The Election Debate

[Executive Sadman]

Pensions to be linked with wages. Lucky Pensioners...

.........................................1999.......2009......Increase

Average salary............. £18,396 £20,900 13.60% ONS

Weekly state pension £66.75 £95.25 42.70% The Pensions Advisory Service

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/historic-inflation-calculator

[D.C.]

With a £170 billion a year going onto the debt and 11 million baby boomers due to retire over the next 10-15 years there is zero chance pensioners are getting more money.

[Cogs]

Yes, too much 'sincere' stares down the camera lens and, yes, appears lacking in personality and substance. Lightweight.

Problem is, its infecting their whole campaign. Portillo pointed the other night that their campaign is so confused he hasn't yet come up with a single 'doorstep argument' that his supporters can use and he has a negative poster campaign (grinning Gordon Brown) that doesn't match his positive "Big Society" campaign (itself already forgotten now as they've moved on to "vote tory or the pound gets it"). And then of course we had him pulling his election broadcast at the last moment and replacing it with what amounted to a reply to Clegg. Not exactly Churchill style leadership is it. I feel sorry for politicians sometimes when people claim they'll just say anything to get elected but I think with Cameron its looking more and more justified. What does he stand for really?

Edited April 22, 2010 by Cogs

[deflation]

Pensions aren't £59 per week are they?

Aren't they £90-odd?

Yes. It'll be because she hasn't enough years of NI contributions paid. That wouldn't change at all, but the required years is now down to 30 from 44 (39 for women).

There's a minimum income stream to claim anyway. Problem is, lot's of old folk don't claim it.

Edited April 22, 2010 by deflation

[Executive Sadman]

Oh goody, Gordon championing paying the Winter fuel payments going to Alan Sugar and retirees living in Spain.

Deficit. What that? What deficit?

[Jason]

Pensions aren't £59 per week are they?

Aren't they £90-odd?

I think it was the pension that woman was getting, as she didn't work while bringing up her 5 kids. Hence not full NI qualifying years.

[Guest_ringledman_*]

Cameron is nailing it.

[angrypirate]

Oh goody, Gordon championing paying the Winter fuel payments going to Alan Sugar and retirees living in Spain.

Deficit. What that? What deficit?

Angry Dave laying into Brown tho. Fantastic to see

[Executive Sadman]

Im pretty sure most of us could out debate any of them.

But id prefer to see Peter Schiff or someone rip Gordon apart live on TV.

[deflation]

Angry Dave laying into Brown tho. Fantastic to see

At last, some f*****g passion.

[Stars]

Another bung to landowners - hurrah

[Guest absolutezero]

Cameron is nailing it.

Only thing he's "nailing" is any chance he had of winning the election.

[Woot]

Good dig by Clegg there at the 'jobs for life' in safe seats. Plays up to anger and jealousy in the electorate.

Brown keeps trying to got off the topic of the question. He's starting to get confident, but it's making him look bullying again I reckon.

He keeps on saying "I think "name here" is really asking..." - again, how completely arrogant: this is what I loathe about the man - his assumption that he knows best; it was demonstrated in his breach of promise re a referendum and it is demonstrated every time he rephrases somebody else's question - as though he knows better than they do what they are asking! Utterly repugnant arrogant self-delusion.

(He really does make me bloody angry )

[shindigger]

Getting mighty ******ed off with biscuit muncher Boulton continually cutting Clegg off in his stride.

****** off Murdoch. :angry:

[D.C.]

Blimey, the ITV worm liked Clegg on about carer's holidays...

No mention from any of them how they are going to pay for these promises though.

[shindigger]

Im pretty sure most of us could out debate any of them.

But id prefer to see Peter Schiff or someone rip Gordon apart live on TV.

Maybe next week.

Powder being kept dry?

I bloody hope so.

[Guest_ringledman_*]

Only thing he's "nailing" is any chance he had of winning the election.

Prediction - Cameron will be seen tomorrow to have won this one.

Clegg is shaky and weak on policy today, also lacking the passion of last week. I even put Brown ahead of Clegg on this one.

[angrypirate]

Only thing he's "nailing" is any chance he had of winning the election.

Hes just shown Brown to be a lying ******* trying any dirty trick to try and win the election. I think that was a big moneysavingexpert style thumbs up for Cameron and a big MSE style thumbs down for Brown

[The Masked Tulip]

Blimey, the ITV worm liked Clegg on about carer's holidays...

No mention from any of them how they are going to pay for these promises though.

ITV worm?

[Guest theboltonfury]

Only thing he's "nailing" is any chance he had of winning the election.

Your pension is hoping your right.

I am not a Tory but Cameron is doing well today. Brown is the usual load of embarrassing rot.

[D.C.]

ITV worm?

Live worm thing on the ITV coverage.

http://www.itv.com/electiondebate/

[Ologhai Jones]

ITV worm?

Yay for the ITV worm!

[mentholist]

Gordon Brown is attempting to portray himself as a global saviour. What an idiot.

We have the biggest debt in our history and no plan to deal with it. Cameron should be able to batter him, but he can't. He's too bloody lightweight.

[Executive Sadman]

Brown certainly seems stark raving mad tonight. he is passionate though.

Wonder if the markets agree Camoron is the biggest risk to the economy. Or snot gobbler.

[57percent]

Cameron much better than last week.

Clegg a bit off from last week, but holding his own.

Brown's done much better than I expected both weeks, but still losing. The others are still

letting him get away with lies.