CunningPlan Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Problem is that if you behave like a petulant spoiled child you will get treated like one. I think if Scotland stopped all the independence guff then perhaps everyone could now work together for the good of the whole UK, not just their own self interest. Either P*ss or get off the pot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloomMonger Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 The EU will make sure we qualify. Senior members of the German government are already making such noises. A bit like Greece then. Turned out well for them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Problem is that if you behave like a petulant spoiled child you will get treated like one. I think if Scotland stopped all the independence guff then perhaps everyone could now work together for the good of the whole UK, not just their own self interest. Either P*ss or get off the pot. If the EU had behaved rather better we'd never have got into this situation in the first place and we could concentrate on the good of the whole of Europe. It's too much to expect out of anyone unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloomMonger Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I really don't understand this desire to be ruled by the EU. At least the Scots have influence in the UK parliament, we've even had a few Scottish PMs. What sort of influence do you think you will have it the EU? ******ing delusional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exmond Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 I think if Scotland stopped all the independence guff then perhaps everyone could now work together for the good of the whole UK, not just their own self interest. I think if England and Wales stopped all this EU independence guff then perhaps everyone could work together for the good of the whole UK, not just their own self interest. News flash. There is now no such thing as the UK. A bit like Greece then. Turned out well for them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exmond Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 I really don't understand this desire to be ruled by the EU. At least the Scots have influence in the UK parliament, we've even had a few Scottish PMs. What sort of influence do you think you will have it the EU? ******ing delusional. I think this post from reddit has the ring of truth about it: The English just don't give a rat's ass about anyone else in the UK because of some seriously misguided superiority complex. The EU ignores all its citizens equally and hands out some money at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloomMonger Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I think this post from reddit has the ring of truth about it: The English just don't give a rat's ass about anyone else in the UK because of some seriously misguided superiority complex. The EU ignores all its citizens equally and hands out some money at the same time. You must be such a proud Scotsman with an atitude like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exmond Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Good going England and Wales. Edited June 24, 2016 by Exmond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exmond Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 As much as I dislike Jakey Rowling, if YES can get her onside that would be a big win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isambard Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 BBC reporting Morgan Stanley are looking to move 2000 jobs out of London to either Dublin or Frankfurt. It has already started. Reports that Morgan Stanley will relocate 2,000 UK staff to Dublin or Frankfurt are "utterly false", a source close to the bank has told The Telegraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I think this post from reddit has the ring of truth about it: The English just don't give a rat's ass about anyone else in the UK because of some seriously misguided superiority complex. The EU ignores all its citizens equally and hands out some money at the same time. I don't think that has much truth in it at all, but it suits the chip on the shoulders of some. Westminster doesn't give a rat's **** about Scotland, but it doesn't give one about anywhere outside the M25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Scotland doesn't have its own currency. And the Euro is dead in the water long term. End of story. Edited June 24, 2016 by Pole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exmond Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 Scotland doesn't have its own currency. And the Euro is dead in the water long term. End of story. Ah well, Mr Pole has spoken and he's says no. Pack up your bags boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CunningPlan Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Good going England and Wales. So on other words establishment giving a right kicking. Works for me. Sometimes when playing scrabble just swapping a tile is not enough. If your hand is that bad swapping the whole rack is the only option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 How are Labour and the Tory's going to sell remaining in the UK now? #ProjectSporren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exmond Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Another thing to consider is that once Scotland becomes independent a land border will need to be built between Scotland and England. Can't blame the Scots for that one! Who will pay for and police it? Or will it be like Ireland and Northern Ireland? But if it is like that then there will be free movement over the border. Oh noes, a route for those pesky immigrants into England! Edited June 24, 2016 by Exmond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CunningPlan Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Another thing to consider is that once Scotland becomes independent a land border will need to be built between Scotland and England. Can't blame the Scots for that one! Who will pay for and police it? Why can't I blame the Scots? The English won't have voted for the separation. Not that I think a land border of the form you envisage would be required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Another thing to consider is that once Scotland becomes independent a land border will need to be built between Scotland and England. Can't blame the Scots for that one! Who will pay for and police it? Or will it be like Ireland and Northern Ireland? But if it is like that then there will be free movement over the border. Oh noes, a route for those pesky immigrants into England! What route? Going via Scotland would hardly be practical for illegal immigrants, and legal ones won't be trying to sneak in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Ah well, Mr Pole has spoken and he's says no. Pack up your bags boys. Thanks for addressing my argument. It was nice talking to you. ta-ta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exmond Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) What route? Going via Scotland would hardly be practical for illegal immigrants, and legal ones won't be trying to sneak in. Refugees come to Germany. Get issued an EU passport. Get on a plane or boat to Scotland. Get on a bus to London. Never leave. Edited June 24, 2016 by Exmond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloomMonger Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Good going England and Wales. You win some you lose some, that's democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CunningPlan Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Refugees come to Germany. Get issued an EU passport. Get on a plane or boat to Scotland. Get on a bus to London. Gets to London. No National Insurance Number so can't work, claim benefits, use the NHS, rent a property. Goes back to Scotland where they can claim all the benefits thanks to their EU passport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Refugees come to Germany. Get issued an EU passport. Get on a plane or boat to Scotland. Get on a bus to London. Might as well just sneak across the Channel as they currently try to. Via Scotland is not a practical route into England for significant numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AThirdWay Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 You need to learn to read... In January 2013 The promise of a referendum was there, whether the Conservatives were able to deliver it rested in 2015, but you can't say that it was not on the table. Cameron wasn't PM at that time, he couldn't deliver any referendum. You need to learn about politics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choochoo Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I voted yes for Independence despite all the threats from the EU. Now they're suddenly our friends? Load of wamkwrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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