Guest UK Debt Slave Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 On current polling kippers will only have 1 MP Only if you believe the polls I don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 The "One Hundred" don't really care who in the LibLabCon is in power as they're part of the string pullers pulling the LibLabCon's strings but they put on a show to pretend that there's a choice and that "democracy" isn't rigged. Like the "independent" BoE they'll support the incumbents as that benefits them most overall. They must have been weeks/months in organising signatures at the local rotundas. Then claim that they're "Apolitical". There's 100 of them and they should place their vote (or not) like the rest of us millions. Their employees shouldn't allow themselves to be intimidated by the opinion of 100, a little more than a handful, of those running companies. Supporting the incumbents is the pragmatic business decision. If there is a new government the new incumbents will know that they can rely on the same support as their predecessors enjoyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash4781 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) There is no recovery! (Edit sustainable) Edited April 1, 2015 by Ash4781 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drained Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) .. Edited April 1, 2015 by Drained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyboy1973 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I'm genuinely surprised there aren't more business leaders openly worried about an in-out EU referendum, which is going to happen under the Tories (allegedly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Only if you believe the polls I don't http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Literary_Digest You wonder if the polls could be vulnerable to a Literary Digest moment. I can imagine currently people may be lying over their intentions who they will vote for. It appears that it will be a very tight election unless something dramatic happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canbuywontbuy Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 For purely decorative purposes, do you want your puppet leader to have blue or red strings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulfar Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) I won't vote Red Yellow or Blue. It will be UKIP, I don't trust them but I know I can't trust the rest. I am hoping for the Scottish to come to the rescue. Hopefully if a party needs the SNP we can lessen the focus of London as the center of the galaxy. If the Welsh are also needed all the better. Edited April 1, 2015 by Ulfar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) From the OP's link. The letter in full Dear Sirs, We run some of the leading businesses in the UK. We believe this Conservative-led Government has been good for business and has pursued policies which have supported investment and job creation. David Cameron and George Osborne’s flagship policy of progressively lowering Corporation Tax to 20% has been very important in showing the UK is open for business. It has been a key part of their economic plan.# The result is that Britain grew faster than any other major economy last year and businesses like ours have created over 1.85m new jobs. We believe a change in course will threaten jobs and deter investment. This would send a negative message about Britain and put the recovery at risk. A very flimsy and weak justification for their voting preference. There's little or nothing in that letter that should persuade anyone to vote for any party never mind the Conservatives. "..very important in showing the UK is open for business.." Pretty pathetic stuff as if not voting for the Conservatives would close the UK for business - it's as if they've been completely brainwashed by their very own propaganda. It's like a reference written by a best mate trying not to get on the wrong side of the mate and at the same time aware that the mate is sure to let them down. Edited April 1, 2015 by billybong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sPinwheel Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 What is thier opinion of the Greens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 From the OP's link. A very flimsy and weak justification for their voting preference. There's little or nothing in that letter that should persuade anyone to vote for any party never mind the Conservatives. "..very important in showing the UK is open for business.." Pretty pathetic stuff as if not voting for the Conservatives would close the UK for business - it's as if they've been completely brainwashed by their very own propaganda. It's like a reference written by a best mate trying not to get on the wrong side of the mate and at the same time aware that the mate is sure to let them down. With a corporate tax rate of 12.5% it's a wonder that Ireland ever had recession... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I'm genuinely surprised there aren't more business leaders openly worried about an in-out EU referendum, which is going to happen under the Tories (allegedly). They are, I guess some might like the 20% tanking in Sterling though. But actually I think they want just enough Tory support to create a Libcon coalition, the dream ticket for business and Equities with a Brexit block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) I'm genuinely surprised there aren't more business leaders openly worried about an in-out EU referendum, which is going to happen under the Tories (allegedly). There's never going to be an in-out EU referendum because the City of London and the BoE are steadfastly opposed to the idea. Coalition govt means that all pre-election promises can be reneged upon. In the unlikely event of a outright Tory majority Cameron will be replaced by Boris Johnson in a palace coup. Edited April 2, 2015 by zugzwang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 There's never going to be an in-out EU referendum because the City of London and the BoE are steadfastly opposed to the idea. Coalition govt means that all pre-election promises can be reneged upon. In the unlikely event of a outright Tory majority some other excuse will be found. TBh I think the Tories will have to run with it...spread betting suggests only about an 8% chance. Think there is a greater chance than that though....opinion polls are just not that good at capturing the Tory support you answer pollsters with your heart but you vote with your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UK Debt Slave Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 There's never going to be an in-out EU referendum because the City of London and the BoE are steadfastly opposed to the idea. Coalition govt means that all pre-election promises can be reneged upon. In the unlikely event of a outright Tory majority Cameron will be replaced by Boris Johnson in a palace coup. Correct The plan to create a federal Europe has been executed ever since the Bilderberg Group was founded in 1954. There's absolutely no way public opinion will be allowed to derail the planned superstate now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie_George Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Looks like we may get a Lib-Lab-SNP coalition, but the Conservatives could perhaps scrape together a Con-Lib-UKIP-DUP coalition. Messy either way! http://betfairpredicts.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sPinwheel Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Im confused. Im supposed to vote for the guy with which colour tie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) It's the one that "promises" the biggest brown envelope. Edited April 2, 2015 by billybong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northerner Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Im confused. Im supposed to vote for the guy with which colour tie? In Spain they want you to vote for the woman with the black tie ... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/8236030/Spanish-candidate-bares-breasts-in-election-campaign-poster.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drained Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 I don't see how the Tories can form a coalition that would take them over 326. It just doesn't add up. And a minority government wouldn't last and wouldn't be able to do anything so my money is on Labour even if they don't have the most seats, forming a coalition with the SNP and possibly PC if necessary. I thought the same .... but the bookies have Dave as favourite to be next PM. http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/prime-minister-after-general-election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyboy1973 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I'm hoping the lib dems will be wiped out - less than 20 seats sort of wiped out - which should make them (at most) the fourth largest party, if the SNP vote holds. So hopefully they won't have any say in who forms the (seemingly inevitable) coalition. I'm all for a Lab/SNP coalition myself - I'd vote SNP if they were standing in Sussex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sPinwheel Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I thought the same .... but the bookies have Dave as favourite to be next PM. http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/prime-minister-after-general-election I have £20 on Millibland being next PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Goggles Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Surely if these business chiefs (crony capitalists and hedge fund managers) are saying it'll be bad for them then clearly a Labour victory of sorts will be far more advantageous to the rest of us. 100 business chiefs: Labour threatens Britain's recovery In a letter to The Telegraph, senior executives from companies employing more than half-a-million people hail Conservative economic policies which they say show that the UK is open for business http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11507586/General-Election-2015-Labour-threatens-Britains-recovery-say-100-business-chiefs.html So 100 gazillionaires come out strongly for the party of the rentiers, eh? In other news 100 turkeys come out strongly for the abolition of Christmas. ...And finally bear poo found in the woods leads experts to propose hypothesis. Seriously though, I think this is a pretty big miscalculation by the Tories. If the rise of parties like UKIP, the SNP and Greens etc. tells you anything, then it should be that the interests of the many have now diverged enough from the interests of the few that being seen to stand for the interests of the elite is now detrimental to your electability. This is what the Tories should take from the spirit of the Thatcher era, not some desperate, half-baked right to buy zombie resurrection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyboy1973 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Seriously though, I think this is a pretty big miscalculation by the Tories. If the rise of parties like UKIP, the SNP and Greens etc. tells you anything, then it should be that the interests of the many have now diverged enough from the interests of the few that being seen to stand for the interests of the elite is now detrimental to your electability. I agree - the simple response to this "so the 0.1%, whose wealth has doubled in the past 5 years, whilst everyone else's has gone backwards, want things to carry on as they are? No sh!t!" Labour could play a blinder here, but of course they're not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Goggles Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Labour could play a blinder here, but of course they're not. They kind of have. Or have the right idea anyway. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/01/labour-offers-counterpunch-to-daily-telegraph-business-letter Its a bit difficult for them to get any papers other than the guardian to print it. Surprised the BBC haven't reported it more though. If anyone has missed playing a blinder here it's UKIP. The idea of standing up for ordinary people against a greedy and undeserving wealthy elite is no longer the preserve of the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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