tomandlu Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18159752 The news from Europe is getting worse by the day. Economic gloom across the continent and multiple crises in the currency zone. With rising unemployment and inflation there are riots in the streets with forecasts of anarchy in some parts of western Europe. And along with the simmering discontent there is a worrying rise of radical groups and populist right wing movements. In the fringes, secessionists are pushing for independence, indeed for the break up of the whole European order under which we have all lived secure and comfortable for so long. At home in Britain there are worrying signs in every town - cuts in public services have led to closures of public baths and libraries, the failure of road maintenance, breakdowns in the food supply and civic order. While political commentators and church leaders talk about a "general decline in morality" and "public apathy", the rich retreat to their mansions and country estates and hoard their cash. It all sounds eerily familiar doesn't it? But this is not Angela Merkel's eurozone - it is Roman Britannia towards the year 400, the period of the fall of the Roman Empire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Roman empire, didn't it collapse due to excess immigration and an indolent native population living on benefits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia O'Keeffe Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) Roman empire, didn't it collapse due to excess immigration and an indolent native population living on benefits? no, i think you have your history confused, the problems and fall of the Roman Empire started in America Edited May 25, 2012 by Georgia O'Keeffe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Roman empire, didn't it collapse due to excess immigration and an indolent native population living on benefits? The Emperor issued a zero-tolerance policy to combat the uprisings. But that just confused the Legions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Roman empire, didn't it collapse due to excess immigration and an indolent native population living on benefits? I Thought it was due to Romans debasing their currency too many times and distracting the populace with bread and circuses. When you can water down your currency and create money out of thin air then honest labour and toil are devalued then a sense of complacent malaise and entitlement fill society. Until the walls come tumbling down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 The news from Europe is getting worse by the day. Economic gloom across the continent and multiple crises in the currency zone.With rising unemployment and inflation there are riots in the streets with forecasts of anarchy in some parts of western Europe. And along with the simmering discontent there is a worrying rise of radical groups and populist right wing movements. In the fringes, secessionists are pushing for independence, indeed for the break up of the whole European order under which we have all lived secure and comfortable for so long. At home in Britain there are worrying signs in every town - cuts in public services have led to closures of public baths and libraries, the failure of road maintenance, breakdowns in the food supply and civic order. While political commentators and church leaders talk about a "general decline in morality" and "public apathy", the rich retreat to their mansions and country estates and hoard their cash...... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18159752 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gone baby gone Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 It does have a bit of a "last days of the Roman empire" feel to it. In a few hundred years time we might be classified as presently living through the "last days of debt based money". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail the Tripod Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 you could argue that the last part of the Roman Empire to fall anywhere was Gwynedd in the English conquest of 1282 Not the fall of Constantinople, the capitol of the Roman Empire, in 1453 then? At least lead pipes and the Mongols aren't trotted out as the cause so much these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 It does have a bit of a "last days of the Roman empire" feel to it. In a few hundred years time we might be classified as presently living through the "last days of debt based money". Nah, in a few hundred years' time they will look back and say we were living in Dar al-Harb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomandlu Posted May 25, 2012 Author Share Posted May 25, 2012 Mods, merge with http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=179019 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 no, i think you have your history confused, the problems and fall of the Roman Empire started in America That's what Gordonius Merdus would have us believe anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olebrum Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 It does have a bit of a "last days of the Roman empire" feel to it. In a few hundred years time we might be classified as presently living through the "last days of debt based money". Chatting to an 80 year old the other day, she told me that it all reminded her of the 1930s and that she was worried for her grandchildren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmarks Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Europa est praebibo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexw Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18159752 I was actually thinking this myself last night with all the similarities between the roman empire then and now for the UK. -Debased currency - Well paid or self-employed masses replaced with cheap labour (EU migrant workers vs slaves) -Tiny elite acquiring an ever larger share of the nations wealth through rewriting of the states laws in their favour -Impoverished masses fed and housed by the state and distracted with circuses (x factor vs gladiator games) -Riots as the handouts decrease Next to come would be general collapse I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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