A Place In The Sun

[spoon]

on CH4 now....pure porn !

Edited October 12, 2006 by spoon

[laurejon]

Its Brilliant, buy house for 100k today, and you will return 350k in five years.

Next week how to nail Jelly to the Ceiling, and how Saddam Hussein had Weapons of Mass Destruction hidden in Ice Cream Vans, and hidden under Scientists Beds.

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Edited October 12, 2006 by laurejon

[spoon]

telly like this just reinforces my suspicion we're in the midst of one hell of a bubble.

hang on ..is this a repeat. she just said 'buy here and you might just make it in time to see Beckham lift the 2006 world cup' .

WTF?

Edited October 12, 2006 by spoon

[BubblesBurst]

on CH4 now....pure porn !

Amanda's Lambs to the slaughter

This show is over a year old anyway!

She does like a good pie does our Amanda.

[twatmangle]

on CH4 now....pure porn !

Don't be so negative......

I bought a foreign home this week. I think it makes sense in some circumstances.

It beats putting money in my saving's account at 4.8% less tax.

Pros.

I can buy with cash. No mortgage, no debt. This makes me fairly immune to interest rate rises.

I get a guaranteed rental income, paid in Euros.

I might benefit from HPI if it happens overseas.

If there's a crash, then I can weather it as I have no mortgage. I continue to get the rent regardless of the 'value' of the property.

It's inflation proof. If inflation/wages go up, I can charge the appropriate amount to match.

If there is significant HPI, I can cash it in without being forced to move home

Cons

I don't think there are many.

I'm not trying to be a troll, but don't knock it until you've tried it!!

Mr.Mangle

[Duplex]

According to Miss Lamb Ireland joined the EU in 1997? (26 years out on that figure) and house prices will triple in the next ten years (even more bizarre, unless she has some hot info on a period of hyper inflation in the Euro area) .

Housing vacancy rate is 15% (UK 3.5%)

Housing output 100,000 pa population 4.3 Million (UK 170,000 population 63 million)

How can anyone make unfounded, unproven and inaccurate statements like these on TV if she had spoken about shares in the same way she'd be up before the beak.

[spoon]

in any investment timing is everything and here we have a repeat of a program a year on quoting all kinds of facts and figures - a tacit admission then that nothing's really changed in our places in the sun in 12mnths? either that or there's a sound case to sue CH4.

Edited October 12, 2006 by spoon

[Garry AKA Pod]

Another rather porcine presenter. Lovely Puppies though.

Edited October 12, 2006 by Jimothy

[Duplex]

Ireland is the country with the highest home-ownership in the EU at 83%. House prices here have been fuelled enormously by EU membership in 1997 and have almost quadrupled in eight years. But this surging demand has not abated and, whilst you’ll have to spend more to get your property in the first place (average prices are around £170,000), you could still more than treble your money in 10 years.

222% return

Channel 4 Homes

I'm not sure if I should say anything as the Irish market is tanking at the moment and what harm would it be if we could off load some of our charming wee cottages to unsuspecting Brits.

[laurejon]

Lets all dream and fight for a 2 bed apartment in Poland, for 100k you could earn 500k in a decade.

Poland with the highest unemployment in the world, and corruption on a grand scale provided you have a AK-47 will deliver you an astounding 500% in a decade.

If you dont fancy Poland, then try Romania!!! Remember the Romanian Ophans with HIV, well forget that. Romania with a single motorway you can expect to make 900% in a year. If you are a plasterer then all the better as you can plaster out the bullet holes and make a fortune overnight.

[twatmangle]

Lets all dream and fight for a 2 bed apartment in Poland, for 100k you could earn 500k in a decade.

Poland with the highest unemployment in the world, and corruption on a grand scale provided you have a AK-47 will deliver you an astounding 500% in a decade.

If you dont fancy Poland, then try Romania!!! Remember the Romanian Ophans with HIV, well forget that. Romania with a single motorway you can expect to make 900% in a year. If you are a plasterer then all the better as you can plaster out the bullet holes and make a fortune overnight.

Now you're just being silly.

If you have a point to make, make it. Just please don't make stuff up.

Mr.Mangle

[laurejon]

Course I am, just being silly.

A secretly filmed footage aired by Polish TV prompted accusations of "political corruption" on the part of the ruling party and calls for the government to step down and the parliament to be dissolved.

The scandal burst out when Polish TV channel, TVN, aired footage secretly filmed by opposition MP Renata Beger. The footage presents Adam Lipiński, a government minister and top aide of Prime Minister Jarosław Kaczyński offering Beger a government post, legal and financial aid in return for defecting from her party and joining the ruling coalition.

The conversation between the two politicians comes amidst a larger-scale effort on the part of the ruling Prawo i Sprawiedliwość ("Law and Justice") party to woo members of former coalition partner Samoobrona to leave their party and support the governing coalition. The efforts follow the deposing of Samoobrona's leader Andrzej Lepper from his position as deputy prime minister, after he refused to support the budget proposal accepted by the Council of Ministers.

The broadcast of the footage has led to calls for the immediate dismissal of the government and for new elections to be held. Prawo i Sprawiedliwość has called the revealed conversation "normal practice", and ruled out the possibility of the government stepping down. The scandal, however, severely complicates the party's attempt to rebuild parliamentary majority and undermines their public support, as its popularity was built on declarations of fighting corruption in politics.

The day after the footage was aired, protesters started gathering before the buildings of the parliament, and some pitching tents to spend the night there.

Making it all up me, its all a conspiricy.

In the last years of the Ceausescu regime, Romania became the country with the highest number of children infected with HIV/AIDS in Europe. Of the 10,440 cases by the end of 2003, over 7,500 were children and youth. Most of them were infected with contaminated blood in the 1986-1991 period. There is also a growing number of HIV/AIDS positive among youth and adult high-risk groups, such as intravenous drug users, commercial sex workers, and trafficked women. Preventive care is still insufficient but will receive major support from the Global Fund. By the end of 2002, there were some 10,000 people living with HIV/AIDS, 8,000 of whom were under active surveillance.

UNICEF assisted in the introduction of health education/life skills education in the school curricula. Over 10,000 schools were using the health material by the end of 2003. Children and young people are learning about, among others, HIV/AIDS transmission. In this way, they will be better informed on how to protect themselves, and also learn that they cannot become infected from an HIV positive colleague just by sharing the same desk. This will hopefully help to build greater understanding for HIV positive children, who are often denied access to normal schools. As many of the children infected with HIV/AIDS are teenagers now, an emphasis is being placed on their sexual education, and on preventing transmission. UNICEF also supports the integration of HIV positive children in family-type homes. With several other organizations, UNICEF has supported Romania’s application to the Accelerated Access to Treatment and Care Programme. As a result, as of 2002, Romania has been paying reduced prices for HIV/AIDS medication, meaning that a greater number of people can benefit from anti-retroviral therapy, from 3,900 in 2000 to 5,200 in 2003.

[undersupply]

Funniest programme ever

Romania no 1 but Bulgaria not even in the top 20.

Is Finland a place in the sun?

She loved showing us those two boiled eggs in a hanky but, drooool

[azogar]

Funniest programme ever

Romania no 1 but Bulgaria not even in the top 20.

Is Finland a place in the sun?

She loved showing us those two boiled eggs in a hanky but, drooool

I have to admit, as much as I tried to concentrate my mind wandered towards 2 soft pillows..........

[twatmangle]

Course I am, just being silly.

A secretly filmed footage aired by Polish TV prompted ....... 8< - - googled cut and paste snipped- - - >8

In the last years of the Ceausescu regime, Romania became....... 8< - - googled cut and paste snipped again- - - >8

I can't fault these facts.

Firstly we have a political scandal in Poland

Secondly we have 10'000 children infected with HIV through tainted blood supplies during the '80s

This is hardly a reason not to invest in a country, and more importantly it is hardly the guns and bullets scenario you set out for both countries.

I am in the fortunate position of having travelled extensively through these countries and learned enough to make informed choices.

I chose to invest there as a result.

The Romanian economy is the fastest growing in Europe.

I am a part of this.

The only bullet holes I saw in Romania were on the outside of a hotel in the centre of Brasov in 2001. These were resulting form the revolution in '89.

Mr.Mangle

[Pablo-silver or lead?]

I didn't see this first time arround (i guess its a year to eighteen months outa date?)

The credits said the financial analysis was carried out by Price Waterhouse Coopers?

I wonder if there is a disconnect/missinterpretation between PWC data and the conclusions

presented in this program?

Pablo Silver or Lead?

[dave14]

if im not mistaken ive heard she has never bought a place abroad herself.

this programm was pure filth she may as well as said im a whore who sells time shares.

next she will be in Africa selling mud huts what an investment u can make your own

if u like, the next rising market after the north pole. beyond a joke, if it is that easy

well i am speechless, the scotish widow who must have bumped her husband off

to invest in outer mongolia 5000% in 2 minutes if u make a telly programme about it.

[DTMark]

I don't recall where it was, might have been Spain, but one episode of that still amuses me to this day.

The couple involved were happy to take on some work to get the place they wanted in the right location.

After driving out to the middle of nowhere Amanda pointed out how fast the property market was rising, and pointed at what was essentially a pile of rubble not even vaguely resembling anything habitable, and explained how they could add a lot of value.

[Red Baron]

My nephew is an EA in Spain (Almeria). He left the EA Fox & Sons to start this business with his Spanish girlfriend.

They were over in th UK this week and I asked what the market was like in Spain. 'Flat on its back' was the simple answer.

[AteMoose]

didnt see this thread so i started a new one, the about 330% increases in the UK in 10 years, its lunacy, just look at the graph. The maths dont add unless we have some serious inflation 10->20% and a massive hike in IRs....

http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/ind...showtopic=36621

So Lets do the maths, how does 330% increase in houses add up?

average houseprice is currently 176k in 10 years 330% that means average house will be 580k

average salary today of 27k assuming a very good 5% wage inflation thats about 43k

today salary multiple is 6.5

so in 10 years are were looking at an average salary multple of 13.3?

to get to the average 330% rise price quoted on the tv, we would

need to have a 10k increase in property every quarter for 10 years! I have

attached a graph showing how unachieveable this is, property would boom at

the fastest level for the next 10 years solidly.

How big will the average morgage be in 10 years time :

IR at 4%

repayment : 3093.91

IO : 1933.33

IR at 7%

repayment : 147.50

IO : 3383.33

the average take home on the average salary in 2016 of 43k after tax would be about 2.5k?

Assuming the same increases in london the average property will be just under

1 million, thats the AVERAGE property in london in 10 years? I cant even be bothered to

create a london graph, the graph for the UK is stupid enough. if houses rise 40k a year for

the next 10 years, does anyone need to work?

It looks like the makers of the program simply looked at the fastest houseprice rise period

and extrapolated it out over the next 10 years! Are these presenters researchers and other tv

stupid, how can they even entertain this sort of increase?

Edited October 13, 2006 by moosetea

[dogbox]

As a keen overseas investor I found this programme pathetic. As an example they fail to mention the all important EXIT ROUTE.

Investing abroad is about a finding the right blend of factors.

The little Englander mentality on this thread is pretty appauling none the less.

May I remind you all that most pundits wrote Ireland off 10 years ago and said joining the Euro was a one way ticket to doom. WRONG AGAIN. Ireland was the poorest country in Western Europe 10 years ago.

Some of you wouldnt know a good investment if it jumped up and todgered you off

Edited October 13, 2006 by dogbox

[azogar]

As a keen overseas investor I found this programme pathetic. As an example they fail to mention the all important EXIT ROUTE.

Investing abroad is about a finding the right blend of factors.

The little Englander mentality on this thread is pretty appauling none the less.

May I remind you all that most pundits wrote Ireland off 10 years ago and said joining the Euro was a one way ticket to doom. WRONG AGAIN. Ireland was the poorest country in Western Europe 10 years ago.

Some of you wouldnt know a good investment if it jumped up and todgered you off

Dogbox - what did you make of the fact that Bulgaria and Turkey didn't even feature?

[Sledgehead]

I asked what the market was like in Spain. 'Flat on its back' was the simple answer.

You sure he wasn't refering to bonk-to-let?

[dogbox]

Dogbox - what did you make of the fact that Bulgaria and Turkey didn't even feature?

Ok the basic premise of the programme holds - up well (ie that investing in foreign property is probably an easy route to some pretty hefty capital growth).

The problem with the programme is its total lack of detail and that its too broad - brush (country a = ok, country b = phenonemal).

I couldnt tell you why Bulgaria and Turkey were'nt in.

The Silver Coast of Portugal was probably a good call as was Poland.

Also they fail to look at TOTAL RETURN. For example an appartment in Berlin central will rent 12 months of the year where as one in Portugal may only get 4 - 6 months holiday rentals.

My nephew is an EA in Spain (Almeria). He left the EA Fox & Sons to start this business with his Spanish girlfriend.

They were over in th UK this week and I asked what the market was like in Spain. 'Flat on its back' was the simple answer.

Many British Spain based EA's have redirected efforts onto Morocco which is only 7km away. They all tell me business has never been better.

[AteMoose]

didnt see this thread so i started a new one, the about 330% increases in the UK in 10 years, its lunacy, just look at the graph. The maths dont add unless we have some serious inflation 10->20% and a massive hike in IRs....

http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/ind...showtopic=36621

So Lets do the maths, how does 330% increase in houses add up?

average houseprice is currently 176k in 10 years 330% that means average house will be 580k

average salary today of 27k assuming a very good 5% wage inflation thats about 43k

today salary multiple is 6.5

so in 10 years are were looking at an average salary multple of 13.3?

to get to the average 330% rise price quoted on the tv, we would

need to have a 10k increase in property every quarter for 10 years! I have

attached a graph showing how unachieveable this is, property would boom at

the fastest level for the next 10 years solidly.

How big will the average morgage be in 10 years time :

IR at 4%

repayment : 3093.91

IO : 1933.33

IR at 7%

repayment : 147.50

IO : 3383.33

the average take home on the average salary in 2016 of 43k after tax would be about 2.5k?

Assuming the same increases in london the average property will be just under

1 million, thats the AVERAGE property in london in 10 years? I cant even be bothered to

create a london graph, the graph for the UK is stupid enough. if houses rise 40k a year for

the next 10 years, does anyone need to work?

It looks like the makers of the program simply looked at the fastest houseprice rise period

and extrapolated it out over the next 10 years! Are these presenters researchers and other tv

stupid, how can they even entertain this sort of increase?

no comment at all?