copydude Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Excellent No, bogbrush comment was in very poor taste. There is no similarity between this event and fake moon landings, grassy knolls, elvis sightings or whatever. People are laying down their lives here to resolve a very real, life-threatening situation. Quote
interestrateripoff Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12779510 In Japanese disaster films they like heroes who sacrifice everything for the greater good - stoic, determined, refusing to back down in the face of adversity or even certain death.These are the qualities the country admires. Now the newspapers here have a new band of heroes to lionise - the workers, emergency services personnel and the scientists battling to save the Fukushima nuclear plant, their fellow citizens and themselves. We know little about them, except for the few whose relatives have spoken to the Japanese media. One woman told the papers her father, who had worked for an electric company for 40 years, had volunteered to help. He was due to retire in September. "The future of the nuclear plant depends on how we resolve this crisis," he was reported to have told his daughter. "I feel it's my mission to help." The small group of workers who stayed at the site as the conditions worsened were dubbed "The Fukushima 50" - although now it is thought there are maybe twice that many working there. I did read it was 150 rotating in 50 person shifts. Very brave people, although I bet none of them are top executives. I would hate being in a similar position knowing if you don't work millions could be affected, and in the process of working you could shorten your own life dramatically especially knowing there is a risk of explosion and potentially sudden exposure to lethal amounts of radiation. The stress these people must be under has to be huge. I salute their bravery and hope that fortune really does favour the brave, if any people deserve luck right now it's these workers. Quote
chronyx Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) No, bogbrush comment was in very poor taste. There is no similarity between this event and fake moon landings, grassy knolls, elvis sightings or whatever. People are laying down their lives here to resolve a very real, life-threatening situation. Yeah, no one is risking anything posting crap on an Internet forum, wild speculations etc. I think the point of his post was mis-information, not that this event was in anyway humourous etc. Actually why I am explaining myself to you, do one Mrs Whitehouse. Edited March 17, 2011 by chronyx Quote
Jack's Creation Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Yeah, no one is risking anything posting crap on an Internet forum, wild speculations etc. I think the point of his post was mis-information, not that this event was in anyway humourous etc. Actually why I am explaining myself to you, do one Mrs Whitehouse. Ha! post of the year! Quote
Riedquat Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12779510 I did read it was 150 rotating in 50 person shifts. Very brave people, although I bet none of them are top executives. I would hate being in a similar position knowing if you don't work millions could be affected, and in the process of working you could shorten your own life dramatically especially knowing there is a risk of explosion and potentially sudden exposure to lethal amounts of radiation. The stress these people must be under has to be huge. I salute their bravery and hope that fortune really does favour the brave, if any people deserve luck right now it's these workers. +1, and I'm sure that everyone who's posted on this thread will agree. There probably aren't any senior executives nearby but that's fine. It's better that people capable of doing something useful are on the scene. Quote
Sledgehead Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 You can bill me You can't make that kind of decision. You're just a grunt! No offense. Quote
Saving For a Space Ship Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12779510 I did read it was 150 rotating in 50 person shifts. Very brave people, although I bet none of them are top executives. I would hate being in a similar position knowing if you don't work millions could be affected, and in the process of working you could shorten your own life dramatically especially knowing there is a risk of explosion and potentially sudden exposure to lethal amounts of radiation. The stress these people must be under has to be huge. I salute their bravery and hope that fortune really does favour the brave, if any people deserve luck right now it's these workers. It's sounding increasingly like 'The Water Margin' both in title and in respect of the 'nine dozen heroes' Quote
SHERWICK Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 I don't think I could ever do something like they're doing, unless it was to help save my nearest and dearest... Quote
mightytharg Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 No, bogbrush comment was in very poor taste. There is no similarity between this event and fake moon landings, grassy knolls, elvis sightings or whatever. People are laying down their lives here to resolve a very real, life-threatening situation. Didn''t Kennedy, Oswald, and a few of the people who could have revealed that the moon landings were fake all get murdered? Maybe Elvis too? Today's wimpy Japs hardly compare in the whole laying down their lives thing. Not like the old days. Quote
Guillotine Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 People are laying down their lives here to resolve a very real, life-threatening situation. I doubt the posters at HPC have ever been so flattered, oh hang on you mean the brave chaps at Fukushima don't you? Quote
bogbrush Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Prof Geraldine Thomas of something called the Chernobyl Tissue Bank just said on Newsnight she'd not be bothered about staying in Japan right now; "if I had family in Japan I'd stay put". Even said the Chernobyl aftermath was exaggerated at the time. I've never heard of the "Tissue bank". I guess they must be a subsidiary of Goldman Sachs or something and she's clearly a VI nuclear shill, it's been completely proven on HPC that this is Armageddon on wheels. Quote
billybong Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 recent helicopter flyby of the rector 4 i suppose we have to remember that the spent fuel pool is at the top of the building and getting water up there must be hard. From that photo there could be tonnes of concrete and other debris fouling up the spent fuel rods pool(s). That's if the pool(s) still exists in any realistic form. Reactor 4 building looks far worse than in the photo issued earlier showing one hole in a wall so either the previous photo didn't give the full picture, there's been more damage since (possibly from water spraying?) or wall panels are being removed intentionally - or maybe a combination of those reasons. Quote
OnlyMe Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) Prof Geraldine Thomas of something called the Chernobyl Tissue Bank just said on Newsnight she'd not be bothered about staying in Japan right now; "if I had family in Japan I'd stay put". Even said the Chernobyl aftermath was exaggerated at the time. Us military evacuating all military forces family who wish to go. Fukushima webcam....... need to hit referesh - frame at a time update. http://cs2.town.yanaizu.fukushima.jp/-wvhttp-01-/GetOneShot?REQUEST_ID Edited March 17, 2011 by OnlyMe Quote
copydude Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Today's wimpy Japs hardly compare in the whole laying down their lives thing. Not like the old days. Just that you should think that suggests that you may have a point. I unreservedly take back any implied criticism of bogbrush, The Fukushima workers obviously have a sh1t PR agency. Who handled the Chilean Miners? They were a huge hit. We need to get them on board. Quote
_w_ Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Us military evacuating all military forces family who wish to go. Fukushima webcam....... need to hit referesh - frame at a time update. http://cs2.town.yana...Shot?REQUEST_ID That's a lot of steam! Thanks for the link. Quote
Doctor Gloom Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Yes. We now all agree it is the doom scenario. Quite enough nuclear physics, thanks. Question remains, who is going to get sued? There's a few bob to be made here. Corporate negligence. Untold damages. Some Japanese Gov guy just re-licensed the Fukushima plant only in Feb - it was scheduled for decomission. Oh if he had only known . . . bet he'd never heard of 'spent fuel pools' . . . The Japanese Gov guy was probably unaware that a 9.0 magnitute earthquake was due to strike. So many experts AFTER it happens! I blame the people who decided it was right and proper to build it on the east coast facing a huge tectonic fault line and facing a vast expanse of water. I don't think there is anyone to sue for this. Quote
ImA20SomethingGetMeOutOfHere Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Apparently the first cases of potassium iodide poisoning are now appearing in the States. Quote
bogbrush Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Just that you should think that suggests that you may have a point. I unreservedly take back any implied criticism of bogbrush, The Fukushima workers obviously have a sh1t PR agency. Who handled the Chilean Miners? They were a huge hit. We need to get them on board. No need to take anything back, it should have been clear that my post was directed most certainly not at the Japanese workers. No, the intention of my post concerned people much closer to home. Quote
StainlessSteelCat Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 Apparently the first cases of potassium iodide poisoning are now appearing in the States. I know I shouldn't but Quote
stormymonday_2011 Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 The Union of Concerned Scientists have compiled an estimate of the amount of nuclear material that is in the reactor cores and the spent fuel rod pools at Fukushima http://allthingsnuclear.org/ Quote
billybong Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) Us military evacuating all military forces family who wish to go. Fukushima webcam....... need to hit referesh - frame at a time update. http://cs2.town.yanaizu.fukushima.jp/-wvhttp-01-/GetOneShot?REQUEST_ID Thanks. That seems to be maybe 20 to 30+++ times more volume of steam (assuming it's steam) than previously shown during the crisis. A huge increase. When the helicopters were shown dropping water the steam visible from any of the reactor buildings was barely a trickle. edit: Make that about 100 times more volume of steam. edit: Make that about 200+ times more volume of steam. The volume gets bigger by the minute. Edited March 18, 2011 by billybong Quote
_w_ Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 Apparently the first cases of potassium iodide poisoning are now appearing in the States. Quote
bogbrush Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 I keep reading that Cable has reached the reactor. That Cameron, I guess the message is just don't f*ck with him. Quote
happy_renting Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 Prof Geraldine Thomas of something called the Chernobyl Tissue Bank just said on Newsnight she'd not be bothered about staying in Japan right now; "if I had family in Japan I'd stay put". Even said the Chernobyl aftermath was exaggerated at the time. I've never heard of the "Tissue bank". I guess they must be a subsidiary of Goldman Sachs or something and she's clearly a VI nuclear shill, it's been completely proven on HPC that this is Armageddon on wheels. They have ATMs that dispense sheets of Kleenex. Quote
Tankus Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) dont the fish get a say ? no radiation ...without representation Edited March 18, 2011 by Tankus Quote
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