Frank Hovis Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Because the working class don't agree with their view that we owe the world a living and a free council house soon as you step foot in the country. I'm self employed, don't earn a great deal most years, pay eye gorging market rents for a shitty little studio flat yet see people from all over the world step foot in this country with child and get instantly given something I'll probably never have, a decent house. I instead get to piss most my money away on rent, council tax and ironically income tax so someone from half the world away gets housing benefit to live in London, the most expensive city in the world. This makes me a swivel eyed racist to the metropolitan left wing champagne socialists. That in its various forms has been the response of the actual working class, rather than the "my grandad was a miner" claimed working class "roots", to all the phone ins I have heard about Brexit. People in comfortable middle class existences seeking to be Nick Clegg type "nice" have for decades been steadily runing the lives of the British working classes. Yes immigration out-competing them for low wage jobs and public services but also high housing costs taking what money they do earn, zero hours contracts, and benefit traps. My grandparents' generation on one side were all respectable working class. Manual workers who owned their own homes in nice neighbourhoods and had cars, some even had caravans, and a very decent standard of living. Now it has all gone wrong, and so much of this decline presided over by their supposed champions of the Labour party. It will take years of change to get the living standards of manual workers back to where they were in the 50s and 60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 That in its various forms has been the response of the actual working class, rather than the "my grandad was a miner" claimed working class "roots", to all the phone ins I have heard about Brexit. People in comfortable middle class existences seeking to be Nick Clegg type "nice" have for decades been steadily runing the lives of the British working classes. Yes immigration out-competing them for low wage jobs and public services but also high housing costs taking what money they do earn, zero hours contracts, and benefit traps. My grandparents' generation on one side were all respectable working class. Manual workers who owned their own homes in nice neighbourhoods and had cars, some even had caravans, and a very decent standard of living. Now it has all gone wrong, and so much of this decline presided over by their supposed champions of the Labour party. It will take years of change to get the living standards of manual workers back to where they were in the 50s and 60s. Much of the available public sector purse went to eductaion and universities as opposed to industry and apprenticeships. So we subsidised ourselves to have rites of passages in places like Leeds, Exeter and Cambridge whose economies boomed and left the former Labour areas like Bolton, Mansfield and Blackpool bombed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Much of the available public sector purse went to eductaion and universities as opposed to industry and apprenticeships. So we subsidised ourselves to have rites of passages in places like Leeds, Exeter and Cambridge whose economies boomed and left the former Labour areas like Bolton, Mansfield and Blackpool bombed out. That's tangential at best. Yes a university education was subidised but only small numbers went up until the 90s. It is that wages have fallen & job security is minimal (both because of increased competition driving down the value of labour), whilst housing costs have rocketed. It is housing that is key to much of people's quality of life and security and why this site is so successful. I have lived in shared houses and small flats but it never bothered me in the slightest because I knew that it was temporary. If that is all you are ever going to have then you have good reason to be narked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Tunisian massacre anniversary. The only undercooked mourning in recent years imo. Compare that to the Jo Cox murder. Guess there were political reasons in both cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 That's tangential at best. Yes a university education was subidised but only small numbers went up until the 90s. It is that wages have fallen & job security is minimal (both because of increased competition driving down the value of labour), whilst housing costs have rocketed. It is housing that is key to much of people's quality of life and security and why this site is so successful. I have lived in shared houses and small flats but it never bothered me in the slightest because I knew that it was temporary. If that is all you are ever going to have then you have good reason to be narked. Tbh i think where public monies are spent geographically and on what make a big difference to living standards. Transport, education, health facilities often targetted in favoured areas leaving certain rural areas and northern cities that are not favoured lagging behind. Meanwhile the elite in the favoured areas congratulate themselves on their subsidised success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie_George Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 Tunisian massacre anniversary. The only undercooked mourning in recent years imo. Compare that to the Jo Cox murder. Guess there were political reasons in both cases. Yes, I noticed this at the time. Very strange. 30 British dead, yet reporting very low key (in comparison to other events). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectrumFX Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 May as well post this here... Any guesses why this safety poster has been removed from American Swimming Pools and the American Red Cross Website? P Was it not cool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectrumFX Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 It's not cool calling people not cool. Not certain types of people at least. Not being able to see what the problem is is very not cool. You are the problem. P Does that mean I'm not cool Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 The left seem to hate everything including quite often themselves. 'every kumrad is a bit of quite unmitigated hate' - e.e. cummings That poem is probably the best analysis of the left-wing mindset ever written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainlessSteelCat Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Yes, I noticed this at the time. Very strange. 30 British dead, yet reporting very low key (in comparison to other events). The media not willing to travel there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbonic Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 The media not willing to travel there. Most of the London media will be shuddering at the idea of travelling to West Yorks for the Jo Cox funeral. Especially now the referendum's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Here's a conundrum. I guarantee there is a massive intersect between the folks protesting Brexit/racism and the folks protesting against capitalism/globalisation Put a brick through the window of Starbucks...because fvck them. But all hail the benign EU, champion of our domestic worker rights. Square that circle if you can P The EU are great because Foreigner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 The EU are great because Foreigner. And Starbucks is inherently evil because it is American. Simple for the SJW mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knock out johnny Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 All we need is an influx of global syria-based brands and we're good to go. P Will this do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Will this do? Muhammad in a can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I am finding it all confusing now. The BREXIT, the leaderhip campaigns for both parties and England losing to Iceland now seems to be blurring all into one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migrant Mother Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Germany has just invaded Poland!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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