FrozenOut Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 When it all goes to shizen, does anyone else think the media will turn on this website rather then state the OBVIOUS reasons why House Prices Crashed? We don't get MUCH coverage to be honest, but easy pickings if things go breasts up.
the end is a bit nigher Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 probably - we have the power to change the minds of central bankers and single-websitedly pull down the establishment - a few Krusties boiled in a pot and a bit of doomsaying always helps - pity we can't do the same with the Australian cricket team
Jason Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 I can't see that happening, you can't really blame a HPC on a website can you. You might get comments along the lines of "there was a growing group of people questioning whether the housing market was a bubble..." Of course, when things do crash it may be worth pointing out all the VI's and what they said. I may email a few journalists to state the bears case (not this websites) and back it up with quotations from all the spin over the years.
the end is a bit nigher Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 Krusty's already had a go at doomsayers - i suspect a lot of the so called 'experts' will be up in arms when the armchair economists are being proved correct, which we already are with interest rates - poor old fiona wots-er-face from the Nationwide is still banging on about the 'surprise' rise in Jan - silly cah
sam Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 When it all goes to shizen, does anyone else think the media will turn on this website rather then state the OBVIOUS reasons why House Prices Crashed?We don't get MUCH coverage to be honest, but easy pickings if things go breasts up. There is many people that you can blame once we are into a property crash, the one event that allways sticks in my mind was the time that Kirsty Allsopp gave the perfomance of a lifetime and pretended to be ever so angry at HPC, it made my skin crawl. Kirsty Allsopp(and not just her) will/ should be paraded in front of the home buying public over the last 5 years and made to answer for the blatant property ramping she was part of. HPC was allways a site in my eyes WARNING people, it had the power to do nothing, how could it(how many log on here per day). I just have this image of Kirsty pointing her finger at HPC like a little brat child that she is, "It was not me sir, it was them".
the end is a bit nigher Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 There is many people that you can blame once we are into a property crash, the one event that allways sticks in my mind was the time that Kirsty Allsopp gave the perfomance of a lifetime and pretended to be ever so angry at HPC, it made my skin crawl. That's the one I was thinking of! If only someone had had a wet kipper to hand.......
It is different this time Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 why do you think I've just joined up HPC as I didn't wanna miss the party well for the blame part I would be happy to take my part being a now member if stupid lenders/borrowers/property porn tv shows/EA/VI and all those saying *It is different this time" own up their blame and stupidity for, probably, the mother of all crashes coming to town near you. when a nation's debt increase £1m every 4 minutes surely someone will have to take the blame but I am sure HPC website will be the last for this mess.
Fancypants Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 they'll be looking for scapegoats, for sure. But the only ones who will seek to blame it on this site will be the same ones who are on here feverishly trolling and denying that we have any influence at all. (the truth of course is that our influence is minimal. However, if a few FTBs can be saved by coming here and seeing reason, then it is for their own - and the greater - good)
Charlie Don't Surf Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 I'd like to see certain parts of this website imortalised in stone so that all the eejits who said it won't happen can look here and see that some of us warned them and told them exactly why.
Its time to buy Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) I would like all my posts to be deleted, and all traces of my existance on this site removed BEFORE THAT HAPPENS I am not having a riot outsite my ex-respossessed property by MR angry bankcrupt amateur property investor, who blame the website for their downfall Edited January 31, 2007 by notanewmember
Levy process Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 When it all goes to shizen.... That's right, just keep repeating it often enough and what looks like a small possibility will magically transform into a certainty. I'll let you get back to daydreaming.
HOwner Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 People on this site have been calling the crash for YEARS. If and when the crash happens, I don't think people are going to suddenly forget that, it will be more of a case of "well, if you keep calling it everyday, you are going to be right eventually".
Levy process Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 People on this site have been calling the crash for YEARS. If and when the crash happens, I don't think people are going to suddenly forget that, it will be more of a case of "well, if you keep calling it everyday, you are going to be right eventually". Egg-zagtly. I've lost most of the interest I had in this site recently. The quality of debate has dropped somewhat, a lot of the bears have become ludicrously over protective and clamour and yell if anyone dares to challenge the orthodox view, and the few interesting level headed bears are just drowned out by the chanting. Ever since the recent rate rise, the place has just become a surrealist party, existing in its own space, detached from reality in my opinion. No doubt some bright spark is about to respond to this with "well if you don't like it why do you bother posting". Ugh. Well, the answer is, I used to find the place interesting. Now it is just a becoming a repository for fantasies about the mythical "after the crash" world that bears seem to long for.
tahoma Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 I've lost most of the interest I had in this site recently. Mate, no one cares.
steve99 Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 The vast majority of people live within a 'Blame culture' so long as there is someone to blame then thats ok, most people have been fooled over the last few years by the VI's , banks, TV pundits, Real estate pundits in every paper etc etc, when it starts to fall appart, these VI;s will start pointing fingers and totaly forget the part they played in the HPI hype. This site will of course will be pointed out by some as a trigger, all this negative talk, who do we think we are spoiling their HPI and MEW party, but who cares what they think?, like I care what sheep think.
Levy process Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 Mate, no one cares. Mate, if you look at my post, you'll see I anticipated your numb skull response. You just carry on preaching to the converted. I couldn't give a ****.
HOwner Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) Egg-zagtly.I've lost most of the interest I had in this site recently. The quality of debate has dropped somewhat, a lot of the bears have become ludicrously over protective and clamour and yell if anyone dares to challenge the orthodox view, and the few interesting level headed bears are just drowned out by the chanting. Ever since the recent rate rise, the place has just become a surrealist party, existing in its own space, detached from reality in my opinion. Don't forget the "Professor Miles" love fest. Since he perdicted it again a few months ago, he suddenly became the messiah, regardless of the fact that he was wrong when he predicted the crash last time.. Some would call it negativity, others would call it being realistic, but we have heard it all before, and there still is no magic trigger that is going to cause a crash right now despite what the foaming at the mouth crowd seem to think. Just like the inevitable demise of the UK economy. People have been saying that since the 60's, and yet we are better off now than we were then... Edited January 31, 2007 by HOwner
tahoma Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 Mate, if you look at my post, you'll see I anticipated your numb skull response. You just carry on preaching to the converted. I couldn't give a ****. You anticipated people saying 'why post here lalala'. I don't care if or what you post here.
Levy process Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 You anticipated people saying 'why post here lalala'. I don't care if or what you post here. Yea, you're right. Your response was just one of "We dont' care" and "Anyway, why are you still posting here if you've lost interest". Usually the two go hand in hand. Congratulations on having an original response, even if it was merely to decouple one of the two stock standard answers.
tahoma Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) Still here? You seem emotional, 'off games' week? Hey, these smileys are great! Edited January 31, 2007 by tahoma
Pluto Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) My prediction is that Kirsty Allsop and Phil Spencer will have to leave the UK and set up residence somewhere else. The backlash against them will be so severe and brutal they will no other choice. The UK public and media have a way of demanding blood. Look at what is happening to Goody from big brother. Edited January 31, 2007 by Pluto
LargelyIgnorant Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 People have been saying that since the 60's, and yet we are better off now than we were then... How are we better off now than people were in the 60s? Thought back then a single working parent on an average income could afford a family house. What is a better quality of life indicator than that?
Charlie Don't Surf Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 The "you've been calling it for years and it hasn't happened" argument Almost as near sighted as the "because it hasn't happened yet it won't argument" Lots of people, including myself have been predicting a crash for about 2 years. The fact it hasn't happened yet makes me no less certain it will. The other point is a lot of people haven't been giving dates of when a crash will happen. However, I'm going to stick my neck out and say I reckon HPI (UK average and London aside) is dead now. Just out of interest do you (Levy Process and Howner) actually think there is nothing to fear in the explosion of debt, credit, HPI and RPI?
tahoma Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) I can already see the 'happy now!!?!?!?!?!?' posts from various contributors to this site. Edited January 31, 2007 by tahoma
Pluto Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 How are we better off now than people were in the 60s? Thought back then a single working parent on an average income could afford a family house. What is a better quality of life indicator than that? That is why the UK is dropping fast on the quality of life index published by the Economist every year. The UK citizen is being slaved to debt as like no time in recent history.
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