cashinmattress Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 As they say in Scotland 'nae chance'. He's a sociopathic megalomaniac. Nothing short of men in white smocks, a snipers bullet, or a general election will get him out of number 10. Like him or lump him, we will have GB running GB until June 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telometer Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Nasty to do it just before these elections. It will REALLY hit the Labour party's share of the vote, which will mean he will have to go. Ugh. Blood on carpet time. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted June 3, 2009 Author Share Posted June 3, 2009 according to SKY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Campbell Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Sky credited the story to The Guardian. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/ju...n-brown-to-quit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Rumours that theres a "round robin" going to get the 80 signatures needed to mount a leadership bid, also on Sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted June 3, 2009 Author Share Posted June 3, 2009 A group of rebel MPs have begun soliciting signatures for a round robin letter calling for Gordon Brown to step down, which they plan to hand to the prime minister after the results of the local and European elections have come in on Monday morning.The Guardian has learned there are reports that the backbenchers think they can reach 70 or 80 signatories, with some claims that the letter could be delivered to Downing Street by the end of today. Some backbenchers have seen the letter and are not signing it on account of a perception that the names already on the list are "too leftwing". No hard copy exists so far but a "tree" of backbenchers, extending throughout the reaches of the 350-strong parliamentary party, are attempting to canvass opinions to gauge the support for the prime minister. Instead of an actual letter, an email address is being handed out to which sympathetic MPs send an email that they support a single sentence statement that they would like Gordon Brown to stand down. There had been plans for the letter to go "live" at 10am on Friday morning but it now appears that those at the head of the movement are considering delaying their strike until Monday morning. The rebels are deeply irritated that news of the plot has emerged, knowing that the charge of disloyalty ahead of the elections will dissuade as many as a score of backbenchers from joining their ranks. At the beginning of the week 50 MPs were said to have agreed to sign the letter with the ambition that the number would rise to 80 before it was sent to Brown. There had been a deep fear among those who want Brown to go that the exposure of any "plot" would endanger the results of this week's elections and that Downing Street would crush the rebellion. The revelation came as Hazel Blears, the communities secretary, delivered another devastating blow to Brown's leadership by unexpectedly resigning ahead of tomorrow's polling day. Her announcement came just 24 hours after Jacqui Smith, the home secretary, quit, and amid continuing rumours about the fate of the chancellor, Alistair Darling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuya Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Email, not open letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 As they say in Scotland 'nae chance'.He's a sociopathic megalomaniac. Nothing short of men in white smocks, a snipers bullet, or a general election will get him out of number 10. Like him or lump him, we will have GB running GB until June 2010. He's delusional in his mind this will be an open letter of support. He'll have to be dragged out, hopefully by the men in white coats and committed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sillybear2 Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Email, not open letter. Yeah, emails are great, apparently half of the Parliamentary Labour Party have found a replacement for lost expenses, they've all recieved emails from extradited Nigerian generals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Storm Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 He's delusional in his mind this will be an open letter of support.He'll have to be dragged out, hopefully by the men in white coats and committed. H'ed take it as meaning that people wanted him to continue but with a reduced majority. Its the right thing to do for the hard working families of Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveAndLetBuy Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Can I be the first to call White Wednesday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sillybear2 Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Can I be the first to call White Wednesday? Because the cabinet finally blew its load? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Prudence Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 As I see it, the Labour backbencher has two choices. 1. Immediately ditch Brown, trigger election followed by certain electoral meltdown. 2. Wait another year earn another 150k plus more pension and then have election followed by certain electoral meltdown. Thats why Brown stays. Not because it is in the best interests of the country or even long term the Labour party but it is in the financial interest of about 350 backbenchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Storm Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Not because it is in the best interests of the country or even long term the Labour party but it is in the financial interest of about 350 backbenchers. Some of them might feel confident of holding their seats now, but after another year of scandal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 As I see it, the Labour backbencher has two choices. 1. Immediately ditch Brown, trigger election followed by certain electoral meltdown. 2. Wait another year earn another 150k plus more pension and then have election followed by certain electoral meltdown. Thats why Brown stays. Not because it is in the best interests of the country or even long term the Labour party but it is in the financial interest of about 350 backbenchers. Or: 3. Ditch Brown then throw their support behind their new leader, insist s/he needs the remaining year in term to show the British public how wonderful s/he is, that way it's a win/win situation - they get their remaining time/cash & will have a better chance (slim though it may be) of retaining their seats ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worzel Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Some of them might feel confident of holding their seats now, but after another year of scandal? And would think they had a chance of holding on to them with someone else at the helm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sillybear2 Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 As I see it, the Labour backbencher has two choices. 1. Immediately ditch Brown, trigger election followed by certain electoral meltdown. 2. Wait another year earn another 150k plus more pension and then have election followed by certain electoral meltdown. Thats why Brown stays. Not because it is in the best interests of the country or even long term the Labour party but it is in the financial interest of about 350 backbenchers. Spot on, the Tories fear Johnson taking over, there's a good chance he could retain some seats and avoid a total meltdown, however half the PLP are leaving anyway so their thinking is "me, myself and I, my cat, the party, the country". Socialism contains within itself the seeds of its own destruction, selfish self-interest will always destroy collectivism. Much better to allow Brown to stay and allow Labour to self-detonate in fine form, and the back benchers can fool themselves by pretending they're being "loyal" whilst actually destroying a century of work by the labour movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftiebeard Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 This is a government built on lies and deceptions; it is rotten to the core. If an election is not called after local and euro election results, the anger will reach a point when it will start to boil over. I suspect that MPs will almost certainly be victims of physical attack. If they cling on, history deserves to treat them with utter contempt; for putting their god forsaken personal interests in front of the nation's. We've arrived at national crisis time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveat Mortgagor Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Email, that originated from America. Corrected for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copydude Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 As I see it, the Labour backbencher has two choices. 1. Immediately ditch Brown, trigger election followed by certain electoral meltdown. 2. Wait another year earn another 150k plus more pension and then have election followed by certain electoral meltdown. Thats why Brown stays. Not because it is in the best interests of the country or even long term the Labour party but it is in the financial interest of about 350 backbenchers. Maybe some MPs assume that Brown can be replaced without triggering an election? I don't think that's really on, but they might. Another consideration is that Labour's recent Deputy Leadership election was a sleazefest - which is how Peter Hain fell from grace. I don't think they are capable of organising anything that isn't self-destructive. It must be too late for damage limitation. An Autumn election is more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methinkshe Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Jeff Randall on Sky. Markets don't won't like uncertainty. Foreign investors will be especially anxious. Investors need to know that rules and regs won't be torn up. Looks like even if the Labour party funk the issue, the markets could twist Gordon's arm. I reckon he won't last much longer. Best bet is an autumn election with summer recess for campaigning. Anyone know what are the odds on an autumn election? Could be worth a punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abharrisson Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Some of them might feel confident of holding their seats now, but after another year of scandal? I suppose you are right , even in these times with a party in the most serious meltdown of support I have ever seen its likely that what 150/200 labour MP's will find themselves in the happy position of being in constituencies populated by the dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashinmattress Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 (edited) Anyone know what are the odds on an autumn election? Zero percent. Labour MP's know that the hangmans noose for their career awaits at the next general election. Why give up a good thing? Especially as it is the priveledge and power which they covet. Public service? My ass. Politician are mad, megalomaniacs, and untrustworthy, but they are by no means suicidal. Edited June 3, 2009 by cashinmattress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sillybear2 Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Anyone know what are the odds on an autumn election?Could be worth a punt. There's a good chance there will be a gilt strike and an emergency budget by the autumn :- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11...iet-levels.html Remember those bull$hit projections will come to bite them soon, confidence will evaporate and trigger a bond crisis/total government meltdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6538 Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Rumours that theres a "round robin" going to get the 80 signatures needed to mount a leadership bid, also on Sky. who would want it/be stupid enough to take it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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