inflating Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/8877315/Red-Arrows-pilot-dies-after-ejector-seat-accident.html What's going on with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okaycuckoo Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I wonder. Questions about the ejection of the pilot in Bournemouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inflating Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 I wonder. Questions about the ejection of the pilot in Bournemouth? yes, what I was wondering as a layperson if there are any threads to be grasped from this latest tragedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blobloblob Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 This is really sad news so soon after the last tragedy. I saw them in Truro in August and they were truly amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PricedOutNative Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 In my experience it's difficult to deploy an ejector seat, it requires some force, it's not a simple switch like on a James Bond car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I very much doubt it was an 'accident'. Very sad though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I very much doubt it was an 'accident'. Very sad though. I very much doubt it was deliberate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaspers Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I very much doubt it was an 'accident'. Very sad though. my thoughts when I heard the story. Quick google search revealed no stories of ejector seat suicide, so couldn't find a presedent. All conjecture of course, the truth will out. Seen many people however in which misplaced guilt and an undue sense of responsibility have led to suicide attempts with no prior history of mental illness. Used to love the Red Arrows as a boy. Skill, talent and bravery unmatched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AThirdWay Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 my thoughts when I heard the story. Quick google search revealed no stories of ejector seat suicide, so couldn't find a presedent. All conjecture of course, the truth will out. Seen many people however in which misplaced guilt and an undue sense of responsibility have led to suicide attempts with no prior history of mental illness. Used to love the Red Arrows as a boy. Skill, talent and bravery unmatched. The only way I can imagine you would do this would be to eject without strapping yourself in? I'm no expert, but don't these things have rocket assist now, to get you to a safe height? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaspers Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 The only way I can imagine you would do this would be to eject without strapping yourself in? I'm no expert, but don't these things have rocket assist now, to get you to a safe height? All I've seen are clips on you tube and on TV. They all seem to propell the occupants seat a fair distance vertically to give the canopy time to open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Ejection seat accidents are quite common, though they tend to kill ground crews rather than pilots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bewildered_renter Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 All I've seen are clips on you tube and on TV. They all seem to propell the occupants seat a fair distance vertically to give the canopy time to open. It's a fairly modern seat in the Hawk (Martin Baker Mk10), and they are designed to get the aircrew out safely at zero altitude and zero speed. A deliberate ejection without being strapped in might well be a viable means of committing suicide. If it went off unexpectedly though, all sorts of bad things could happen. The pilot may have been going through pre-filght checks of some kind, for instance, and wouldn't have been in the correct posture to eject without injury. On that seat, ejection is initiated by pulling on a black and yellow striped handle beteween the pilot's legs, and not something that happens due to being clumsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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