bbc is right wing is plain and simple an idiot. A halfwit, A numpty, A buffon, A person of low awareness of the world around him. A similar accolade for “thinking” it is left wing - it is just awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 hours ago, dryrot said: Calm down. Sorry the Brexit vote went against the rich London Remainers, but that's democracy! "victims of Grenfell, UC sanction sufferers, and foodbank users?" Please try and stay relevant - or I suppose tjhe Students Union is closed? Grenfell victims have not been compensated? UC claimants and foodbank users are the ones hit hardest by the BBC telly tax. Democracies sibling is Accountability - but delivering the promised results of Br*xit is beyond your drivel, eh? - Hint: Look for a Big Red Bus. As for staying relevant - if you wanted to 'protect the poorest' then pay your licence fee and push BoJo for a licence fee exemption for the low income and elderly - but that doesn't fit inside your Gammon world view does it? The BBC has many many faults, but it has been a trusted source during COVID. It takes genuine criticism and tries to reform - compare and contrast the the News of the World re-badging itself to the Sun on Sunday, or the Daily Mirror Hacking payoffs, or the limp-wristed apology from Daily Mail to Harry; need I go on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, jimmy2x3 said: Anyone that thinks the bbc is right wing is plain and simple an idiot. A halfwit, A numpty, A buffon, A person of low awareness of the world around him. The BBC is establishment - I recall Labour acolytes under Kinnock complaining how 'reactionary pro Thatcher' the BBC was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryrot Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, msi said: As for staying relevant - if you wanted to 'protect the poorest' then pay your licence fee and push BoJo for a licence fee exemption for the low income and elderly - but that doesn't fit inside your Gammon world view does it? The BBC has many many faults, but it has been a trusted source during COVID. It takes genuine criticism and tries to reform - compare and contrast the the News of the World re-badging itself to the Sun on Sunday, or the Daily Mirror Hacking payoffs, or the limp-wristed apology from Daily Mail to Harry; need I go on? (Bus drivel deleted) If BoJo exempts poor/elderly does he raise taxes to fund it or cut public spending? Exempting them from the telly tax would be better - but that means a serious cut in BBC revenue - and so why not just make the BBC a subscription channel? No-one is forced to buy the press you quote on pain of criminal prosecution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, msi said: Democracies sibling is Accountability - but delivering the promised results of Br*xit is beyond your drivel, eh? - Hint: Look for a Big Red Bus. As for staying relevant - if you wanted to 'protect the poorest' then pay your licence fee and push BoJo for a licence fee exemption for the low income and elderly - but that doesn't fit inside your Gammon world view does it? The BBC has many many faults, but it has been a trusted source during COVID. It takes genuine criticism and tries to reform - compare and contrast the the News of the World re-badging itself to the Sun on Sunday, or the Daily Mirror Hacking payoffs, or the limp-wristed apology from Daily Mail to Harry; need I go on? How can poor people afford Tvs and electricity to power them? I smell a rat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Nasty Piece of work” Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 There is little choice other than pay the licence fee. I don’t trust it at all, my experience is only Boomers do, because it echoes their dimness. The BBC is happiest when talking about itself. It’s a dire “Company”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, “Nasty Piece of work” said: There is little choice other than pay the licence fee. I don’t trust it at all, my experience is only Boomers do, because it echoes their dimness. The BBC is happiest when talking about itself. It’s a dire “Company”. Can you give me 3 examples of how 'dire' it is compared to its competitors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbob Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, “Nasty Piece of work” said: There is little choice other than pay the licence fee. Yes there is. Stop paying it. I cancelled mine after Christmas, there is plenty on youtube and net flicks to keep me entertained and BBC news has been unwatchable for the past year anyway. They're not going to change if everyone keeps handing over their £159 to them every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 32 minutes ago, “Nasty Piece of work” said: There is little choice other than pay the licence fee. There are three choices: 1. Pay it and watch live TV 2. Don't Pay it and watch live TV 3. Don't Pay it and don't watch live TV There is more choice that you think. The sensible choice would be stop paying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Glenn said: Yes there is. Stop paying it. I cancelled mine after Christmas, there is plenty on youtube and net flicks to keep me entertained and BBC news has been unwatchable for the past year anyway. They're not going to change if everyone keeps handing over their £159 to them every year. Care to elaborate on how it is 'unwatchable'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, TheCountOfNowhere said: There are three choices: 1. Pay it and watch live TV 2. Don't Pay it and watch live TV 3. Don't Pay it and don't watch live TV There is more choice that you think. The sensible choice would be stop paying it. Feel free to save the money and be influenced by others with a known and biased agenda. ....and before you complain about the BiAsEd BbC - feel free to provide examples. The state of the Daily Mail Group and Fox News is well known and documented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 12 hours ago, dryrot said: No-one is forced to buy the press you quote on pain of criminal prosecution. Yawn. You don't buy the BBC - you contribute to the public service broadcaster with a separate Governance and editorial remit away from Government. The same way you don't 'buy' NHS services. The same way you don't 'buy' the services of the Military. The same way you don't 'buy' the services of Schools. Try to frame your argument using an ounce of sense rather than the standard right wing drivel. I've had an affinity to be right wing (small c conservative) - and saw intelligent, pointed arguments being replaced with mindless soundbites - I despair, I really do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Price doubt Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Are we going to have to lose the BBC before we realise what we had? It sickens me that HMG are meddling by appointment of the Director General and board, but even now the BBC is able to broadcast excellent programs which would not exist if they had to chase advertising revenue (or ratings). Is it any wonder that RT, Murdoch, China et al don’t want us to love our BBC? Of course they don’t! That’s all the more reason not to listen to their organised campaign to be rid of it. PLEASE keep paying your licence fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryrot Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, msi said: Yawn. You don't buy the BBC - you contribute to the public service broadcaster with a separate Governance and editorial remit away from Government. The same way you don't 'buy' NHS services. The same way you don't 'buy' the services of the Military. The same way you don't 'buy' the services of Schools. Try to frame your argument using an ounce of sense rather than the standard right wing drivel. I've had an affinity to be right wing (small c conservative) - and saw intelligent, pointed arguments being replaced with mindless soundbites - I despair, I really do. So "Eastenders", "Noels House Party" and "Strictly Come Dancing" are the equivalent of an NHS hospital provision? You know that taxes for the schools, military, NHS are progressive: and Income tax starts at 20% at £12kp.s. (IIRC). Earning less than 10K you dont pay for these vital services. Your fabulous BBC licence fee, however, is a flat, regressive tax on the poorest in our society. Whos the savage right-winger here then? Drivel indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Nasty Piece of work” Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, msi said: Can you give me 3 examples of how 'dire' it is compared to its competitors? Specific examples: Woman’s Hour today - an awful woman saying how awful the lock down is to HER. Weather men pretending they have personalities. Personal Finance “reporters” that clearly know nothing. All this rubbish about you the BBC - I will rejoice on their demise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 hours ago, msi said: Care to elaborate on how it is 'unwatchable'? It's only unwatchable for people who have a brain. They don't call their 7pm show piece the One brain cell Show for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Nasty Piece of work” Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 hours ago, msi said: compared to its competitors? The whole reason for it being so very bad is it is State TV, and doesn’t have competitors - if it did it wouldn’t last a year, that is why Royal Mail is so poor a Company. The Real World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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