the gardener Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 An electrical fault? Cut-off all comms and brought down the plane. That shouldn't happen surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/02/doomed-egyptair-plane-made-three-emergency-landings-24-hours-before-crash-that-killed-66-5919353/ Errrrrrrrr.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 If there is a problem with the A380 then i can understand why "terror" would be put foward as an explanation in the immediate aftermath of a crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/02/doomed-egyptair-plane-made-three-emergency-landings-24-hours-before-crash-that-killed-66-5919353/ Errrrrrrrr.... Three emergency landings. I was shocked to find out how many back to back flights it had done; but you hear so much about high aviation safety standards that you think they actually do exist. Maybe not on the rubbish airlines then. Egypt Air, top notch quality ......NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Three emergency landings. I was shocked to find out how many back to back flights it had done; but you hear so much about high aviation safety standards that you think they actually do exist. Maybe not on the rubbish airlines then. Egypt Air, top notch quality ......NOT! There's such thin margins nowadays, that every minute that a plane is not in the air, its losing money.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 There's such thin margins nowadays, that every minute that a plane is not in the air, its losing money.. That story about airline pilots living in vans in airport car parks was a huge dent in the image of faultless professionalism. If this turns out to be air plane inspectors turning a blind eye to mechanical faults then some airlines are going to be losing a lot of customers. One way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 The Health and Safety culture in Egypt is sometimes slightly lacking. I used to go to Cairo quite a bit for the gas industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 That story about airline pilots living in vans in airport car parks was a huge dent in the image of faultless professionalism. If this turns out to be air plane inspectors turning a blind eye to mechanical faults then some airlines are going to be losing a lot of customers. One way or another. IF there was any major fault with the plane, it wouldn't be allowed to fly into European airspace in the first place..There's no mention that these emergency landings were due to mechanical issues (if these three issues did actually happen)... There is a list of carriers and planes that are banned in entering our airspace... http://ec.europa.eu/transport/modes/air/safety/air-ban/doc/list_en.pdf I would suspect that EgyptAir's planes are getting regular checks at European airports... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 Ok meant to bump this thread yesterday but there was a more pressing story. A article in the FT allegedly suggests the cause of the downing may have been an explosive laptop type device. Now in recent days there has been a joint US/UK ban on laptops and tablets being taken into the cabin on flights originating from a certain list of countries. Could it be that the cause of the downing of this flight has finally been establised? (not got the FT link) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Seems rather a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Have they found this plane? The Quantas one remains a bit if a mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Alonso Quijano said: Have they found this plane? The Quantas one remains a bit if a mystery. Yes i think they have been recovering the wreckage for some time now, they may have had ample time to analyse the wreckage and work out what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Hartman Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Alonso Quijano said: Have they found this plane? The Quantas one remains a bit if a mystery. Quantas one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blobloblob Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Is it a muslim laptop ban? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 31 minutes ago, Sgt Hartman said: Quantas one? Asking about both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 hour ago, blobloblob said: Is it a muslim laptop ban? ELECTRONICS BAN What is the UK laptop flight ban, what are the new travel rules on cabin electronics and will they affect me? https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/3142972/uk-laptop-fligh-ban-travel-rules-electronics/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 The laptop ban is all about hurting the competition, nothing to do at all with security: https://www.rt.com/business/381748-us-ban-laptops-trade-war/ Quote The measure has reportedly blindsided the world’s most successful airlines, including Emirates, Etihad Airways and Qatar Airways, which have repeatedly been accused by American rivals of receiving massive subsidies from their governments. “These airlines have been quietly worried for months that President Trump was going to retaliate. This may be the retaliation,” the newspaper reports. As a result of the ban, these three airlines, along with the other carriers included in the order, are likely to lose a huge part of their business class and first class clientele, which is commonly the most profitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 23 minutes ago, The Eagle said: The laptop ban is all about hurting the competition, nothing to do at all with security: https://www.rt.com/business/381748-us-ban-laptops-trade-war/ If, as RT claims, they are 'the world's most successful airlines', why do they need subsidies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, happy_renting said: If, as RT claims, they are 'the world's most successful airlines', why do they need subsidies? Why don't you ask their American rivals who make that claim? Quote have repeatedly been accused by American rivals of receiving massive subsidies from their governments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 16 minutes ago, The Eagle said: Why don't you ask their American rivals who make that claim? It's RT who claimed in your quote that they are 'the world's most successful airlines'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, happy_renting said: It's RT who claimed in your quote that they are 'the world's most successful airlines'. And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectrumFX Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 20 minutes ago, happy_renting said: If, as RT claims, they are 'the world's most successful airlines', why do they need subsidies? I think they probably mean successful in getting subsidies It's quite an achievement just to get handed over a bunch of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Eagle said: And? And so why should I ask the Americans when it is RT (and you) making the claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, happy_renting said: And so why should I ask the Americans when it is RT (and you) making the claim? Where did I make that claim? You do understand what a quote is? I'll post the quote from RT again just for you: Quote The measure has reportedly blindsided the world’s most successful airlines, including Emirates, Etihad Airways and Qatar Airways, which have repeatedly been accused by American rivals of receiving massive subsidies from their governments. “These airlines have been quietly worried for months that President Trump was going to retaliate. This may be the retaliation,” the newspaper reports. As a result of the ban, these three airlines, along with the other carriers included in the order, are likely to lose a huge part of their business class and first class clientele, which is commonly the most profitable. https://www.rt.com/business/381748-us-ban-laptops-trade-war/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, The Eagle said: Where did I make that claim? You do understand what a quote is? OK, so you don't agree with the quote and you are simply quoting RT because it is bulls*** as usual. . Or dare you come off the fence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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