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1 hour ago, anonguest said:

You did. And I counter argued them.

 

I haven't ignored any evidence. I have merely disagreed with your juvenile and naive interpretation of events.

There's also nothing 'whataboutery' regarding Hamas. These are the same pro-Palestine crowds being talked about.

In one case a man tries to show their vile nature purely by virtue of his religion and another person demonsrates where their vile Hamas allegiances lie by criticising Hamas.

Both of these men according to you, and others here, are simply seeking to provoke trouble. But in reality they are simply opening people's eyes to who the people in these crowds are.

 

Again, more defamatory language. He couldn't find anyone to 'fight with' because he wasn't allowed near the crowd.

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Good point - there does appear to be a group of disparate posters who have grasped the known facts without much difficulty.

Why then do you are you struggling with this ?

There are fascinating and complex  conclusions that can be drawn from this but you seem to be struggling with the basics. Very odd.

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1 hour ago, pig said:

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The counter-protestor couldn't find anybody to fight with either: I guess all you need is a police officer to stitch up ? :)

1 hour ago, anonguest said:

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Again, more defamatory language. He couldn't find anyone to 'fight with' because he wasn't allowed near the crowd.

(My bold) 

He was allowed into the crowd. On several occasions.

But nobody attacked him.

2 hours ago, anonguest said:

You mean people never leave church services/sermons early?

Sh*t for brains!

I have literally never seen a single person leave a service early.

Apart from kids leaving to go to Sunday school.

2 hours ago, anonguest said:

It takes one to know one!

It takes a troll to know a troll?

Is this an admission?

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1 hour ago, Timm said:

(My bold) 

He was allowed into the crowd. On several occasions.

But nobody attacked him.

I have literally never seen a single person leave a service early.

Apart from kids leaving to go to Sunday school.

It takes a troll to know a troll?

Is this an admission?

The actual interest in this story is something that kids should be taught in schools:  about media cycles, media storms, how the framing of stories can create radically different understandings, IRL trolling,   the general difficulties of understanding 'what is really going on' , and so on.

That said, I also like this story because it has relatively simple, easily accessible information that can therefore easily expose weird posting...

To be fair I don't think he was 'allowed' into the crowd. As has been frequently reported there are all sorts present, so there would have been no reason to do any 'allowing'. 

Rather it sounds like he was spotted  trying to be a nuisance, so then presumably the police decided to pull him out and/or not let him back in. One officer did slip up under pressure, but in the general context of them generally being patient, professional and clear I think that can be forgiven. I don't say that often lol!

 

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On 4/24/2024 at 12:29 PM, anonguest said:

No. I have NEVER EVER said that.

Please show otherwise.

 

I have not said that either. I have said it is a religious issue. Time and again!

BUT you clearly suffer from a bizarre condition wherein you read something but hear something completely different.

 

Yeah. They're called Israelis!

 

You seem confused with your own posts.

It's either "hamas sympathisers who want to kill every Jew for religious reasons" or "Jews are safe on the marches because they agree politically (not in religious terms) with Hamas".

It's one or the other - can't be both.

Yet you are saying both.

For this reason, I conclude that you are a bit dim.

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On 4/24/2024 at 12:36 PM, yelims said:

Decrease it as it puts Russians and their equipment into the mud far far away

Now these Nazi ******s of course can just stop their colonial war and stop threatening everyone, but neh that’s too difficult a concept for em 

Just last week a strategic plane was shot down, that’s one less delivery platform, in last few months they lost most of their fleet to a country without a navy, once again less delivery platforms, and finally their AA is being hunted down, which would be useful if ever need to send these Russian nazi ******s back to the Stone Age where they belong 

No.

To spell it out for you, attacking Russia with crappy UK tanks and missiles isn't going to do anything to defeat Russia.

Napoleon didnt defeat Russia. The Wehrmacht didn't defeat Russia (then the major part of the Soviet Union) with their entire armed forces. 30 Challenger tanks and a hundred Storm Shadow missiles isn't going to defeat Russia.

What it does mean is that Russia are more likely to retaliate. And they have the largest nuclear arsenal in the world and delivery systems that cannot be stopped.

And if they chose to retaliate there would literally be no place for you to hide. So pray they dont.

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On 4/24/2024 at 12:44 PM, anonguest said:

I never said there were thousands of Jews on these marches. I doubt you'll find any bona fide Jews on them, i.e. Jews who actually practice their faith. To this day the 19th century prime minister still gets occasionally referred to as having been Jewish, when the reality is that he was merely born into a Jewish family got baptised, got brought up as a Christian, etc.  

Some people might call me CofE protestant. The reality is I have only once ever been inside a church for a religious ceremony in my entire life - and that was for someone else's wedding! So my presence there was for 'them' and not for me.

You really are a waste of time.

Jews who actually practice their faith aren't Zionists.

Herzl, the father of Zionism, was an atheist. As was David Ben Gurion.

Actual bona fide religious people don't practice the genocide of children.

Zionist just hide behind the religion or their crimes and to excuse their evil.

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7 minutes ago, Vlad Made You Sad said:

No.

To spell it out for you, attacking Russia with crappy UK tanks and missiles isn't going to do anything to defeat Russia.

Napoleon didnt defeat Russia. The Wehrmacht didn't defeat Russia (then the major part of the Soviet Union) with their entire armed forces. 30 Challenger tanks and a hundred Storm Shadow missiles isn't going to defeat Russia.

What it does mean is that Russia are more likely to retaliate. And they have the largest nuclear arsenal in the world and delivery systems that cannot be stopped.

And if they chose to retaliate there would literally be no place for you to hide. So pray they dont.

Napoleon and the Wehrmacht invaded Russia. Russia is invading Ukraine. It also invaded Afghanistan...

If anything Russia is the equivalent of Napoleon here...

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1 minute ago, pig said:

Napoleon and the Wehrmacht invaded Russia. Russia is invading Ukraine. It also invaded Afghanistan...

If anything Russia is the equivalent of Napoleon here...

The Russians (Soviets) were invited into Afghanistan by their socialist government.

Whether or not they are "invading" Ukraine (Russia are arguing otherwise) the point of my post is that the UK has zero chance of conquering Russia. Zero. And that's if the ENTIRE country went on a war footing.

Russia could wipe out the UK military using its conventional forces. There are literally no defences against Russia's hypersonic missiles.

If it wished, it could turn the entirety of the UK into a car park using its nuclear forces.

So the sensible thing would be to avoid provoking a fight with Russia as we are currently doing, targeting its infrastructure and bombing its nuclear bases.

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18 minutes ago, Vlad Made You Sad said:

The Russians (Soviets) were invited into Afghanistan by their socialist government.

Whether or not they are "invading" Ukraine (Russia are arguing otherwise) the point of my post is that the UK has zero chance of conquering Russia. Zero. And that's if the ENTIRE country went on a war footing.

Russia could wipe out the UK military using its conventional forces. There are literally no defences against Russia's hypersonic missiles.

If it wished, it could turn the entirety of the UK into a car park using its nuclear forces.

So the sensible thing would be to avoid provoking a fight with Russia as we are currently doing, targeting its infrastructure and bombing its nuclear bases.

Ah I see what you did there. To repeat:

RUSSIA.

IS

INVADING

UKRAINE

Therefore it is NOT like Germany invading Russia or Napoleon invading Russia.

Russia is the Nazi Napoleon in this story.

Geddit ?

It has totally fecked up its invasion of Ukraine and has attracted attention to its meddling in other east European countries.

It is kind of trying not to provoke the entirety of Europe and the US into the war, and influence campaigns are trying to stall decision making to help Ukraine.

Best of luck to you if it fails. Its not looking good though as talk is escalating Into  "pre-war" period.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, pig said:

Ah I see what you did there: To repeat:

RUSSIA.

IS

INVADING

UKRAINE

Therefore it is NOT like Germany invading Russia or Napoleon invading Russia.

Russia is the Nazi Napoleon in this story.

Geddit ?

It has totally fecked up its invasion of Ukraine and has attracted attention to its meddling in other east European countries.

It is kind of trying not to provoke the entirety of Europe and the US into the war, and influence campaigns are trying to stall decision making to help Ukraine.

Best of luck to you if it fails. Its not looking good though as talk is escalating Into  "pre-war" period.

 

 

You're talking about a different point to the one I was making.

Whether Russia is INVADING UKRAINE, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Timbuktu or anywhere else, the UK has zero chance of defeating it. Russia is aiming for a standing force of 1.3 million men. It has the unstoppable missiles and the worlds largest nuclear arsenal.

My point is you are relying on Putin's mercy and restraint to prevent the UK being wiped out.

So we should perhaps stop attacking Russia before their patience runs out.

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1 minute ago, Vlad Made You Sad said:

You're talking about a different point to the one I was making.

Whether Russia is INVADING UKRAINE, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Timbuktu or anywhere else, the UK has zero chance of defeating it. Russia is aiming for a standing force of 1.3 million men. It has the unstoppable missiles and the worlds largest nuclear arsenal.

My point is you are relying on Putin's mercy and restraint to prevent the UK being wiped out.

So we should perhaps stop attacking Russia before their patience runs out.

No.

I responded directly to the point you made.

Then you switched to threatening the UK - that kind of makes sense as I live in the UK.

So I pointed out it will do Russia no good to obsess over the UK if the bombs are flying in from across NATO. I'm flattered you're THAT worked up about little old me though.

 

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4 hours ago, donadoni said:

 

For a professor she's clearly not very intelligent.

If a guy with a gun, built like a brick shithouse, says/indicates that you are being arrested then the last thing you should do is resist - unless you like pain.

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37 minutes ago, anonguest said:

For a professor she's clearly not very intelligent.

If a guy with a gun, built like a brick shithouse, says/indicates that you are being arrested then the last thing you should do is resist - unless you like pain.

Jeez you're stupid. Unbelievably stupid.

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