Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 (edited) Surely we should be scrutinising the owners and editors of newspapers, and their property interests. Surely the owners must have property interests, as must the editors and individual journalists. I assume those property interests may well impact on editorial... Has anybody on here ever looked at this? Might be difficult seeing who the owners are though. As an example, Independent and I paper (ughhhhh) are owned by this ex KGB man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Lebedev (Oh, it's Mandy again... http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/23/comment-evening-standard) Edited April 28, 2011 by gruffydd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Surely we should be scrutinising the owners and editors of newspapers, and their property interests. Surely the owners must have property interests, as must the editors and individual journalists. I assume those property interests may well impact on editorial... Has anybody on here ever looked at this? Might be difficult seeing who the owners are though. As an example, Independent and I paper (ughhhhh) are owned by this ex KGB man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Lebedev (Oh, it's Mandy again... http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/23/comment-evening-standard) ...many rely on property advertising for large segment of advertising revenue the bloodstream of any newspaper .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 (edited) ...many rely on property advertising for large segment of advertising revenue the bloodstream of any newspaper .... So personal, private, interests don't count? Edited April 28, 2011 by gruffydd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie The Tramp Returns Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Who Owns And Edits Our Newspapers Not one true old Newspaper Owner or Editor. The days of real Newspapers ended when Rupert Murdoch took over the Sun, NoW, and The Times and was given a licence to destroy the old values of caring for your loyal and long serving Employees. Goodbye to the old, sincere and knew where you stood with the old Barons and their political leanings, how I loved Lord Beaverbrook my original boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvenal Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/richlist/person/0,,46973,00.html Richard Desmond (The Express) has £500m in 'property and investment' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEO72 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/richlist/person/0,,46973,00.html Richard Desmond (The Express) has £500m in 'property and investment' A fact its always worth mentioning in the comments sections of their countless ramping articles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 That's the Independent and Express boycotted then. Doesn't seem right to buy them anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gnome Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Not one true old Newspaper Owner or Editor. The days of real Newspapers ended when Rupert Murdoch took over the Sun, NoW, and The Times and was given a licence to destroy the old values of caring for your loyal and long serving Employees. Goodbye to the old, sincere and knew where you stood with the old Barons and their political leanings, how I loved Lord Beaverbrook my original boss. Shameless quisling, glad you got shafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milton Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) The parent group of the Daily Mail DMGT [Daily Mail and General Trust] have serious vested interests in property. The Daily Mail General Trust Companies include: Primelocation.com [bought by the Mail in 2005 for £48million] Findaproperty.com Digitalpropertygroup.com Villarenters.com....... Major VI's http://dbpedia.org/p...d_General_Trust ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They are all up to their necks in land one way or another. They all ave their little fiefdoms to protect. By stealing from the proles. One may as well ask why clause 13 (ii) of the Editors' Code [which all journalists have to abide by] does not include property as well as shares and securities? http://www.editorscode.org.uk/... Clause 13ii is framed to ensure that compliance with the Code would reflect compliance with the requirements of the Financial Services Act. The object, of course, is to prevent the ramping of shares for personal gain. But how many hundreds of thousands of hours of 'property porn' have we seen on television over the last decade, as house prices have been purposefully manipulated to rise by nearly 300%? And how many of the hundreds upon hundreds of BBC executives, each paid, six figure salaries, own second properties which they rent out? Surely that is a significant self interest? For that matter, how many journalists, who report for the Daily's, ramping house prices for a decade have huge mortgages, and BTL properties? How much of their advertising budgets were paid by property related companies during the 'boom' years? How many 'mortgaged' people who voluntarily moderate the comments on certain newspapers, like The Evening Standard, disallow bearish comments? Loads. This stinking hypocrisy is everywhere. Look at the house of commons. In 2009 When the Telegraph first broke the expenses scandal. Gordon Brown and LABOUR forced a three line whip, to try to exempt MP's second home expenses from the Freedom Of Information act. From being made public. Sir Ian Kennedy, chairman of the new Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (Ipsa) ruled that Ministers should repay profits on their second homes. However, that only applies to gainsFROM November 2009! So profits from massive House Price Increases UP TO November 2009, were locked in. HPI was all cream for our elected officials. [The BBC reported this as 'Ministers pay back money for Second Homes!'] [The BBC forgot to mention that profits from second homes needed to be backdated to 1997, or the beginning of an MP's tenure.] The truth is that there was never any political will to enable the average person earning average wage to be able to afford an average house in a rising unregulated market, under a secret expenses system, where MP's were all flipping houses, making hundreds of thousands in personal profits. Not one MP represented the average wage earner during the boom. It is not just that they used our money to profit, and paid no tax on the gains, it is also that it created a dangerous conflict of interest that meant that voting for policies which fed the house price bubble, for so many years, such as keeping IR too low for too long, CGT etc, also generated personal profits for them, in secret. In any other profession this would be a criminal offence. It is market manipulation. Far worse than insider trading. And all that is just the tip of the iceberg. Your average taxpayer could not get away with something a fraction as corrupt. UK is a plutocracy. With a feudalistic class system which extends back to prehistory, when one mesolithic caveman got a sharper shinier flint than another caveman. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Edited April 30, 2011 by Dan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie The Tramp Returns Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Shameless quisling, glad you got shafted. With a nice great pay off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmarks Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Surely we should be scrutinising the owners and editors of newspapers, and their property interests. Surely the owners must have property interests, as must the editors and individual journalists. I assume those property interests may well impact on editorial... Has anybody on here ever looked at this? Might be difficult seeing who the owners are though. As an example, Independent and I paper (ughhhhh) are owned by this ex KGB man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Lebedev (Oh, it's Mandy again... http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/23/comment-evening-standard) I asked this question ten years ago before HPC came into being. One way to find out would be via the Land Registry website. Back then it wasn't very good. I don't know if it has been improved enough since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clocker Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 (edited) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/richlist/person/0,,46973,00.html Richard Desmond (The Express) has £500m in 'property and investment' "When you wake up to the fact that your paper is Tory Just remember, there are two sides to every story" Billy Bragg Edited May 1, 2011 by Clocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinzano Bianco Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 "When you wake up to the fact that your paper is Tory Just remember, there are two sides to every story" Billy Bragg Only one side if it is a Labour paper though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blod Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Only one side if it is a Labour paper though. Or a story running on the beeb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
right_freds_dead Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 corruption rules almost every aspect of the media, banking and politics. we have never had it so BAD. even this site, which started out exciting has become a terrible bore due to the complete denial of any sensible policy. this site will have a few moaners in the end. i am beginning its a waste of time even posting here. in 05 when i joined we were pressing for common sense. now were too far gone. there is no repair available. its becoming every man for himself. and writing about it is a waste of time. and boring. theres about 15 people on here. what IS the point ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Only one side if it is a Labour paper though. ...yeah...the PRAVDA specials..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Bart' Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 (Oh, it's Mandy again... http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/23/comment-evening-standard) And even Conrad Black's acquisition of the Daily Telegraph (decent proprietor though he turned out to be) Those Bilderberg guys do stick together don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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