Victims Of Islamic Intolerance, Or, Contrarily, Insensitive Bigots Themselves

[Executive Sadman]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2385392/Brothers-law-wearing-mankinis-charity-walk-abused-Ramandan.html

Two brothers in law who went on a sponsored walk wearing comedy mankinis had to be picked up by police - after they were pelted with stones and eggs by residents who told them 'this is a Muslim area' and demanded they leave...they ended up being escorted by officers after they were attacked as they passed through the Sparkbrook area of the city, claiming police said they had offended local Muslims during Ramadan.

They were driven through the area as locals hurled abuse at them - calling them paedophiles. Mr Ellis’s wife Victoria, 36, had followed the pair's journey in a car, with the couple's five young children.

She said: ‘We were basically run out of the area. We had stopped at a supermarket car park to give the dogs a drink as it was a hot day, and we were suddenly surrounded.

‘The men were taking off their jackets and threatening to fight Jason. I have seen nothing like it in my life before. The children were terrified as within minutes a crowd of 30 or 40 men assembled.

‘They began throwing stones and eggs at us. They were shouting at Jason saying that he was a pervert and a paedophile, and one of them called me a dirty white s***.

‘They told us that they hated dogs and told us to get out of the car park. The children were petrified and asked why these people were calling me a s***.

‘One egg narrowly missed hitting my 12-year-old son, Jason, leaving him petrified and even passing cars ended up being hit by the eggs and stones. The abuse was appalling.

‘We called the police and they came straight away. I asked the police what they were going to do to help us but they just said it was because of sensitivities over an EDL (English Defence League) march and Ramadan.

‘We didn't even know there was an EDL march planned for that day - we had nothing to do with it. Our family just love dogs, we've homed a rescue dog and we wanted to raise money to help the charity.’

But local butcher Irshad Armani, 22, said: 'It was disrespectful for the men to come here half-

Obviously the daily mails line is clear, but... i was wondering what the BBC/Guardians line would be. Obviously they have no article on it, because, of course, this stuff doesnt happen in Guardianista land, where tractor production is always up...but its interesting to speculate how they would cover it.

Im guessing along the lines of "two heavily tatooed white males, thus probably National Front members, use front of charity to invade Islamic area, choosing specifically the time of ramadan to cause fear, offense and panic among the locals. Keith Vaz demands immediate ban on Mankini's which are clearly now used as 'hate weapons' against muslims"

Still, i guess this lot are only a minority...we hope.

[okaycuckoo]

Orange Order marchers are offering in-season package tours to the exotic mainland?

[SpectrumFX]

In a way it's both.

The main issue is that you've got two sets of people interacting with incompatible world views.

[Goat]

In a way it's both.

The main issue is that you've got two sets of people interacting with incompatible world views.

The problem is that only one set are obeying the laws of the land, not that plod dare enforce them against the other set.

Imagine if the roles were reversed and a group of bearded/veiled muslims were chased out of a white area. It'd be lead story on the BBC, every police officer within 100 miles would be on hand to ensure their right to walk through that area and a team of 50 would be "leaving no stone unturned" in a search for the original group of criminals.

[Rave]

I rolled up to Whitstable on Saturday wearing nothing but some cycling shoes and a pair of skintight lycra cycling shorts. I'd ditched my jersey 30 miles previously as it was a hot day and I was already suffering a touch of heatstroke...I was on a charity ride obviously.

Not a word was said, despite my getup being barely more 'decent' than a mankini. I went for a (pretty disappointing) dip in the sea, ate a delicious portion of fish 'n chips, put my shirt on and caught the train home.

It is the Mail I suppose, and you can't trust them, but it doesn't look good. When those stories about muslim vigilante groups patrolling Tower Hamlets harassing people who looked 'gay' and/or carrying booze came out about a year ago I must say I was very tempted to roll up there one night wearing one of my wife's tops and her eyeliner, and carrying a can of white lightning...oh and a Mini Maglite . Probably a good thing I didn't though, as I daresay I'm not as hard as I think I am .

[Darkman]

I'm beginning to read these stories with a weary resignation.

As outraged as we may be that age old customs and laws are being rejected or challenged, there comes a time when you must admit things are changing. Demographically Britain is transforming and there's not a damn thing that can stop it now. Muslims are the foremost example of a cultural/religious group growing in numbers, and gradually the belief and cultural differences become very apparent. Plus voluntary segregation hasn't helped matters at all.

The "native population" of Britain will have to adapt to these newcomers, especially in the areas they populate. Whether the newcomers have adapted to the West themselves is debatable. Most probably have, but a minority resist. There's a limit to what the police can do, and they'll most likely chastise people who run into trouble in these areas for not being more "culturally sensitive to their surroundings".

Some areas must be majority Muslim by now, and they will protect their "turf" just like anyone else. Britain is actually beginning to look more like America now, with segregated no go areas. It's nowhere as bad yet, but it's moving in that direction. You won't hear this reported on the BBC of course.

Best advice to the British? Get used to it.

[Kurt Barlow]

The problem is that only one set are obeying the laws of the land, not that plod dare enforce them against the other set.

Imagine if the roles were reversed and a group of bearded/veiled muslims were chased out of a white area. It'd be lead story on the BBC, every police officer within 100 miles would be on hand to ensure their right to walk through that area and a team of 50 would be "leaving no stone unturned" in a search for the original group of criminals.

+1

An interesting scenario would be a Gay Pride March through the same area during Ramadan.

[WageWar]

The Huffington Post is doing it's own bit to intentionally stir shit into UK community cohesion. Check out the wording of the URL.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/08/06/mankini-charity-walk-police-escort-paedophiles_n_3713613.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

[Executive Sadman]

The Huffington Post is doing it's own bit to intentionally stir shit into UK community cohesion. Check out the wording of the URL.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/08/06/mankini-charity-walk-police-escort-paedophiles_n_3713613.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

The HP is just a mirror site of the DM i think. Still no BBC and guardian article, although the sun and mirror have covered it now.

[Frank Hovis]

The problem is that only one set are obeying the laws of the land, not that plod dare enforce them against the other set.

Imagine if the roles were reversed and a group of bearded/veiled muslims were chased out of a white area. It'd be lead story on the BBC, every police officer within 100 miles would be on hand to ensure their right to walk through that area and a team of 50 would be "leaving no stone unturned" in a search for the original group of criminals.

Yes, I may not want to see somebody in a mankini but if I threw stones at them I should be arrested.

[WageWar]

The HP is just a mirror site of the DM i think. Still no BBC and guardian article, although the sun and mirror have covered it now.

I should probably have made it clearer. Look at the wording of the Huffington Post's URL.

/www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/08/06/mankini-charity-walk-police-escort-paedophiles_n_3713613.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

Mankini charity walk police escort paedophiles.

It's subtle.

[Goat]

Yes, I may not want to see somebody in a mankini....

Dunno, Gordon Brown in one raving about saving the world before being led off by men in white coats....

[wherebee]

I so hope Peter Tatchell starts gay pride demo marches in these areas. The guy has balls (see Mugabe actions et al) and I really respect how he stands up for freedom of expression and justice for all.

I can't do it, as a hetro white male I'd be in the nick as soon as I entered Sparkhill...

[Executive Sadman]

I so hope Peter Tatchell starts gay pride demo marches in these areas. The guy has balls (see Mugabe actions et al) and I really respect how he stands up for freedom of expression and justice for all.

I can't do it, as a hetro white male I'd be in the nick as soon as I entered Sparkhill...

Yep, got bloodied in Russia too.

I'd like to think he'd do it here, but I get the feeling he'd rather sell his own grandmother than disrupt the faustian pact that binds todays dysfunctional left together, where coal miners and greenies waltz, homosexuals and muslims tango, and the rentier champagne socialists and their tenants disco, each going their own seperate ways to stew in their mutual hatred for each other.

[Butthead]

Best advice to the British? Get used to it.

But it's not just "get used to it" is it? It's "get used to it and pay for it too".

The reason that muslim communities are expanding at such a rate is due in large part to the generous benefits that are available to anyone coming to this country who ticks the right boxes of "need". Got kids? Got some sort of disability? You are entitled to a far better standard of living than most in your country of origin enjoy.

How many muslim radicals would want to come to the UK if they weren't entitled to handouts and had to rely on charity or go without? How many British people would provide charitable handouts to people who were aggressively attacking British society.

The root of the problem is, as usual, the benefit system.

[okaycuckoo]

But it's not just "get used to it" is it? It's "get used to it and pay for it too".

The reason that muslim communities are expanding at such a rate is due in large part to the generous benefits that are available to anyone coming to this country who ticks the right boxes of "need". Got kids? Got some sort of disability? You are entitled to a far better standard of living than most in your country of origin enjoy.

How many muslim radicals would want to come to the UK if they weren't entitled to handouts and had to rely on charity or go without? How many British people would provide charitable handouts to people who were aggressively attacking British society.

The root of the problem is, as usual, the benefit system.

That's only half the story.

There's an enormous black market in London + a lot of Pakistan middle-class wealth is tied up in London housing.

Have to say walking down a muslim high street in London is an eye-opening experience - I had the pleasure of a guided tour a few years ago. I imagine Bradford is even busier.

On the whole I say anything goes once you're past the border - veils, burkhas etc, all within your rights. Sharia obviously has to remain subject to domestic law. The right to march reminds me of Norn Iron.

What if taxation of non-dom investment in London bricks'n mortar was pursued? Whatever the moral outrage over cultural practices, the money trail is far more interesting.

[Darkman]

But it's not just "get used to it" is it? It's "get used to it and pay for it too".

The reason that muslim communities are expanding at such a rate is due in large part to the generous benefits that are available to anyone coming to this country who ticks the right boxes of "need". Got kids? Got some sort of disability? You are entitled to a far better standard of living than most in your country of origin enjoy.

How many muslim radicals would want to come to the UK if they weren't entitled to handouts and had to rely on charity or go without? How many British people would provide charitable handouts to people who were aggressively attacking British society.

The root of the problem is, as usual, the benefit system.

You're right, I should correct that line. It should actually read Get used to it and get used to paying for it. That's a lot more accurate.

How many British people would provide charitable handouts to people who were aggressively attacking British society? Well evidently all of them are doing so right now. Maybe not by choice, but they definitely are.

And it's not going to change. You're going to change, and Britain is going to change. The demographics will continue to transform into something very different to what we know today. It's a certainty now. And who knows, if the rate of change continues at it's current speed, in 100 years time maybe the country will be a Muslim majority, voting in Muslim laws and leaders.

Stranger things have happened in world history.

What puzzles me is the ludicrous idea that growing the population through immigration will solve the issue of an aging population. It has to be a short term and doomed plan. What happens when all the people shipped in get old themselves? What do you do, ship in another billion?

Oh that's right, other cultures have more children and therefore will have young to look after the old. But of course, they may not share your religious or democratic views

[dangermaus]

Britain will never be a muslim majority, Enoch Powell was correct, when he spoke of blood he wasn't referring to native blood.

Northern European Protestants and Catholics have been killing each other for decades over comparatively minor differences, if you think they will take the forced colonisation of the UK by Muslims lying down you must be mad.

Islamo-cism (it's not racism...it's a belief not a race) is becoming more mainstream and socially acceptable.

In my town it's already acceptable for 2 taxi firms to make a point of telling people they do not hire muslims, 10 years ago that would never have happened.

I think interesting times are ahead

[SNACR]

+1

An interesting scenario would be a Gay Pride March through the same area during Ramadan.

I find minority group Top Trumps one of the most exciting new sports to emerge in the 21st century Britain paradise of diversity.

[Goat]

Britain will never be a muslim majority, Enoch Powell was correct, when he spoke of blood he wasn't referring to native blood.

The authorities appear to disagree with you.

[Darkman]

The authorities appear to disagree with you.

Very very much so.

[dangermaus]

Very very much so.

The authorities are clueless.

Interesting times are ahead.

[Jie Bie]

Less than 5% of the UK population identify themselves as Muslim.

Hardly a viable platform for the introduction of nationwide Sharia Law.

[Executive Sadman]

Please order these for me:

child

hard working (family)

single parent

unemployed

elderly

infirm

black

muslim/pakistani/bangladeshi

jew

hindu/indian

female

sick

disabled

banker

nurse

male

ordinary, white, working class male

assume that combinations are additive and therefore don't need to be computed

pleease feel free to add to list

Bankers at the top surely, even the religionists dont get a license to counterfeit money!

[ubuntu]

Yep, got bloodied in Russia too.

I'd like to think he'd do it here, but I get the feeling he'd rather sell his own grandmother than disrupt the faustian pact that binds todays dysfunctional left together, where coal miners and greenies waltz, homosexuals and muslims tango, and the rentier champagne socialists and their tenants disco, each going their own seperate ways to stew in their mutual hatred for each other.

He's already done it, remember him protesting at a Hizb ut Tahrir (now banned) conference at Wembley way back in 1994.